posted 02-28-2002 12:31 AM            

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posted 02-28-2002 04:21 AM            

The late night clouds have often been redish here (including tonight), even to the point of making me wonder if the northern lights might be reaching Seattle. I now believe the red to be from chemtrail particles.

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Stormy Weather
The government’s top-secret efforts to control Mother Nature

by Bob Fitrakis and Fritz Chess

With the grounding of virtually all civilian air flights in the immediate aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks, the bizarre speculation about what’s happening in North American air space heightened. Columbus Alive received numerous citizen reports concerning airplanes “spraying” or leaving behind mysterious “chemtrails” or “contrail grids” in the sky. Some feared we were under biochemical attack while others postulated we were being inoculated against anthrax or some other biochemical hazard.

During a flight to Phoenix in early October, a Columbus Alive reporter noted that air traffic was like a nest of hornets over southwest Ohio and Indiana, with jets spraying everywhere. One plane appeared to be a Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker, a refueling plane.

What’s the difference between a “chemtrail” and a normal contrail (or vapor trail), the wisps of condensation you expect to see in a jet’s wake? Typically contrails can only form at temperatures below negative-76 degrees Fahrenheit and at humidity levels of 70 percent or more at high altitudes, according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration meteorologist Thomas Schlattes. Even in most ideal conditions, a jet contrail lasts no more than 30 minutes.

So what are the big, bilious trails that seem to hang indefinitely and slowly feather out and appear to turn into cirrus clouds? Or the contrails seemingly purposely splayed over cities in geometrically precise grid patterns? These are “chemtrails,” and the mystery of their source and purpose has been fueling increasing speculation among government skeptics and on watchdog websites like chemtrailcentral.com, chemtrail.com and carnicom.com.

For the past decade, the official government response to inquiries about the jet contrails appearing across the continent is to attribute the phenomenon to increased commercial air traffic. In 1997, the Christian Science Monitor reported the government’s claim that the jet contrails were actually causing clouds to form.

Yet, in the month after the attack on the World Trade Center, there was very little commercial airline traffic and virtually no private civilian air flights. Still, white jets billowing lingering plumes frequently appeared in the skies over Columbus. An Alive reporter, using high-quality binoculars, could see that some of the white planes had orange markings. In addition to Stratotankers, KC-10 Extenders, another refueling plane, appeared to be used for spraying.

There’s nothing new about these sightings. It may seem to be the stuff of X-Files-style paranoia or grist for conspiracy theorists (and skeptics like Jay Reynolds, writing at goodsky.homestead.com, have made thorough attempts to debunk the theories). But as chemtrail sightings become more common, mainstream scientists (and the mainstream press) are taking note. One scientist familiar with chemtrail experiments even agreed to speak with Columbus Alive (though he refused to allow his name to be used), saying that public disclosure of the experiments is inevitable and maybe imminent.

The Canadian Ottawa Citizen reported a “fervor over chemtrails” on May 16: “What one sees here reflects sightings across North America.” The Citizen noted, “West Quebec Post publisher Fred Ryan reports that his readers have been photographing and comparing them [pictures of chemtrails], and such manifestations are listed on the web.”

“Ground fallout [from the chemtrails] analyzed in the United States contained carcinogens and bacteria. Coincidentally in the past decade, most jet fuel was re-engineered to reduce fire hazards by adding a long-banned pesticide, which was reportedly also found in gel samples from chemtrails. Also found were toxic micro-fibers, much finer than asbestos,” the Citizen wrote.

Chemtrail sightings have been reported in 14 NATO nations. Investigative reporter William Thomas notes that “Croatian chemtrails began the day after that country joined NATO.”

Which begs one simple question: Why?

Explanations range from chemtrails’ use in military communications applications to scientific experiments designed to control the weather, thwarting global warming or relieving droughts.

A scientist working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, who insisted on anonymity, told Columbus Alive that two different secret projects have been conducted. One involved cloud creation experiments to lessen the effect of global warming. The other involved radiation reflection off clouds in conjunction with the military’s High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska.

