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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-15-2002 04:05 PM
   
Apparently the debunkers are getting more desperate in their attempts to discredit the Chemtrail issue. Of course this won't have the desired effect. Actually the reverse is true, the debunker responsible for this hoax is doing nothing but showing that they are unable to have their arguments against Chemtrails stand on their own. What has happened is this. A website was recently submitted to the Top Chemtrail Websites list. This website, which never actually made it on to the list, is a fake Chemtrail website, designed to cast Chemtrailers in a negative light. To listen to the embittered debunkers talk, this wouldn't be needed, but talk is cheap, and these unscrupulous actions show quite the opposite. What is this fake Chemtrail website? It is called "AMAROLI". It describes a fictional account of a person who takes a journey to see a holy man in India to find a cure for their purported Chemtrail-illness, there they are instucted to drink urine until their symptoms disappear. They have also collected the most grotesque images of various medical conditions, which they knowingly falsely attribute to Chemtrails. It is amazing the amount of time and effort the scatologically-fixated author of this website invested in creating this hoax. Of course, they didn't waste any money, since it is a free website. I am not certain to who is the author of this hoax, but based on the fact that Jay Reynolds recently attempted to add his debunking site to the Top Chemtrail Websites list, and the fact that the underlying HTML construction is quite similar to that used by Jay Reynolds on his own site, and the additional fact that there are signs of manual tampering with the headers to disguise it's origin, you can certainly guess what my guess would be, but of course I don't know for sure. What I do know is that we must be aware that there are individuals who are working tirelessly in a vain attempt to discredit the issue and malign those who speak out against Chemtrails. For those who want to see the latest Chemtrail debunker hoax, don't get too "pissed off" when you visit "AMAROLI"... http://www.stormpages.com/amaroliman/
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Thermit on 01-15-2002]
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 01-15-2002 05:46 PM
one has to wonder...
does Jay Reynolds practice what he preaches?
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 01-15-2002 06:05 PM
Lulu, I'd say he's been doing it for at least a year...
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A man who has continued the practice for a year becomes the equal of the sun in radiance.
...and possibly for 10 years! quote:
One who has continued the practice for ten years can fly through the air without effort.
I wonder if he leaves a chemtrail or a contrail?
[Edited 2 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 01-15-2002]
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 01-15-2002 06:23 PM
LMAO The Flying Skeleton says it all... ~ a con-trail for sure!
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-16-2002 09:29 AM
Thanks for exposing yet another hoax by the CONtrail "Artists".(I think I'll pass on even looking at it though, just as I ignore the more conventional 'debunker' sites.) They are getting desperate though aren't they? It sounds like the site does show the caliber of some of these freaks.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by defender on 01-16-2002]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 02:17 AM
mark, I can understand, slightly how that site could be construed as an irritant, but hey if the darn things are real why worry about a satirical parody...I thought the urine stuff at the end was very funny...the pic's were amusing too... and the most humorous thing about this topic is how defender admits to not seeing it, won't go there, and then makes (her) usual uninformed observation... hey...hey...my...my... lol... T/S
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Duncan Kunz
Senior Member
582 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 02:33 AM
Urine big trouble if you can't see the humor in that parody. The person who thought it up is a real whiz, and didn't even have to take advantage of leaks from secret government plans. When you compare it to the Don Bradley sprayplane pilot flame board, there's no comparison. I mean, the author of this board's a real pistol!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Duncan Kunz on 01-17-2002]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 03:01 AM
I may be pissing in the wind saying this...but years ago Jay and I were considered to be to pee's in a pod...a virtual golden shower raining down on the chemtrail community, of course after reading that famous book by I.P Freely "urine ok and I'm ok" things really changed to a singular steady stream for me....lol... T/S
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Hoople
Senior Member
Charleston, Ar
167 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 01-17-2002 06:19 AM
Here's a couple of my stable datums: 1)Anything good will always be attacked. 2)An index of how effective a good cause is can be measured in the number of attacks against it. So, from my viewpoint, the more chemtrail debunkers there are equals the more forward impact the chemtrail activists are having. If we happen to note an increased level of debunking it's a good indicator to me. On the other hand, if the debunking incidents begin to drop in number then we had better get busy. Hoople
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djembemon
bum-biddy-bum goes the drum
Atlanta, GA USA
89 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 08:37 AM
Wow.Merely speak about debunkers and Jay Reynolds and -- lo and behold! -- a sudden "flutter of wings" is heard, and then whom should appear in our midst but none other than "theseeker" and "Duncan Kunz". My my. There's NO END to the transparency being exhibited in the efforts at hand. [In fact, if as much "effort" had been placed into the "War against Afghanistan/War on Terrorism/War on Freedom/War for Big Oil", we'd be long gone from that poor, rocky faraway hillside by now...but not only cannot the entirety and formidable might of the US Military 'find' the lone madman Bin Laden, neither can they contain simple ideas nor the expression thereof, such as a "harmless" chemtrail site -- hence the obvious effort directed at discrediting ANY valid content, comment and criticism aimed at the world's rampant Miltary Industrial Complex...]
