posted 04-11-2002 12:58 PM            

Here's a link to the discussion group, which contains a link to the cloudbuster (aka "Holy Hand Grenade") building site.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cloudbusters/

posted 04-11-2002 01:19 PM            

If this thing works, they ought to be able to come up with some pictures of white-out type skies, with big clear circular areas above from the cloudbuster. I've not seen any such photos.

posted 04-11-2002 01:57 PM            

First, nobody is selling anything, they are giving out the plans for free and the materials can be bought through any hardware outlet. So they have no financial incentive to give out this information. I guess I wonder, why would they go to this trouble if the thing does nothing and they can't make any money off of people?

Second, there is an active Yahoo group dedicated to the thing, with 402 postings thus far in April alone. I just read about the device on another website and thought I'd get it out to this group as quickly as possible, for those who have the means and tools to build such a device, and for others to take a look at the technology as well.

Third, as far as I can tell thus far, all they are saying is that the clouds are being broken up and the blue sky and sunshine are coming through. Isn't that what we all want?? Granted, there still may be particles of aluminum or barium or whatever in the sky, but at least this gives hope of being able to have a clear sky again. That is worth something to start.

Forth, as we know from this list, photos can be the means for endless debate. If enought people make the thing and get results, that's plenty of stimulating evidence for me to want to read more about this device.

Granted, the technology seems a bit odd, but if you read some of Robert O. Becker's Body Electric or Cross Currents book, you will see that the application of minute electrical currents or magnetic fields can have a huge effect. Also for example, Art Bell has mentioned how people have been able to dispell clouds with thought alone. The point is, we don't understand all the physics in play in the world. Am I skeptical, sure. But, as with this list, I feel if enough ordinary people say the same thing, it's a good idea to check out the idea.

So, I am open minded to the idea and would love to hear from anyone who has built such a device. I'd build one myself, but I don't have a workshop at this time. I will also be looking over the CloudBuster Yahoo group archives for results over time.

Now, someone with a shop please build one of these things and let us know your results.

posted 04-11-2002 02:13 PM            

From: "rick_n_la"
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: @..attempted.white-out...

>>the huge slowly expanding trails seemed to be trapped in a vortex of some
sort that pulled them to pieces..<<

This is exactly how I would describe how my CB in L.A. busts up the
trails and big chembanks coming in off the coast. They generally begin
to rotate in a clockwise fashion, then start coming apart at the edges,
then completely shred and disappear.

Rick