The scientist claims that the two most common substances being sprayed into chemtrails are aluminum oxide and barium stearate. When you see planes flying back and forth marking parallel lines, X-patterns and grids in a clear sky, that’s aluminum oxide, according to the scientist. The goal is to create an artificial sunscreen to reflect solar radiation back into space to alleviate global warming.

In some cases, barium may be sprayed in a similar manner for the purpose of “high-tech 3-D radar imaging. The barium can be used for a ‘wire’ to shoot an electromagnetic beam through to take 3-D images of the ground far over the horizon,” according to the scientist.

Thomas, writing in the November-December 2001 issue of NEXUS New Times magazine, essentially confirmed this assessment of the activities at the Dayton air base. “The barium spread in exercises conducted out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base acts as an electrolyte, enhancing conductivity of radar and radio waves,” Thomas reported. “Wright-Pat has also long been deeply engaged in HAARP’s electromagnetic warfare program.”

Ken Caldeira, a scientist at Lawrence Livermore Labs and one of the country’s leading experts on weather modification, conducted the original computer modeling for the use of aluminum oxide to fight global warming. He told Columbus Alive, “We originally did this study to show that this program [using massive spraying for weather modification] shouldn’t be done,” due to negative health effects. Caldeira said there are persistent rumors that the Bush administration will announce geo-engineering weather modification projects this spring. Caldeira sees this as “political suicide.”

Patenting Mother Nature

The amount of information available on weather modification and defense applications surrounding the HAARP project proves that chemtrails aren’t so secret after all. Public documents have trickled out of government offices and committees for the last 50 years. And the most valuable cache of data about weather-control efforts is freely available from a very reliable source: the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Throughout the Cold War, both the United States and the Soviet Union actively investigated the military use of weather modification. In 1958, Captain Howard T. Orville served as the White House’s chief advisor on weather modification. He publicly admitted that the military was studying “ways to manipulate the charges of the earth and sky and so affect the weather through electronic beams to ionize and de-ionize the atmosphere.”

Professor Gordon J.F. MacDonald, serving on the President’s Science Advisory Committee in 1966, frequently published papers on the military use of weather modification. In the book Unless Peace Comes, MacDonald titled a chapter “How To Wreck The Environment.” He described the military applications of weather modification including climate change, melting the polar ice caps, techniques for depleting the ozone layer over the enemy, engineering earthquakes, manipulating ocean waves and using the earth’s energy fields for brain wave manipulation.

“The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy,” MacDonald commented.

In the early 1970s, the U.S. Congressional Subcommittee on Oceans and International Environment held investigative hearings on the military’s research into weather and climate modification. The committee’s findings were shocking at the time, including detailed plans for creating tidal waves through the coordinated use of nuclear weapons.

A 1977 United Nations treaty, The Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of the Environmental Modification Techniques, prohibited “the use of techniques that would have widespread, long-lasting or severe effects through deliberate manipulation of natural processes and cause such phenomena as earthquakes, tidal waves and changes in climate and weather patterns.”

The revival of the Cold War during the Reagan years produced a slew of new inventions in the area of weather modification. Presumably to cool off the earth, an August 1982 patent, number 4347284, outlined plans to produce a “White covered sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays” from the sun.

Numerous other patents attempted to perfect “aerial spraying of liquids,” like patent number 4412654, registered in November 1983: “A laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying involved the use of a streamlined body having a slot in the trailing edge thereof to afford a quiescent zone within the [airplane] wing and into which liquid for spraying is introduced.”

Not to be outdone, a patent was filed in July 1986 detailing a “Liquid propane generator for cloud-seeding apparatus.” The abstract reads: “Apparatus is provided for release of liquid propane from the holding chamber of a cloud-seeding rocket.” A new and improved “liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying” was patented in August 1990. “The generator is driven from a power take-off from the engine of the spraying aircraft, a drive assembly includes a device for controlling the speed of the generator relative to speed of the engine,” reads patent number 4948050.

