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Jeanie
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551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 06-12-2002 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CHEMTRAILS CONFIRMED

by

William Thomas

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As a resurgence of unusual aerial trails crisscross Canadian skies, official confirmation of chemtrails has come from the U.S. Congress.

“Chemtrails” is the term widely used to describe the brilliant white plumes laid down by U.S. Air Force tanker planes photo-identified over North America and a dozen other allied nations. Unlike normal condensation trails – which form when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses in the frigid stratosphere like exhaled breath on a cold day - chemical trails linger for hours, turning clear skies into milky haze in a process the U.S. Air Force calls “aerial obscuration”

Chemtrail Ban Sought In Congress

“Chemtrails” also appear in House Resolution 2977. Introduced last October by Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, this bill called for the peaceful uses of space, and a ban on “exotic weapons”. Section 7 of the “Space Preservation Act of 2001” sought specifically to prohibit “chemtrails”.

Kucinich recently told the Columbus Alive newspaper (Jan. 24, 2002) that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he is well acquainted with chemtrail projects. “The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,” Kucinich told reporter Bob Fitrakis. The U.S. Space Command’s 2020 vision calls for “dominance” of space, land, sea and air.

The unusual white plumes reported by Air Canada pilots, police officers and former military personnel over Canada and the U.S. during the past three years are often contrasted by brief, pencil-thin contrails left by commercial jets flying above them.

Contrails form when water vapor clumps around dirt particles acting as nuclei. According to NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, contrails can only form at temperatures below minus 76 degrees, and humidity levels of 70 percent or more. Even in ideal conditions, contrails rarely last more than 20 minutes.

But atmospheric studies by NASA and NOAA - including TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS - confirm that artificial clouds and contrails can be manufactured under conditions of low humidity by dispensing particles from aircraft. The smaller the size of the nuclei introduced into the atmosphere, the greater the rate of artificial cloud formation.


Canadians Petition Parliament
Canadians were the first to complain about chemtrails to their federal government. On Nov. 18, 1999, NDP Defense critic Gordon Earl petitioned Parliament on behalf of 550 residents of Espanola, Ontario to “repeal any law that would permit the dispersal of military chaff or of any cloud-seeding substance whatsoever by domestic or foreign military aircraft without the informed consent of the citizens of Canada thus affected.”

According to CBC Newsworld (Aug 29, 1999), “Many in the community have reported respiratory problems and strange aches and pains. Town council heard that some believe military jets are dropping material over the town as part of a weather experiment” - after laboratory tests confirmed the presence of aluminum in rainwater falling through chemtrails over Espanola five-times higher than provincial health safety limits.

The Ministry of Defense eventually replied, “It’s not us.”

Studies Prove Chemtrails Cannot Be Contrails

The “airliner” argument collapsed along with the Twin Towers, when heavy chemtrails were reported over Vancouver Island and widely separated U.S. cities despite the grounding of all commercial flights last Sept. 11, 12 and 13.

Photographs of heavy aerial gridding over Santa Fe, New Mexico and B.C.’s Sunshine Coast also contradict official weather data showing high altitude humidity at the same times and locations to be less than one third the moisture needed for contrails to form.

In Houston, Texas, Mark Steadham conducted a 62 day survey of jet traffic over that busy hub. Using a computer program called Flight Explorer, Steadham identified commercial and military aircraft sharing the same sky. The contrails from commercial jets dissipated within 22 seconds. The plumes left behind at the same time by big military jets persisted for four to eight hours.


Canadian and U.S. Aviation Officials Confirm Chemtrails
The first break in an investigation begun by the Environment News Service in Jan. 1999, came 11 months later when Victoria airport authority Terry Stewart returned a call to a Victoria resident concerned about the X’s and grid patterns being laid over the B.C. capitol. “It’s a military exercise, a U.S. and Canada air force exercise that’s going on,” Stewart reported on Dec. 8, 2000. “They wouldn’t give me any specifics on it.”

The “specifics” came in March the following year, when Maine radio reporter S. T. Brendt called a senior Air Traffic Control manager after she, her news director and staff counted 370 plumes filling skies normally devoid of commercial aircraft. During his hitch in U.S. Navy Intelligence, Brendt’s husband had never seen an aerial armada this big. “It looked like an invasion,” Lou Aubuchont said.

