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  CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING LINKED TO SOLAR RADIATION!

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Topic:   CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING LINKED TO SOLAR RADIATION!

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BOB B
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LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002

posted 01-21-2002 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BOB B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have studied the many reports of chemtrail spraying and found a direct corrlelation betwen heavy spray days and high solar radiation output.........the two aredirectly connected.This new discovery was made after hundreds of chemtrail report dates and times were compared to Solar radiation spikes (available on archives of satelite data from NASA) http://www.maj.com/sun/noaa.html http://spaceweather.com/

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-22-2002 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! Bob, I'd like to see a chart or at least your raw data. Please share your methodologies and data...

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BOB B
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LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002

posted 01-23-2002 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BOB B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thermit, Im working on a chart, but im not sure how to post it, perhaps I could put it in the image data base...thanks

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-23-2002 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bob,

If you have your data in textual form, I might could help you get it into a text table, or if you can create some kind of image version of the chart in jpeg or gif, we can upload it to the database...

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BOB B
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LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002

posted 01-24-2002 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BOB B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thermit, much of the chemtrail report dates can be retrieved on this site and other chemtrail related sites...I simply compared these dates with dates of high solar radiation(available from data archives of NASAs' GOES satellite) ,and wah lah, bingo, it corelates perfectly....look at the mass of reports of spraying which occurs before and during the "bastile day" event of july14 2000, and then look at other noteworthy x-class flare/coronal mass ejection dates,such as occured in November, and again in december.Solving this mystery is near.

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Deb
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Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001

posted 01-25-2002 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one comprehensive control base in one place for "chemtrail" reports is the CTTUSA Calendar. However, each and every report needs to be read because the posters have been known to enter clear sky reports also.
The calendar began in 1999, so why limit your study to 2001?

There are many free websites where you can collect your data on webpages and then link the webpage for all to view.

Go for it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1777000/1777349.stm

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BOB B
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LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002

posted 01-28-2002 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BOB B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The inverse Of what I have said is also true,on days when solar activity is at a minimun,spraying ceases completely here in Texas,but "they" seem to know when a solar upheaval is coming, they spray the day before!Im still busy working on a chart, but iI think it will be like all the other hard data I have accumulated, somehow poo pooed by debunkers such as Duncan kunz

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001

posted 02-01-2002 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you're pretty close with what you've found. The sun has been really active lately, spitting out all kinds of X-class flares, ect. And almost everytime that there seems to be a significant solar event, we get a lot of cloud cover here in Stamford CT. There was supposedly a signifcant event that occurred im guessing at about 957AD but haven't found much evidence to support it yet. Jut a few stories that the sun got real hot, the Picts in Scotland supposedly had to use blue clay on their skin to protect themselves from the sunlight, possible 20 year drought, etc. I also head some stories that some of the trails contained alluminum particultes so i might be possible that they're tying to build some kind of solar shield.

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-01-2002 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear BobB:

As Mr. Thermit will attest, I tend to take the review of data and (non-anecdotal) evidence presented on this board pretty seriously. I am sure he will also concur that, given what I read, I am perfectly willing to comment favorably on such.

I will be glad to do the same to yours. Obviously, as one researcher to another, I will check your sources, just as I am sure you would do to mine. If your research shows a correlation between solar activity and the preponderance of aircraft contrails, I will be the first to admit it. I consider searching for truth more important than staking out a theological position and staying with it.

On the other hand, if I find that -- in my opinion -- the evidence and data do not support your conclusions, I will point such out, with (if possible) an alternate hypothesis that -- again, in my opinion -- better supports the reported data. As someone knowledgeable in the methods of scientific inquiry, I am sure you would do the same; if we do not, how can we advance the knowledge of the subject? In any event, I look forward to seeing your data.

I hardly think my approach to data evaluation constitutes "poo-pooing" you or any of my other colleagues here.

Regards,
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Duncan Kunz
duncankunz@home.com
Mesa AZ
480-891-2525

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-01-2002 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mr. Rockwell:

Your hypothesis of solar activity is an interesting one, and there is extensive dendrochronological evidence to support significant climate changes at around the end of the first millennium of our era. Although I am not sure of the exact date (I am certainly no expert in this field), it wouldn't surprise me to see that your dating is both correct and indicative of major activity.

However, I would disagree with the correlation between the Pictii dyeing themselves with blue clay as a response to an increase in perceived ultraviolet activity. Most antiquarians agree that the source of such coloring was woad (Isatis tinctoria) a hardy biennial plant native to northern Europe and the British Isles that is a source of the blue dye chemical, indigotin, that is also produced by the much stronger and more famous sub-tropical indigo plant. Evidence shows that they had been doing this long before the tenth century AD, as can be seen by the quote from Caesar (De Bello Gallico, Book V):

"Omnes vero se Britanni vitro inficiunt, quod caeruleum efficit colorem."

Which is typically translated as "All the Brittani, . . . indeed, dye themselves with woad, which produces a dark blue coloring."

Although I am not familiar with the photochemical aspects of woad (or much else, for that matter), my guess that dark dyes, by absorbing more ultraviolet than the typical pale skin of the Pictii, would not ameliorate the effects of ultraviolet; indeed, they would probably exacerbate it.

If you're interested in further information about using dendrochronology to perform dating or other archaeometric functions, there's an excellent overview at: http://www.bemidjistate.edu/Science/metro/basic_treering.htm

Regards,

Duncan Kunz
duncankunz@home.com
Mesa AZ
480-891-2525

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001

posted 02-01-2002 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use to work with a researcher who nw deceased, who was an expert in ancient languges and had found some references in New England as well as Europe to some signifcant solar event that occurred circa 957 to 970 AD give or take a year or two. I have also talked to a few native elders over the past few years who do think that another solar event will occur sometime in the near future. And with the data being collected on the sun's recent activity, they might not be wrong.

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001

posted 02-02-2002 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a little bit off topic here, but I have been studying an ancient solar observatory right here in Stamford, CT since 1992. I have pictures of it on my aol homepage. It seems that the ancient people here circa 3000 BC had an extesive interest in the workings of the sun. One picture shows how they were able to monitor the brightness of the sun.

http://hometown.aol.com/mandannyrock/page10.html

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-02-2002 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..and while we're off-topic...

The first picture of you on your home page; is that a D-28 propped up on the rock to your left?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Duncan

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-02-2002 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooops!

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001

posted 02-05-2002 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duncan: Actually it's a Suzuki 12-string acoustic. When I ain't taking pictures of Chemtrails and searching for archaeological anomalies, I play country and rock.

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