The breakup of the Soviet Union in the 1990s ushered in brave new opportunities in weather modification. The New York Times reported on September 24, 1992, that a Russian company was openly selling electronic equipment to manipulate the weather in a specific area. The Times noted that certain Russian farmers used the weather-control technology to alter the climate for better crop yields.

A little over a month later, the Wall Street Journal reported that Russian company Elate Intelligence Technologies Inc. was selling weather-control equipment using the slogan “Weather made to order.” The Journal quoted Igor Pirogoff as saying that Hurricane Andrew, which did an estimated $17 billion in damage, could have been turned “into a wimpy little squall” by his company.

South Africa’s Water Resource Commission admitted to being involved in the actual testing of “hygroscopic seeding particles from a seeding flare” in an October 1994 patent: “In a confidential technical trial which was conducted on a small isolated cloud formation above the Nelspriut area in the Transvaal province of the Republic of South Africa, two flares were ignited electrically from inside the aircraft…to produce rain.”

Russia’s open selling of former Soviet military weather modification devices often made for interesting news stories. “Malaysia to battle smog with cyclones” is a headline in the November 13, 1997, Wall Street Journal. “The plan calls for the use of new Russian technology to create cyclones—the giant storms also known as typhoons and hurricanes—to cause torrential rains washing the smoke out of the air,” the Journal reported.

By 1997, the great global reinsurance firms—the companies that insure the insurers, like the Swiss Reinsurance Company and Lloyd’s of London—were complaining publicly of global warming and the added risk of climate-related insurance losses. Beating the drum in the U.S. for weather-modification technology to combat global warming was none other than the father of the H-bomb, Edward Teller. His public interest in the issue coincided with the December 1997 Kyoto Conference on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions.

In April this year, the New York Times described Teller as director emeritus of the Livermore Weapons Laboratory and “an ardent advocate of the Reagan administration’s Star Wars anti-missile plan and, more recently, has promoted the idea of manipulating the earth’s atmosphere to counteract global warming.”

The U.S. Air Force admitted to CNN in July that it had broken up a storm over the Atlantic using products made by a company called Dyn-O-Mat. The company’s website, dynomat.com, lists “environmental absorbent products” such as Dyn-O-Drought and Dyn-O-Storm.

As recently as November 13, another patent was filed outlining a “method of modifying weather.” The abstract reads: “The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the cloud’s ability to rain.”

Sunbury resident Dan King remembers a stormy day in July when he was driving on a newly resurfaced section of I-71 and “the rainwater looked like dish soap water on the highway. I thought it was just from the resurfacing,” he said, “but when I got out in the country I saw the same thing. Piles of suds at the side of the road.”

The scientist who works at Wright-Patterson told Alive that barium stearate is basically a soap bonded to a metal and could have produced the soapy rain.

It’s impossible to know which chemicals are being sprayed or for what reason since, according to the government, chemtrails don’t exist. But, increasingly, government skeptics and other watchdogs are demanding to know if chemtrail spraying poses any health risks.

In his NEXUS New Times article, William Thomas wrote, “Chemtrails can cause drought by soaking up all available moisture, and drooping chemical curtains fall through vast colonies of UV-mutated bacteria, viruses and fungi living in the upper atmosphere. Could these malevolent micro-organisms be piggy-backing on the plumes?”

Thomas suggests that the spraying following September 11 has nothing to do with a deliberate biological attack or the inoculation of the American public. Rather, it’s simply an ongoing attempt by humans to fool with Mother Nature.

December 6, 2001

Copyright © 2001 Columbus Alive, Inc. All rights reserved.

posted 02-28-2002 09:16 AM            

I can't buy any explanation that doesn't acknowledge population loss--human, animal and vegetative--as at least a secondary if not primary goal. That was why we got so pumped when we read the first proposal of the Space Preservation Act, which defined Chemtrails as an exotic weapons system.

posted 02-28-2002 10:24 AM            

This use of Americans as guinea pigs has been going on at least since the '50's and has apparently never stopped, as long as it's considered important to our 'national security'!

posted 02-28-2002 04:31 PM            

I found the story about the 12 air traffic controllers expressing concern most interesting since they have within their power the ability to make this issue more visible to the public. It appears that on numerous occasions they've been given orders to divert air traffic due to military exercies going on overhead. And the haze has had a degrading effect on their radar screens.