[Edited 1 times, lastly by djembemon on 01-17-2002]
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 09:49 AM
Back again Sucker.... A low-life 'debunker' rears (her/it's) ugly head, again.  How can I "admit" to seeing it if I haven't "gone there"? Thermits word is good enough for me. It sounds like the scatalogical nature of this site is right up your heterophobic alley? Any endorsement from someone like yourself is more than enough reason to never go there. You are a real moron seeker, but you do add that comedy element to CC, some people here must enjoy?... like having our very own village idiot. Reading your messages and your 'debunker' sites has always been a waste of our time, IMO.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by defender on 01-17-2002]
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 09:49 AM
I don't really consider it an "irritant" seeker. It is kinda funny too. But I also think it is pretty sad. For the author to spend so much time and effort on something they don't believe in is somewhat pitiful, and possibly indicative of an unwell persona.
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Duncan Kunz
Senior Member
582 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 11:15 AM
Your crystal ball's better than mine...I should've seen this coming! Last week all of us (Seeker, Jay, Deb, Col. Dan, Cydoniaquest, Maverick, NSASucks, et. al.) got letters from the Company; we've been laid off. We're to turn in our clearances, breathing apparatus, e-mail account codes, and other classified appurtenances by close of business Friday. However, we are still permitted to lurk and post on any forum, but from now on, it will be on our own. And, of course, since cover hasn't been broken for the three moles on this and CTTUSA, as well as the two additional moles on the carnicom-board, they will still (as near as I know; I'm no longer cleared for this information) be working the disinfo-project. ------------------
Duncan Kunz / duncankunz@home.com
Mesa AZ / 480-891-2525
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Duncan Kunz on 01-17-2002]
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 11:22 AM
Friends, visitors, fellow Chemtrail Activists;You are witnessing, again, the origins of yet another 'debunker'-generated flame war. This time, it's been started by 'The Seeker', (an acknowledged heterophobe and fruitcake aka T/S or Trans-Sexual). Her Modus Operandi includes, in this case; Unprovoked personal attacks against members designed to disrupt conversations sometimes referred to as 'thread-killers'. Followed up by, "I was only joking!" lol , etc.
For more info on CON-trail 'debunkers' tactics, see;
#'s 13 & 17 http://www.thebird.org/host/dcdave/article3/991228.html
[Edited 3 times, lastly by defender on 01-17-2002]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 05:50 PM
mark, bill cooper said something long ago about a info war, basically a foot race amoungst interested factions I gather, now even if someone has time on their hands and would devote time to such a parody, they should not be judged as being of unwell persona...remember there's your's, mine and the truth...death threats,hackers and lawsuits...would equal a unwell persona...to me...."flutter of wings" dj you have all the charm of a rattan deck chair that came off a greek vaseline ship...but seriously I really like you dj...but then again I like jock itch.... hoople, I most certainly disagree with your post regarding the amount of debunkers / chemtrails...at one time there was really only 3 debunking entities...and the topic was alive and vastly more interesting than today's OMG sightings and inferences...the reason more debunker's are showing up is that you can type "toilet" into a search engine and a chemtrail website... defender, no offense against mark's or anyone's word, and I'm sure most inquisitive folks would agree with me on my conclusion that the below statement of yours would certanly classify you as a "sheeple".... How can I "admit" to seeing it if I haven't "gone there"? Thermits word is good enough for me. BTW, T/S stands for "too smooth"...now for a fair and balanced look regarding contrails and chemtrails, (completely free of defender like "blather") visit my site...
T/S http://www.geocities.com/theseeker_0714b/index.html
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 08:17 PM
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even if someone has time on their hands and would devote time to such a parody, they should not be judged as being of unwell persona...
You are totally right. I guess some people will go to great lengths for a cheap laugh, and doesn't necessarily mean they are 'unwell'.
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Hoople
Senior Member
Charleston, Ar
167 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 01-17-2002 11:44 PM
You realize that there's nothing to eat in the house. You decide to go to the store and get the groceries needed. You make your list, go get in your vehicle and take off driving toward the grocery store down the road. While on the way, a pack of howling, barking dogs suddenly appear along side the road and they begin chasing you, growling, yelping and trying to bite the tires of you vehicle. So, do you stop, get out and try to converse with these yelping dogs? Do you grant them a fraction of your valuable time? Well, if you do, there goes the goal of getting the needed groceries and eating. No, what you do is, you acknowledge that there's some yelping dogs out there chasing your vehicle and they're doing a damn good job of being yelping dogs, then drive on to the grocery store thinking about what a good meal you're going to be having when you return home from shopping.Hoople
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-18-2002 12:37 AM
(fictious rendering)maybe the reason all those dogs are chasing you is because you knocked the cherry off, it landed between your legs in a frantic display to put it out you accidentally ran over another animal and you were dragging it from your axel ? in all seriousness...all I can tell you hoople, is if you want exposure for your cause, some of those dogs that may come callin' for info won't be fluffy little poodles...  btw, where's Mott ? T/S
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-18-2002 12:54 PM
While we're on the subject of urine;
Another toothless (gutless) threat from the dark side;
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"in all seriousness...all I can tell you hoople, is if you want exposure for your cause, some of those dogs that may come callin' for info won't be fluffy little poodles..."
