posted 04-01-2002 12:21 AM            

STERLING FOX can be E-mailed here(HE WANTS TO KNOW MORE)
weekend@cknw.com
NOTE: I have not emailed this address yet, further confirmation for his contact can be made here. http://www.630ched.com/on_air.php3
A brief google search review on Sterling reveals only one of 168000 related links.
I need to check to see if his program is archived and available somewhere, maybe I can get some help with this one.

He is going to do more research regarding this subject. Immediately after this post I am processing some of the harder evidence I believe is relevent to our observations. I will be sending it to Sterling for his purusal and provide myself as a contact for further research.

PLEASE, flood this email with your INPUT, any assistance and direction you can provide as to the responsible parties, methods, money flow or anything "factually" relevant. You too Dunk, Jay, Deb. By the number of concerned callers on this MAIN STREAM station, the debunkers are so heavily outnumbered, a different viewpoint will not matter. So many callers (and Sterling himself) said "The programs are very obvious". (So obvious even the blind know somethings going on")

Thermit, I hope it's OK to plug your site to this man. (If wearing the CHEMTRAILCENTRAL.COM T-shirt in front of 16,000 people hasn't been enough)
Dam, I still can't believe it, MAINSTREAM AGAIN.

I have already had correspondance with Leslie Primeau and Gord Whitehead at this same radio station. It's been 'arms length' for them to this point but hearing Sterling talking about CHEMTRAILS during PRIME TIME may help get them looking into this more(If they are willing).

Gord often mentions ART BELL who is on from 100 hrs to 500hrs, then followed by Gord. Chemtrails only came up once before when David Phillips (Environment Canada Head meteorologist?) got a call from me on the topic of Alberta Drought and Weather modification.

THIS STATION "Chorus Radio Network" today, AGAIN brought chemtrails to the attention of tens of thousands of listeners here in CANADA.

Can my American cousins help me keep it rollin'? EMAIL STERLING NOW
Let's confirm that posting his replies here will be appropriate.

OK Onward, I'll check for feedback later. I thank you all in advance for your attention in this matter.

posted 04-01-2002 03:43 AM            

Go to Sunday @ 7:00pm.

About half way through the hour Stirling gets a call from a previous Con-Air employee who built aircraft for spray applications. He states that these same planes are the ones that he sees in the sky being used for;

I won't give away the last chapter yet but apparently Mr. Faux was simply the recipient of a few calls from some very observant, intelligent, concerned citizens as well as a participant in chem-plane manufacturing.

He sounds open minded and interested in the topic.

posted 04-01-2002 11:04 AM            

Dear ICU812:

Thanks for the heads-up and the suggestion. It's always comforting to know that there are people like you who, although their opinions differ from mine, want to see that both sides of the story are available to the public.

I took your advice and wrote Mr. Faux a letter, which I am appending below.

Dear Mr. Faux:

I had read a post at one of the more 'excitable' conspiracy-sites on the Internet regarding a recent show that you did which included a discussion of 'chemtrails' or aircraft contrails really being some sort of spray-plot by to-be-determined powers to either sicken us all, shield us from radiation, or cure warts.

Although I am not in the pay of the US Government, the Bilderbergers, or the little purple men from Arcturus, I have been an aerospace professional for about thirty years. Most of my colleagues -- like me -- are ex-military and have some experience as private pilots; many others -- unlike me -- are retired military aviators.

I am sure you're aware that most if not all credible sources consider such conspiracies as being merely silly. Every single 'anomalous' report of 'chemtrails' can be explained by perfectly natural behavior of aircraft contrails under a wide range of differing but normal meteorological conditions.

Even more telling is the fact that if such a nefarious world-wide plot did exist, it would necessitate the cooperation of hundreds of thousands of pilots, flight mechanics, air traffic controllers, aircraft builders and modifiers, workers at the "poison-factories", all the TV meteorologists, every journalist itching to get a Pulitzer for an expose like this, and the entire government infrastructure of the United States and Canada. The fact that not a single one of these multitudinous conspirators has ever blown the whistle is somewhat telling, to say the least!

The only folks who actually stand to gain something from such a hypothesis are the peddlers of quack nostrums for everything from "chem-poisoning" to Reichian Orgone devices called "chem-busters" which comprise copper tubes, crystals, and some potting compound These wondrous engines will , when purchased from these frauds, magically clear the atmosphere of these "chemtrails" (no, I am not making this up).

Meanwhile, I see many people writing in to these sites to say that they are keeping their children in the house on "bad chem-days", calling their elected representatives to demand that the government stop whatever governments do and investigate and expose the "plot", and even, in some cases, calling for some "real patriots" to shoot these "chem planes" out of the sky!

