posted 03-31-2002 12:09 AM            

Rivers down to barest of levels; 57 waterways at historic low flow in drought, analysis shows

By Traci Watson and Paul Overburg

Excerpt:

....."What's unusual is we're seeing some pretty intense multiyear droughts," says Mark Svoboda, a climatologist at the National Drought Monitoring Center at the University of Nebraska.....
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20020328/3977377s.htm

3/30/02
The Atlanta Journal Constitution

Years of drought parching the East

Excerpt:

.....In many places, the drought is entering its fourth year.....
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0302/31drought.html

3/30/02
The Bangor Daily News

Drought poses special problems for Northeast

Excerpt:

.....Droughts don't just crop up, he said, but they are years in the making. The current eastern drought began in 1998 and likely won't let up soon.....
http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.html?ID=53676&town=&byline=SusanYoung&cname=Statewide§ion=&tt=8PM

There are many more references to this four-year timeframe in the media out there. Interesting, isn't it?

Start looking - you'll see them. As if you have to *read the paper* to know this if you're living in an affected area and have watched this situation developing.

Naturally, the primary focus is on the water supplies, lack of precipitation, effect of this on crop yields, fishing, etc., escalation of forest fire potential and so on.

posted 03-31-2002 07:16 AM            

It's obvious that some folks think that the weather had been modified deliberately for reasons no one can agree on. Climate changes, therefore weather changes. I mention the Drought of the 30's and an article is posted quoting that the current drought may be similar. An article is posted with a quote from the Mayor of NYC saying this is worse than 10 years ago. SO I ask, what happened 10 years ago. Natural disasters are nothing new. We just happen to be living in a time and place when this one is occurring. Preparing and dealing with it, to me anyway, seems more productive.

Are contrails effecting the weather? They're still working on it.

posted 03-31-2002 10:21 AM            

And if my brother hadn't called me from Pittsburg two minutes before it started, I would have missed this 3/26 program. Who cares?

I've ordered the transcript, I thought this particular discussion was so *instructive*. Especially in view of the last 25 years' conservative Think Tank Pow Wows on the issue of climate change, the content of which is freely accessible online for the edification of all interested parties.

Seems they've decided for ALL of us how the issue is going to be MaNaGeD.

And as for the effect of *contrails* on weather patterns - oh, yes, I'm sure they're *working on it*. In fact, I KNOW they're *working on it*.

They're *working on* a LOT of things -- like, for example, doing away with the concept of an "allergy season" because, hey, what's the point -- it all depends on what you are *allergic to*. Yeah - it was In The News just yesterday.

Signing off from *cOnTrAiL-covered* New England,

posted 04-01-2002 11:35 AM               

Again we repeat. Deb is a debunkster who simply DENIES any material backing up CHEMTRAILS. For more info on her off this list, contact me at: hitech@smithville.net.

Lastly I wanted to THANK The rest of you for your stories and URL's. I've used many in the newsletters as I'm doing today. This has helped to wake up many to this REAL THREAT TrickyDeb NOT withstanding!

posted 04-02-2002 11:39 PM            

One thing I'm really noticing the last few days is how DRY the air is. Not that this is anything *unusual* these days, but it IS unusual for this time of year here. Are you noting this up your way?

Everyone - if you're in a drought-affected area right now, please take into consideration that if you find yourself feeling uncharacteristically irritable, chronically fatigued, or are experiencing headaches when you don't normally GET headaches, you may be moderately dehydrated. Try drinking more water and see if it helps.

posted 04-03-2002 06:07 AM            

Cabinet members will open spigots to Oregon farmers http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020329-92553308.htm
Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton and Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman will open the A canal head gates to begin delivering water to Klamath Reclamation Project farmers. "This is an important step in assuring farmers and ranchers in this region have adequate water supplies," Miss Veneman said. "There is still a great deal of work to be done and this administration continues its commitment to help farmers and ranchers recover from losses suffered last year."
(Yeah Right!! Trying to LOOK good after they ENGINEERED THE DROUGHT using CHEMTRAILS!)

Your opinions, like "Deb and you are a LIAR and a shill for some government positions" are based on your conjectures and in my case, hopeful/wishful fantasies. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so. Your "spin" on situations are exactly that, and accordingly with your walk to your talk.

Larry, I'm not sure what/which you're referring to when you state "That the government has ADMITTED spraying for various covert purposes." Please provide specifically what/which you are talking about. I can't address your opinions because they are yours. However, I will take you on about "chemtrails" and identification of same, any time, any where. One conspiracy at a time, please.

"Poor little Deb. Now that the FEDs are restricting garden seeds, how will you garden NOW? You don't think these same reprobate minds are capable of thinking up CONTROL of water supplies also."