It takes a real man to threaten someone via chat-room!?  ... in her (t/s) own words; quote:
"...remember there's your's, mine and the truth...death threats,hackers and lawsuits...would equal a unwell persona...to me...."
I rest my case.
[Edited 4 times, lastly by defender on 01-18-2002]
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-18-2002 01:03 PM
Back!! Back, you mindless 'debunkers'!! All of you!! Back, I say!!! ....back to your dark and slimey web-holes of squalor, ignorance, filth, deceit and denial!!
(he stated in a moment of Shakespearean clarity)
___________________________________________ "... get back to where you once belonged." "... t/s was a man(?) who thought he was a woman, so he(?) gets it when he can."
"DK left his 'home' in Mesa, Arizona, for some CON-trail artist's trash!"
"... get back Loretta!"
[Edited 4 times, lastly by defender on 01-21-2002]
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 02:33 PM
Ahem, back to the story line...It can now be told that Jay Reynolds has admitted to being the author of the "pee pee" site. However, he stands by his urine therapy, noting that he has been drinking his own urine for "just under ten months", and adds that "Chemtrail illness" is no longer a problem since beginning urine therapy. This information has been shared with Jay's blessings. Way to go Jay! 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 04:05 PM
LOL..LOL...thanks for that late breaking story....a hoax within a hoax...gotta like that... that's one drink best served without the head, and no swizzle stick either On the sadder side, chemm 11's Idol, chemtrail promoter wil thomas caught lieing again...
http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5747.topic
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 07:24 PM
On the happier he-man side...if it works for Jay...
"Yes, you are welcome to transmit worldwide
the wisdom I pass on from the thousands of
years of ayurvedic medicine. The example I
quoted comes directly from a well-known
Indian website: http://123goodhealth.com/curesearch/dis_
cure.asp?the_id=21&dis_id=17
I will reciprocate and post in full your
testimonial at my website. There is one other way you can possibly
help. When my website was submitted to the
"Top Chemtrails" listing, it was rejected by
a person called 'Thermite'. Most likely this
is a male who has a 'blockage' regarding
amaroli which causes him to reject it
outright. Some men have a problem dealing with
this subject because they are what we call
"Dependers". Ususally their problem
originates from being bedwetters to an
advanced age. In some cases, this has led
them to a dependence on adult daipers
such as "Depends". These men, actually the victims of
overbearing but indulgent parents, tend to hide their inadequacies behind 'Studly' names online. Names such as 'He-man' or 'Defender'. They
may display their actual feeling of explosive release upon urination by a term such as "Thermonuclear Productions", or 'Thermite'. While these behavioral psychoses formed at
childhood and practiced for a lifetime may be hard to change, this should not preclude my chemtrails website from bringing salvation to others. Any help you can make in this matter will be appreciated. Yours rain or shine,
Amaroliman" ...just maybe he's on to something?
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 01-21-2002 08:16 PM
That's the final straw.T/S, you illiterate in-bred alcoholic, IF you are going to continue to throw blood in the water, please make some reasonable attempt to do so in a manner consistent with the functional literacy level of the average factory chicken. It's Chem11. Not 'chemm11'. And it's Will Thomas. Not 'Wil'. And it's lying, not 'lieing', you mind-blowing idiot. I have very few idols left TS, but the ones I do have manage to find time to learn how to read and write. While you would be better served spending some time cuddled up with a dictionary than parading your ignorance up and down the information superhighway, at least you have the common sense to see this website for what it is; a hoax. A deception. A lie. And when someone engages in an intentional deception like this, one has to run on the assumption (from that point forward) that the person responsible is fabricating at least some portion of whatever they decide to 'tell' you. I'm actually surprised Reynolds would pull a stunt like this, and more surprised that he would admit to it.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 09:34 PM
inbred-alcoholicthat's real mature, captian valerian... ok chemm, let me try it again...shucks I keep forgetin' about the spelling police...as if it matters...I guess me and mark sky should get a tutor ? is that better, damn I think I did it again...oh well...let me quote mr. carnicom...I'll just copy it so it will be spelt correctly... My work has been misquoted by Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas has been requested to correct this statement, and to my knowledge, has never acted upon my request. geeze anyone else have this happen ? nice try at distraction chemm, but through all of your B/S about what a acclaimed guy thomas is, he constantly embellishes others work with his own twisted view of things...you all worry about "parodies" casting a negative light on chemtrails when people in your own camp are your worst enemy... you lose sucker... T/S
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