I certainly do not have any business or right to tell you what to say on your program, but I sincerely hope, in the interest of fairness, that you contact some real scientists and atmospheric researchers to provide your audience with the balance that such a controversial belief needs.

If you have any further questions or comments, or would like any further information, please feel free to contact me at my home e-mail: duncankunz@cox.net.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

posted 04-01-2002 11:39 AM            

quote:

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one of the more 'excitable' conspiracy-sites on the Internet

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posted 04-01-2002 01:55 PM            

Absolutely not! I have never seen widespread blurbs about chembusters or shooting down the chem-planes here. I was referring to carnicon, rick's gardening tips, and the lo_ site.

posted 04-01-2002 02:34 PM            

", I have been an aerospace professional for about thirty years."

"I have never seen widespread blurbs about chembusters or shooting down the chem-planes here. I was referring to carnicon, rick's gardening tips, and the lo_ site."

My, my...what a busy little bunny Duncan is...on Boeing's payroll no less.

Extensive responses...often within hours in rebuttal of a particular stinging post.

How is it Duncan that you have any time to get "real" work done?

...or are we to assume that THIS is your REAL work?

posted 04-01-2002 03:01 PM            

Duncan
Send this along to Sterling Fox. It can only
add to your credibility and your "real work
ethic."

Author Comment
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http://pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails22884frm1.showMessage?topicID=224.topic

Fifty Miles of Plain Contrails

...with apologies to Paul Simon

(Intro vamp)
|Em/G | D(6) | Cmaj7 | B7-9 | Em | D#dim7 | F#dim7 | B+
|Em/G | D(6) | Cmaj7 | B7-9 | Em | Am7 | Em | Em
| Em | Am7 | Em | Em

"The answer is all inside your head," he said to me.
"Take a hundred percent relative humiditee,
At about minus forty give or take a small degree,
And you'll have -- fifty miles of plain contrails.
Fifty miles of plain contrails."

"There ain't no barium nor aluminum, you know,
There ain't no blood cells or bad bac-ter-i-o,
It's just plain spider-webs in you super-flashlight's glow,
You just have -- fifty miles of plain contrails.
Fifty miles of plain contrails."

(Chorus)
"So use common sense, Rense,
Stop smokin' that spliff, Cliff,
Quit tootin' that blow, Lo,
And listen to me."

"You're just peddlin' jive, folks,
Everyone's still alive, folks,
So just take five, folks,
And get yourself free".

(interlude vamp)

"I know you took those contrail pictures without pause,
But pictures of Christmas presents don't prove there's Santa Claus,
And there's a difference between a cheap hoax and a cause,
You still have -- fifty miles of plain contrails.
Fifty miles of plain contrails."

posted 04-01-2002 03:17 PM            

But let me make another point that seems to be missing from this conversation, whether from Lulu, Molliani, or Sore Throat:

How and when I post is simply none of your business.

I know that many other people post at all hours, which leads me to believe that either none of you have a job, or you are posting on your break time, or you are working another shift, or you are posting when you should be doing whatever it is you are getting paid for. And you talk about me getting "real" work done?

And you know what? That is none of my business.

Now your comments about when I happen to post are completely irrelevant to the posts I make. So far, I have been getting good performance appraisals, reasonable salary increases, and, unlike at least one individual I know, have managed to actually hold onto my job.

But that's none of your business either.

I'm getting pretty tired of having my comments responded to by either silly comments about being a secret CIA-weenie or whatever it is - or by comments that I'm taking some sort of unfair advantage because I can post during the day.

If you find flaws in my reasoning, why don't you comment on that?

posted 04-01-2002 04:07 PM            

[I know it's fun to hang with whacks out on the Net] ............

posted 04-01-2002 06:08 PM            

"50 miles of Boeing BS" LMAO

Another link for the radio show
http://209.115.161.208/cgi/vaultfile.cgi?0-19

From Lo's... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chemtrailtrackingusa/message/83096
...thanks for the heads up Duncan...glad you have the time to keep us informed as my web time is limited...the government pays me to attend college, so that's where I spend my days.

posted 04-01-2002 09:17 PM            

So you're on the government payroll, too?

posted 04-01-2002 09:43 PM            

Wrong there Duncan boy.

You post on a public board, and I respond on a public board, how, when and with whatever I choose.

So here it goes:

Your quote, "So far, I have been getting good performance appraisals, reasonable salary increases, and, unlike at least one individual I know, have managed to actually hold onto my job." is a prime example of what a low life you are.

So you got personal information on someone...something that you could use to embarrass them...

...only you won't.

You'll only threaten.

Does this make you feel powerful?