I've heard that story since 1999 and it's a whole 'nother subject. You have a tendency to group and blame everything on the government. The situation at Klamath happened because of The Endangered Species Act, a law generated that animals' survival is more important than citizens.

I am really emphathetic for those going through the drought, however, the ground is so saturated here that the farmers can't get into the fields (and holding up a construction project for me.) We have so much food left over from last year, our garden will be limited this year to corn and green beans, tomatoes and a few fun things like eggplant - less work, more pleasure. And no problem getting seeds. We are not dependent on our garden for food, it's a preference and hobby. Everybody has choices.

Also, when I read about Montana the other day, a few things occured to me. If you look at the thread, http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000938-27.html
Montana is not a heavily travelled air space. As not to get on a debunker bandwagon, I won't go into other details. But once again, anyone wanting to identify "chemsprayers" can eliminate commercials by using Flight Explorer. When you consider that 1/3 of CONUSA is in drought or abnormally dry status, the size of the ever-moving atmosphere above CONUSA, how many planes, chemical manufacturers and storage, people, etc. it would take to pull off such an operation- and yet no one comes forward. I don't believe that many souls can be paid or lulled into silence, even the flying public who would be watching out of a window while in flight. It just doesn't compute while no one had produced tangible proof of "chemtrail" spraying.

History demonstrates that droughts happen and can last for years. There is hope that this too shall pass. So unless someone can prove there were "chemtrails" being deliberately sprayed 70 years ago, this situation is temporary also. The unknown factor is how long it will last and the problem is how to deal with it while it occurs.

posted 04-04-2002 02:33 AM               

whose info did you have, long ago ?

btw, the phrase "get bent" is rather dubious considering your avatar...

posted 04-04-2002 10:00 PM            

Sprinkle of rain doesn't help lakes

Excerpt:

....."This is the lowest water level that we've ever recorded in that lake and all the adjoining lakes, too," Hart said. "Essentially we're at the point at which the Clermont Chain is not a chain, it's a series of unrelated lakes. All the channels between the lakes are completely dry."

Wednesday's rainfall may have been slight, but it was more than the total for all of last April, when only 0.15 inches of rain fell.

The historic average for April is 2.63 inches. For a year, it's usually an average of 50.5, but it's been well below that for the past four years.

posted 04-05-2002 07:16 PM               

Dry conditions to push wildlife into cities, suburbs

PHOENIX (AP) — Ray Wilson stared in disbelief as the black mountain lion stalked along the edge of the dry gully that runs through his Prescott backyard one morning.
Spotting a black mountain lion is rare, Wilson admitted, but he said the big cat was part of a parade of bobcats and brown mountain lions that have wandered through his suburban neighborhood recently.

A statewide drought, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration calls moderate to severe, has not only drained
lakes and reservoirs and left grasslands ripe for wildfires. It also has animals scrambling for survival. With unusually dry conditions having gripped the state for a fourth straight winter, Arizona Game and Fish Department officials believe wildlife will increasingly search Arizona's cities and suburbs for sustenance.

"It's just common sense," said Rory Aikens, a Game and Fish spokesman in Phoenix. "The food stuff out there in the desert and mountains is depleted, and here we are building up great lush vegetation around our homes, parks, golf courses and businesses."
Even during normal conditions, Aikens said wild animals hunt nightly on the edge of Arizona cities for vegetation, garbage, pet food and pets.

Tucson and Phoenix abound with coyotes and foxes. Falcons roost in downtown Phoenix skyscrapers. And javelinas and bobcats prowl the state's sprawling suburbs and mountain communities. An extra dry winter means these regular visitors and others, including bears and mountain lions, have to penetrate farther into cities and hunt during daylight hours.

"During dry conditions our arroyos and canals become superhighways for wildlife," Aikens said. "You have coyotes sighted in downtown Phoenix and young mountain lions who are being kicked loose into the Prescott area to establish their own territory."

The drought has been especially severe in northern Arizona, where this was the driest fall and winter in more than 100 years, said Mike Staudenmaier, a National Weather Service science officer in Flagstaff. Only small amounts of snow fell on Flagstaff. Normal precipitation is more than five inches. Nearby Mormon Lake, the state's largest natural lake, is dry.

Because of the lack of snow and rain, elk have been grazing on Flagstaff golf courses, said Ron Seig, the Game and Fish regional supervisor for northern Arizona. As spring advances and bears and other animals stop hibernating and start reproducing, the newly awakened and the young will emerge on a landscape without much green, Seig said.

This winter's lack of moisture is killing a large portion of the berries, nuts and grasses that bears and other animals rely on, said Tom Whetten, a Game and Fish spokesman in Tucson. Bears will respond by foraging in garbage dumps, campgrounds and city backyards. "They're out there trying to earn a living after all," he said. City dwellers, Whetten said, should resign themselves to seeing wild animals this spring and take steps to protect food and pets.