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ophello
New Member
Eugene, OR
22 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 05-10-2002 11:51 AM
  
debunkers.what went through your head when you looked into the sky and saw what so many people claim are chemicals? probably nothing. you looked, said "well, obviously, its just a regular contrail". you see another white painted sky again. "its amazing that so many people see this and think its a conspiracy". forum. you saw a photo of another one. a different one. someone claimed it was real. you said "its just an atmospheric disturbance". logical. practical. you dont need to waste your time with these lunatics. website. information about these "chemtrails" pour in. you decided to see what the kooks on the internet have to say. they all claim "i have proof, i have proof". yeah right, you say. photos everywhere. all different, every one with a claim "this is a chemtrail i saw after work etc. etc. etc." photo after endless photo of the same stuff you see in the sky all the time. you cant believe all this hysteria. clearly this isnt going on, nobody talks about it unless its online. you spend a year doing this. its always the same. suddenly some politician mentions the word "chemtrail" in a treaty to ban space-based weapons. this cant be! chemtrails dont exist. you fight. you debunk. you know the truth, so this guy must be wrong. sure enough, the treaty was revised. the subject is dropped. you won. "and people are still going off about that! whats wrong with them?" but you know better. more photos. more videos. more claims. more articles. more nonsense. it never ends. when did this all start, you wonder? why did people suddenly all go crazy? debunkers. wake up. 
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CanyonMan2002
New Member
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
17 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-11-2002 01:51 AM
Here, Here!!
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-11-2002 02:44 AM
art bell eludes to strange weather frequently...matt drudge referred to *something* weird with the weather sunday night...if a mainstream media outlet (48hrs,60 mins, dateline) would say something about chemtrails I might have more than an inkling of suspicion...if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker... but the fact remains, if there are "sprayplanes" and sprayboys they must hangout some where...where are they ? 
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T/S
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-11-2002 03:28 AM
quote:
but the fact remains, if there are "sprayplanes" and sprayboys they must hangout some where...where are they ?
They’re probably hiding out in many of the same places frequented by those who once threw the switches or dropped all those “harmless” bombs... and wearing their “There Is No Danger” t-shirts, of course...
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“There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” — Senator Daniel K. Inouye (Iran Contra Hearings)
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-11-2002 03:53 AM
"art bell eludes to strange weather frequently...matt drudge referred to *something* weird with the weather sunday night...if a mainstream media outlet (48hrs,60 mins, dateline) would say something about chemtrails I might have more than an inkling of suspicion...
if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker..."The difference between yourself and persons believing in the chemtrail senario is simple. We make up our own minds with our own eyes and research, we don't need main stream media to confirm what we already know.
Tsk,tsk,and seeker, you claim to be an independant thinker!!
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-12-2002 12:20 AM
The difference between yourself and persons believing in the chemtrail senario is simple. We make up our own minds with our own eyes and research, we don't need main stream media to confirm what we already know.
Tsk,tsk,and seeker, you claim to be an independant thinker!! lol david....listen son...I passed my 3rd year (february) involved in "chemtrails" in various fashions, I *found* and read weather as a force multiplier before most of you were involved in the issue for cryin' out loud..I have already seen all the info that has been presented by all the *big fellas* in the chemtrail promotional spectrum, and having already done the research *moons* ago, I will at this juncture place my bet on the skeptical perspective... what I was saying was not that the *media* influences me, quite the opposite, but the opinions of the 3 folks I posted I respect, if they were to take up the issue, I feel that their *standards* are quite high regarding substance over symbolism...and I would certainly take note... dig and quak, those fellas can't eat mre's all the time, just tell me where they park the planes, and which pizza hut they hang out at and I'll take it from there...K ? sheesh
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-12-2002 12:28 AM
They park the planes, of course, where they take off from...Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Perferred cruising altitude 30,000 to 31,000'....Mr. Jay has suggested I hang at the local airport lounge and get to know some pilots personally, so I can ask them all about contrails.Just the facts.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-12-2002 12:31 AM
DAn Rockwell~ was it you that moved my post on Eugenics?
or LuLu?
Or Thermit?