How utterly pathetic.

What a little, little man you are!

By the way, for those of you relatively new to this board, this Duncan Kunz, a self-described aerospace engineer employed by the Boeing company, is the same person that adamantly posted that there was no cabin air filtration on commercial airlines.

This was key to his debunking about people flying in aircraft being subjected to whatever was released in ChemTrails, if they in fact existed.

On this point, this 30 year aerospace engineer, was proven to be absolutely in error.

posted 04-03-2002 03:57 AM            

This incredible member of Conair was recently inducted into the Canada Hall of Fame. http://www.cahf.ca/members/K_members.htm

Leslie George Kerr

Birthdate: May 15, 1928
Birth Place: Langley, British Columbia
Year Inducted: 1999

" His visionary leadership in pioneering the development of aerial application technology has made Conair Aviation Ltd. the world’s largest operator of aircraft used for special aerial delivery systems constituting a major contribution to Canada’s aviation industry."

" As the visionary founder of CONAIR Aviation Ltd., Les Kerr has had a significant influence on aerial delivery systems worldwide. Kerr helped to make CONAIR one of the world's largest operators of special purpose aircraft used for fire detection and suppression, oil slick dispersal and aerial application of fertilizers and insecticides. Over 50 CONAIR designed delivery systems are in operation around the world." http://www.conair.ca/

A googly search of Conair reveals 2500+ links that can be reviewed to determine if any information is available on af/mil contracts for modification.

I hope you all took the time to write Stirling regarding your personal experiences with chemtrails(in addition to getting sidetracked by Duncan)

Another letter writing adventure is required and once again Duncan, your gentle way with words can be utilized here.

To substantiate the callers claims about Air Force aircraft modifications to converted civilian aircraft, we need to ask Conair a few questions;

What kind of aerial spray systems can they manufacture?

Have civilian airliners been converted to apply substances?

What are the 50 CONAIR designed delivery systems in operation around the world?

Have they been contracted by the Air Force in the last nine years and for what?

Maybe with your zing Mr. Kunz, you can extract some additional details I may have missed with my letter.

Any assistance in qualifying the callers claims would be appreciated.

Additionally, we can ask them if they think they will be busy this year. Alberta and Saskatchewan are both under drought conditions.

Dugout conditions (ya, us Canadians keep track of our dugouts --and igloos-- real good eh) are for the most part at 1/4 of normal conditions. http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/dugoutm.htm

There's even a tax defferal for drought areas. http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/taxdefe.htm

Record dry conditions. http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/maps/drprec2.htm

Two inches of precipitation in five months.
(Bottom of Page)

Maybe there's too many cloudbusters up here.
Maybe it's just cyclical. Or maybe, some of the contrails we see Duncan, have something in them that has modified the hydrological cycle, among other things.

Onward

posted 05-05-2002 12:16 AM            

He will be providing both sides of the story, (Those who have seen something, recognized that it is different than what they understand to be typical, investigated it, and know somethings up ---- and ---- those who deny, don't know, haven't seen, refuse to investigate or believe, never been outside or think it's too far beyond their 'circle of influence' to do anything about it anyways.)

I again encourage you to ensure all 100 of our voices are heard yuk yuk yuk.
Your info to Stirling has prompted at least a few more folk to look up to see the blue sky disappear.

As the sun bakes the brown needle tips on our northern conifer
The chemtrail days that obscuro our sun, may be what we prefer

Onward

posted 05-05-2002 12:35 AM            

Real player is required

This is only archived for 6 days

Click on 8:00 pm sunday

Run Rp up to 56:21.0/01:00:00.5
Runs until 58:50 er so eh

Like I said, "Only a short blurb, but a blurb"

posted 05-05-2002 05:29 AM            

.....As the sun bakes the brown needle tips on our northern conifer
The chemtrail days that obscuro our sun, may be what we prefer.....

posted 05-05-2002 10:56 AM            

Thanks for your efforts and excellent posts. Haven't had much time lately to check out Conair due to exams, but will definately look into this.

posted 05-23-2002 07:15 AM            

Any debunkers on this forum can simply BITE ME.
I do not argue about the existence of chemtrails - I know they exist - so you debunking mental midgets can take your verbal diarrhea to someone else for debate.
The people of State College, Pa. are awakening to the existence of chemtrails and we will not stop until EVERYONE here knows what's going on.

Have a nice day, everyone....(BIG SMILE)

posted 05-23-2002 09:37 PM            

You do remember the The Problem, don't you?

The one being created by all those trails?

Now about that Wired article...

The skies above the Southwest are typically too dry, and the skies above the deep South are too hot for extended contrail coverage.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,52512,00.html