The FAA manager told Brendt he had been ordered to redirect incoming commercial flights around “military exercises” on several occasions that month. In follow-up interviews at the WMWV studios, the government official confirmed widespread chemtrail activity. As they flew north into Canada, he said, the planes were spraying a substance that showed up as a “haze” on Air Traffic Control radar screens.

This characteristic signature of radar beams reflecting off fine aluminum particles confirmed the Espanola lab tests. It also matched a patent issued to Hughes Aircraft Corp. in 1994. This practical blueprint described spraying reflective aluminum particles into Earth’s greenhouse atmosphere, “For the Reduction of Global Warming”.

Computer simulations at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory showed that spraying 10 million tons of aluminum oxide into the upper atmosphere would reflect between one and two percent of incoming sunlight. The predictions promised no net warming over 85 percent of the earth surface, despite a predicted doubling of CO2 within the next 50 years.

The biggest lobby pushing for a reduction in global warming are insurance companies bigger than Big Oil and the international trade in arms. Multinationals such as the Swiss Reinsurance Company and Lloyd’s of London report unsustainable losses incurred by Extreme Weather Events caused by a rapidly warming planet. It is feared that if they go bankrupt, so will the money markets and banks that back them.

Andrew Dlugolecki - director of one of the world’s six biggest insurance groups, CGNU - warned the Hague two years ago that unless action is taken to curb global warming, the resulting damage will exceed the dollar value of all the world’s resources by 2065. “Already we’re beginning to run out of money in the insurance industry,” Dlugolecki declared.

It was Edward Teller, father of the H-bomb, who called for spraying a chemical “sunscreen” at a 1998 International Seminar on Planetary Emergencies. Besides disturbing regional weather patterns, Teller’s chief climate modeler, Ken Caldeira worries about negative health effects. The atmospheric scientist who crunched the numbers on Teller’s “sky shield” further warns such a project could, “destroy the ozone layer”. Caldeira believes the U.S. government will publicly admit to chemtrails this spring.

Health Hazard
Scientists say aluminum oxide as inert as sand poses no toxic threat. But after examining more than 3,000 health studies published since 1997, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency confirmed a strong link between tiny particulates and thousands of premature deaths each year.

According to a New York Times feature, “Tiny Bits of Soot Tied to Illnesses” (April 21, 2001), numerous health studies show that “microscopic motes - composed of metals, carbon and other ingredients - are able to infiltrate the tiniest compartments in the lungs and pass readily into the bloodstream and have been most strongly tied to illness and early death, particularly in people who are already susceptible to respiratory problems.”

In a report headlined, “Tiny particles can kill” New Scientist (Aug. 5, 2000) reported a Harvard “Six Cities” study, which “identified particles with a diameter of less than 10 microns as threat to public health.”


Barium Chemtrails
A scientist working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base told Columbus Alive (Dec. 6, 2001) that two different chemtrails projects are currently being conducted by the U.S. military. One involves creating clouds to cool global warming.

Chemtrails are also being deployed by the Pentagon to suspend a mixture of barium stearate and fine iron particles as a temporary atmospheric antenna for conducting radio and radar waves over the horizon. The soapy stearate used to carry the airborne iron particles appears in the sky as prismatic bands of color.

Barium-iron chemtrails were reportedly used to create long range radio-and-radar “ducting” during sustained air strikes on Iraq, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. The scientist interviewed by Fitzrakis also stated that barium chemtrails are being used in conjunction with an “atmospheric heater” called HAARP in Gakon, Alaska.

HAARP’s inventor Bernard Eastland told this reporter that the principal purpose of this multi-million watt weapon is to “steer the jet stream” and change the weather. His patent calls for spraying barium in the atmosphere to enhance the effects of HAARP. “Wright-Pat has long been deeply engaged in HAARP’s electromagnetic warfare program,” Eastlund told Columbus Alive.

Electromagnetic Hazards
If some of the chemtrails being sprayed overhead contain compounds for conducting electromagnetic energy, residents of all affected communities could be in even graver danger from the intense electromagnetic radiation emitted by cellphone and microwave transmitter towers, radar installations at military bases, high-voltage power lines, high-power military relay towers and myriad other well-documented sources of "electronic smog" - 15 million times more intense than natural background levels.