Eugenics is not a
"Other Trails
Mysteries, Conspiracies, and more... "
it is a God Aweful FACT
and may have a good deal more to do with CHEMTRAILS than solar obsquration
so whoever moved the post
contact me at the chemtrail central mail and explain themselves
as they replace the thread to where i placed it
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-12-2002 01:05 AM
They park the planes, of course, where they take off from...Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Perferred cruising altitude 30,000 to 31,000'....bit of a stretch for me anyway, assuming that a base in ohio is *doing* the whole country......I have been to tinker afb here, seen planes that were very large up close...and no visible *nozzels* or apparati...the golf course at tinker is a carpenter's dream...flat as a board and easy to...nevermind...grins... Mr. Jay has suggested I hang at the local airport lounge and get to know some pilots personally, so I can ask them all about contrails. lol...jay's pimpin' now lol  ...that's right out of a movie, can't remember the name...long drive today...*mentally spent*.... ------------------
T/S
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Molliani
Senior Member
Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-12-2002 04:42 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by theseeker:[if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker...] Seeker -
It's to your credit that you didn't add that
social enginer - Mr. Paul Harvey to your
list of credible references.... Read Marks post on eugenics. Re-think and research your position - you will not get the information you're looking for from any network source.... are you really .....
"theseeker"? Go for it !
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-12-2002 04:48 AM
You’re just not getting it, Seeker. Don’t you understand? Everyone else does. Including the... oh, never mind.The message is clear — There is no danger...
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“In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.” — President Eisenhower, 1961...
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-12-2002 10:14 AM
"lol david....listen son...I passed my 3rd year (february) involved in "chemtrails" in various fashions, I *found* and read weather as a force multiplier before most of you were involved in the issue for cryin' out loud.."And you know this about our time involved, how? You sound like BobB, are you two brothers, sisters, married cousins or other.
"Okie-homa where the chemtrails spread across the plains"
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-12-2002 01:35 PM
Thank you to whoever replaced my Eugenics post~ I did not realize at the time that new posts went on the front page of this site~
that could get a little bit wierd if there is a flame fest? just a thoughtThis thing where seeker found AF2025 while we were all still nurseing has me rolling on the floor
Does anyone remember several years ago when the seeker almost believed in chemtrails because he saw the trails, felt ill, and had this wierd smell around his house?
It took him several tence days until he *FOUND* the can of kerosene the local horse had kicked over dribbling and making the smell~~~~~~~~~then he returned to disbelief again
but hey seeker~
*YOU FOUND AF2025* FIRST
i'm impressed Hey David (mind if i call you sonny boy?)
anyway laddie, as i was saying..... Jeeze T/S
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-12-2002 02:29 PM
You might want to check out these threads too if you haven't read them yet
US non-leathal weapon reports suppressed http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001184.html
$1.1 Trillion Missing at DOD for 2000 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000619.html#7 quote:
Originally posted by theseeker:
and quak, those fellas can't eat mre's all the time, just tell me where they park the planes, and which pizza hut they hang out at and I'll take it from there...K ?
For 1.1 Trillion, I bet they're not eating mre's T/S 
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 05-12-2002 04:35 PM
You've got a point Dan - LOL
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 05-12-2002 04:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lulu:
They park the planes, of course, where they take off from...Wright Patterson Air Force Base.[/i]
That's one place where they can be hiding, but I think that one of the government agencies still operates a restricted airfield that is either attached to or is within the vicinity of Stewart International Airport in New Windsor, NY that used to have a number of large C-5A transports that were flying in and out of there and several of them could be seen on the ground at any given time. I'm not sure if they still use that airfield but I think they do.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-12-2002 04:43 PM
There are literally millions of acres of flat desert in California and Nevada that are Military Operations~ many of them are now surrounded by Wilderness areas and Monuments further limiting access.
You could land and take off all day long and never be seen until you were at 40000 feet leaving or arriving these areas.
Pipelines railspurs ect
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-13-2002 12:29 AM
here's what I said, mr.marked sky, sober up and read along...I *found* and read weather as a force multiplier before most of you were involved in the issue for cryin' out loud no where does it say I found first, maybe my glasses are dirty, does it say mark ? at any rate I just went through the *files* and found the hard copy date of when I did post that link...could you do the same ? while your at it let's have a look at this post of mine you reffered too...btw, isn't jp-8 and jet-a basically kerosene ? I'll let you slither off now...be sure to watch out for those *un-marked* semi~trucks carrying chem goo... next ------------------
T/S
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-14-2002 12:26 AM
lassy? where art thou?
back on topik http://eml.doe.gov/hsrd/hsr98/LLNL.htm
slittering away your eminence
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ophello
New Member
Eugene, OR
22 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 05-14-2002 03:31 AM
hmmm, this post seems to have lost direction entirely. if you have something to say related to the original post, fire away. otherwise, you might as well start a new post topic.
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