In one segment of the show Will also explained that there is a lot of spraying going on in Afghanistan and they believe there is a CIA conncection with certain drone aircraft using chemtrails as a means to locate the enemy in order to eliminate them with the missles carried on board these planes.
When I heard about this I suddenly understood why chemtrails was presented in that congressional "bill" as an exotic weapon. It certainly sounds like that's one of the uses connected with the spraying.
It was also interesting to note that the reason the "bill" was rewritten was due to pressure from the committee. Course we knew that all along.

Hopefully there will be a transcript or something available on Will's website for those who were not able to listen to his most informative presentation on Bell's show. One might also be able to purchase a copy of the tape from Mr. Bell.

posted 02-28-2002 07:53 PM            

Deb:

Thank you for your e-mails of Jan. 29. I looked again at Thomas Schlatter's
response to the chemtrial question, and don't think it could be stated much
more clearly. Here are a couple of sentences from his response:

"There is no evidence in the meteorological literature or photographs on
these Web pages to support them....
I contend that there is no visible or other physical evidence of
high-altitude spraying, and so I do not believe in chemtrails."

If people read his full response, it's obvious that Dr. Schlatter does not
believe in chemtrails. If people want to misconstrue, misquote, or
selectively use some of his other words in the response inaccurately to
further their own beliefs, there isn't much we can do about it. I think we
will leave his response as it stands.

Thanks for your interest in Weatherwise magazine.

Doyle Rice
Managing Editor
Weatherwise Magazine
Heldref Publications
1319 18th St. NW
Washington, DC 20036
phone: 202-296-6267 ext. 223
Web site: www.weatherwise.org

> ----------
> From: D. Phalen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:28 PM
> To: Doyle Rice
> Subject: Fw: Contrail Page by Thomas Schlatter - Addendum
>
> Mr. Rice,
>
> This is what I was referring to in my earlier correspondence below:
>
> ===========
> from Schlatter's weatherwise page:
> www.weatherwise.org/qr/qr...trail.html
> "At temperatures lower than about -76 degrees F, contrails almost always
> form, regardless of relative humidity. The higher the ambient temperature,
> the less likely that contrails will form.
> At temperatures above -40 degrees F, contrails are not
> expected."
> ==================
> from William Thomas in Nexus:
> www.nexusmagazine.com/chemtrails.html
> "As NOAA meteorologist Thomas Schlatter explains, for even short-lived
> condensation trails to form, "we're talking temperatures lower than about
> minus
> 76 degrees Fahrenheit, and humidity at jet altitudes of 70 per cent or
> more".
> =====================
> from Joel Skousen in Centrexnews.com:
> www.centrexnews.com/colum.../0111.html
> "According to NOAA meteorologist Thomas Schlatter, quoted in the article,
> "for even short-lived condensation trails to
> form, we're talking temperatures lower than about minus
> 76 degrees Fahrenheit, and humidity at jet altitudes of 70
> per cent or more."
> =======================
>
> Deb Phalen
> Plainfield, IN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: D. Phalen
> To: Doyle Rice
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: Contrail Page by Thomas Schlatter
>
> Dear Mr. Rice:
>
> About a year ago, I wrote and asked your permission to link Thomas
> Schlatter's page about contrails to my website - The Chemtrail Hoax
> http://worldzone.net/international/chickiedeb/ and it's been there ever
> since. (Thanks again!)
>
> However, it has been called to my attention that because of the way his
> writing is formatted, it is being interpreted by those perpetrating the
> hoax as proof of "chemtrails." I have seen his page used this way just
> recently by several people, but dismissed it as their inability to
> comprehend. BUT, any way it can be edited to demonstrate the difference
> between what is fact and fiction?
>
> Thanks in advance for your consideration!
>
> Deb Phalen
> Plainfield, IN