Barium chemtrails could accidentally amplify these already hazardous electromagnetic emanations

Canadian military officers at Canadian Forces Base Comox spokesmen have heatedly denied the existence of this joint military operation. But Terry Stewart told the Vancouver Courier (Aug. 15, 2001) that his information confirming the Canada-U.S. military exercise came directly from CFB Comox.

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Veteran reporter William Thomas has covered stories suppressed by the mainstream media for more than 30 years. He is the award-winning author of Scorched Earth, Bringing The War Home, Probing The Chemtrails Conundrum, Alt. Health, All Fall Down: The Politics of Terror and Mass Persuasion. His video documentaries include “Eco War”, “Waterwise” and “Chemtrails: Mystery Lines In The Sky”.


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FLKook
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posted 06-12-2002 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the post Jeanie. I'm sure that even with this confirmation there will be a debunker in the wings to try and shoot it down. (no pun intended.)

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theseeker
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posted 06-12-2002 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kook, carnicom does it for the debunkers...

On the Rense show you can hear Carnicom explain his *reasoning* why "chemtrails" are not global warming amelioration, and warn his followers about what he calls "disinformation" being put out by a "certain well-known journalist" who has written a movie screenplay called "The Maelstrom".

beginning of second hour here :
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1046738&location=sc5

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FLKook
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posted 06-12-2002 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That doesn't excuse that their may be multiple reasons for CTs as many of us suspect.

Some people won't believe anything till it comes out of the mouths of Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw.

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Alpha-Theta
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posted 06-12-2002 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting this. It's good to here that somebody (in the congress/military) is not completely apathetic.

It's not like any of us need confirmation from "them" anyway though. most of us 'know' whats going on , to some extent.

Maybe it's about time that operation RAINDANCE should pack up and go home.

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White_Skyz
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posted 06-13-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting Jeanie. Excellent summary. Most accounts stated seem accurate based on my brief (6 mo.) observations & investigations. I do note however that there is no URL/source for this document and that its not dated. Can you please provide the source info. Also:

re> "Caldeira believes the U.S. government will publicly admit to chemtrails this spring."

Spring has come and gone. That's why I wanted the date/source for the doc.

I'd thought Bushs' recent flip-flop on the global warming was the precourser for annoucing "saving the planet"from global warming via, wala, Chemtrails. Instead, we appear to be getting the more discreet already dissipate cloud parades....and no public admission. Alot of other similar descisions were made in the recent Berger builder meetings I'm sure. I understand W just sign a Bioterror bill toady. Get ready for the forced vacination programs.

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ellobosolo
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posted 06-13-2002 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellobosolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Article! I live in Dayton, Oh and can verify there are some amazing patterns that are developing. We have much activity almost every other day. I can't believe people see it in the sky and don't realize what is going on.

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Jeanie
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posted 06-13-2002 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello White__Skyz; " Kucinich recently told the Columbus Alive newspaper (Jan. 24, 2002) that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he is well acquainted with chemtrail projects."
While I did not see a date of article's composition, there is the cited date as mentioned above of, Jan. 24,2002. This was likely written sometime after that. The web site from which it was taken is www.lifeboatnews.com Jeanie ***

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Hi again Jeanie, Wow! Good web site. Bookmarked! Didn't find the article (no search engine there), but again, I do find the report accurate by all other accounts. Enough so to forward to friends and relatives...who sometimes look at me like I'm a kook when I mention the spray programs.

Thanks for the report, and the URL. White_skyz

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Jeanie
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posted 06-13-2002 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Skyz::::n Lifeboat news, click upper right, Chemtrails, scroll down and click "Air Traffic Managers across U.S.A. concerned over chemtrails.***PRESTO***Jeanie

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toxdoc
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posted 06-13-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toxdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich does not serve on the House Armed Services committee. http://www.house.gov/hasc/about/members.html

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theseeker
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posted 06-14-2002 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
don't some of you think will thomas looks a bit like "adam west" the first TV batman ?

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posted 06-14-2002 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that you mention it seeker, he does have the bat thing going on!