Here's a link to one of Thomas's earlier works that doesn't get much attention since he coined the word, "chemtrails." Sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder in spite of the Montreal Protocol, the air is cleaner and people are living longer.
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/invest/investjets.htm

>>"In his NEXUS New Times article, William Thomas wrote, “Chemtrails can cause drought by soaking up all available moisture,<<"

Then how does he (Thomas) explain the end of the drought on the Pacific Coast? Like some of the folks at Clifford Carnicom's forum, I have written to Mr. Thomas and never received an answer. http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5747.topic

Has anybody here had any one on one interaction with Mr. Thomas?

I would really like to see some names and point of contact, whether it be 12 air traffic controllers or "scientists" from Wright-Pat. "misconstrue, misquote, or
selectively use" just doesn't cut it when such serious accusations are being made.

Edited for - Forgot to add that clearing air-space for military happens every day, in many locations, for various reasons.

posted 03-01-2002 12:01 AM            

In my opinion I think it's a bit early to get real excited about the end of the drought in the Pacific Northwest. Since I live in this area I can personally tell you that the last time I was up on Snoqualmie Pass I wasn't that impressed with the snow pack. Sure there seemed to be lots of snow up on the summit... but those resevoirs were so depleted last year we're going to need a better than average snowfall to make up the lack. I prefer to wait and see on this particular issue.

posted 03-01-2002 06:24 AM            

Not the first time, and probably not the last.

William Thomas is a former (terminated) journalist for Enviromental News Service. I doubt his name has even been mentioned on "Rush."

posted 03-01-2002 01:44 PM            

As for Mr. Thomas, his story sounded pretty intriguing and worth listening to me regardless of his background.

posted 03-02-2002 03:02 AM            

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As the sun rose on July 19, 2001, Peter J. Cordani and his team of experts were busy loading 8,000 pounds of Dyn-O-Mat® formulated polymer product into a Canberra jet airplane. Yes! Similar test had been performed whereby the team split a fair weather cloud in half and they later took a whole cloud out of the atmosphere utilizing only 300 pounds of product dispersed by a crop duster. But now it was different! This was the big test that everyone had been working for. Would it work?? As the day continued final radio preparations were made that would allow communication between the Canberra jet, the chase plane, the boats, the controllers located in the Palm Beach International Airport tower and ground crews. All details were completed and now the entire team awaited the word from the tower that they had in fact located a building thunderstorm off the coast of Jupiter, Florida.
At approximately 3 pm EST the word came from the tower and the Canberra and the jet chase plane were cleared for take off. With runway in view the entire team looked on as the planes became airborne. The teams prayers, beliefs and hard work was now in the hands of the pilots.

As the plane became airborne, radio communications began between the tower, the planes and the ground crew. The planes were vectored by tower controllers to the thunderstorm which had been sited prior to takeoff. As the pilots sited the storm, they notified the tower and positioned themselves which would allow them to drop their payload.

THEN THE COMMAND FROM THE CHASE PLANE CAME,
"DROP YOUR PAYLOAD."

posted 03-02-2002 03:54 AM            

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Caldeira
To: D. Phalen
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: program [using massive spraying for weather modification]

Dear Deb,

I have no knowledge of the "Chemtrail/Contrail" controversy other than what I have seen at that web site. I did speak to someone on the phone and did take part in a published study on Geoengineering.

Here at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, we performed a computer simulation of the effect of reducing solar radiation incident on Earth's surface to counteract the CO2 greenhouse effect.

I said that we originally did the study to try to show that Lowell Wood and Edward Teller were wrong. They proposed that scattering or reflecting sunlight could largely reverse the climate impacts of global warming. I thought that this was wrong because the seasonal and latitudinal pattern of radiative forcing by a change in solar radiation is very different than that produced by CO2 in the atmosphere.

To our surprise, we found that in our model this geoengineering scheme worked quite well. Nevertheless, in our last paragraph of our paper, we do list many reasons why this might not be a good idea, and suggest that the best course is to reduce CO2 emissions to the atmosphere.

We never mentioned, nor do I know anything about, health effects from aluminum oxide.

I said, perhaps too flippantly, that I did hear rumors that some geoengineering research would be funded next year as a backstop failure technology, but that it probably wouldn't happen because it could be political suicide [i.e., it could get bad press, and funding this probably wouldn't win anybody any votes].

I also said that I don't believe there is any large-scale secret geoengineering research program. If there was such a program, how come a guy [like myself] who is in touch with the main proponents of this concept [Lowell Wood and Edward Teller] isn't getting any money from it? I think if there was such a program, people at this lab [which does all kinds of secret nuclear weapons work] would be getting money from it.

Cheers,

Ken

Dear Dr. Caldeira:

An article appeared recently in a publication, Columbus Alive by Bob Fritakis and Fritz Chess, titled Stormy Weather -The government's top-secret efforts to control Mother Nature, where you were quoted.
http://www.columbusalive.com/2001/20011206/120601/12060101.html

I was alarmed to see you quoted in relation to the chemtrail/contrail controversy, especially when several mistruth are written in the same piece.

Would you be kind enough to clarify for me exactly what you meant and how does your work apply to "chemtrails?" Were you indeed confirming that such a project exists and has been and continues to be utilized for the past 3+ years over the United States?

>>>Ken Caldeira, a scientist at Lawrence Livermore Labs and one of the country's leading experts on weather modification, conducted the original computer modeling for the use of aluminum oxide to fight global warming. He told Columbus Alive, "We originally did this study to show that this program [using massive spraying for weather modification] shouldn't be done," due to negative health effects. Caldeira said there are persistent rumors that the Bush administration will announce geo-engineering weather modification projects this spring. Caldeira sees this as "political suicide."<<<

Thank you in advance for your assistance, I am

posted 03-02-2002 04:22 AM            

When the Dyno-Gel story broke, I perused their website and bought some with the hope of aiding some of my shrubbery in the event of the drought continuing into the 2001 growing season. But the rain came and I didn't have to use it. In fact, last year was the best growing season we've had in 8 years and we didn't have to pump from the creek not once. The product is still in my garage.

>>"Mix this stuff with barium stearite and aluminum oxide and you have a real mess"<<

If the inventors of Dyno-Gel/Mat were producing and selling this stuff to anybody for the use you suggest, I doubt they would be selling the product from a website. With the magnitude of "chemtrails," they'd be sitting around counting their dollars. The product was intended for industrial spills, and like any inventor, they continued to address other possible applications.

posted 03-04-2002 08:17 PM            

Ken Caldeira from Lawrence Livermore was the scientist misquoted in the Columbus Alive article. I wrote to him; he answered. When in doubt, I contact the source, which I don't see too many people do - it's easier to 'believe.' I did not post the CA article. What do Will Thomas and Fritakis have in common? They are radical Greens. If that's your cup of tea, fine, but why twist, misquote and fabricate? Why believe anyone who misquotes, twists or fabricates? It's been my experience that if someone will lie about one thing, they will lie about another.

posted 03-04-2002 11:37 PM            

<< One thing I've found this past 3 years is that legitimate people will answer your inquiries. >>

posted 03-05-2002 12:00 AM            

I don't try to understand double-speak and I don't post it and then try to pass it off as 'factual and true' evidence either, (like some of the CON-trail artists creeping in here at CC). Why do some of them try to act like 'cut & paste' is a bad thing? It must be because they can't find enough info or evidence out there to back their phony claims that CHEMtrails are contrails.

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"legitimate people" You mean, like Rush Limbaugh? lol

Flush Rush and that weasel on 'Politically Incorrect', they're both (ABC... not you ABC123, the CIA network) disinfo scumbags... just different sides of the same coin, (IMO) .