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Bonehead9
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posted 06-14-2002 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonehead9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all due respect, Jeanie, I simply can not buy into the claim that these stories are "suppressed by the mainstream media."

It is more likely that the editors of mainstream newspapers are probably a little more demanding in terms of documentation and less likely to accept quotes from unattributed sources. Columbus Alive is an alternative paper whose main focus is the local arts and music culture. It has a narrow demographic base and a circulation of only 40,000. I suspect that they are a lot looser with their journalistic
standards than papers with larger circulations. If they screw up a story, who cares?


I love reading alternative newspapers. Sometimes, by publishing little known issues or viewpoints they manage to do a lot of good. On the other hand, just like every one else they can get a little full of themselves.

if a story has merit, Then you will generally see the mainstream local papers picking up on it. I don't think that this will happen in this case. There are too many anonymous quotes and allegations here.

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let's compare the above to...

hmmm....

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posted 06-14-2002 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, my God, Jim!

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Unhappy Trails
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posted 08-19-2002 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unhappy Trails     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping to present...I'd like to hear everyone's opinion of Will Thomas's work. I've heard good things and I've heard not so good things. I'd like to hear from you, what your impressions are. Thanks. U/T

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posted 08-19-2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd be interested to hear your opinion(s) U/T.

quote:
chemical trails linger for hours, turning clear skies into milky haze in a process the U.S. Air Force calls “aerial obscuration”

The U. S. Air Force calls this process aerial abscuration? Really? I'd like to see the source for this statement as Art "it's all normal" Eggleton categorically denies such a claim ~

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"Your e-mail concerning condensation trails over Canada was forwarded to me by the Office of the Prime Minister.

I am advised that the phenomenon you describe is normal and that the Department of National Defence is not delivering any foreign substance int the atmosphere. Condensation trails are formed when water produced by the combustion of jet fuel cools very rapidly as it comes into contact with
cold air and, in effect, forms a cloud. Typically, condensation trails form at higher altitudes where the air is much colder. When the air is stable and there are no strong winds aloft, these vapour trails are persistent, and tend to spread slowly over a long period of time rather than dissipate rapidly.

Although United States military forces and Canadian Forces often conduct combined training, there is no activity called "aerial obscuration," nor is there any activity that resembles your concerns. All military activity is planned with the utmost safety in mind, especially for the civilians and the environment.

I hope the foregoing allays your concerns.

Sincerely,

Art Eggleton

MCU2001-03173A-H"



I have a problem with this statement:

quote:
According to NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, contrails can only form at temperatures below minus 76 degrees, and humidity levels of 70 percent or more.

But atmospheric studies by NASA and NOAA - including TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS - confirm that artificial clouds and contrails can be manufactured under conditions of low humidity by dispensing particles from aircraft.

Photographs of heavy aerial gridding over Santa Fe, New Mexico and B.C.’s Sunshine Coast also contradict official weather data showing high altitude humidity at the same times and locations to be less than one third the moisture needed for contrails to form.


INTERESTING!!!

I've seen trails persisting when RH readings at altitude should indicate the opposite--no persistence.

quote:
Originally posted by Lulu:
Trails seen all day long persisting for hours, drifting S/E, yet I checked every altitude for RH using ADDS and no readings were above 40%, most below 30%. So therefore there is something in the atmosphere which causes trails to persit regardless of the RH readings, or they are CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!! Of course, further study is warranted...

quote:
Originally posted by 3T3L1:
LULU, THAT'S HARD EVIDENCE!!!!! I checked the readings over Kelowna myself just to be sure you hadn't forgotten where you live, or maybe that you had read the ADDS maps wrong. So, if those weren't chemtrails, you Kanucks have somehow figured out how to make persistent contrails at low humidity.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000876.html

BOLD emphasis mine.

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“The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,”

This idea doesn't seem that far-fetched to me.

quote:
In Houston, Texas, Mark Steadham conducted a 62 day survey of jet traffic over that busy hub. Using a computer program called Flight Explorer, Steadham identified commercial and military aircraft sharing the same sky. The contrails from commercial jets dissipated within 22 seconds. The plumes left behind at the same time by big military jets persisted for four to eight hours.

Thermit's Trail Research Report says a lot...as does the grounding of commercial flights during 9-11 and the subsequent reporting of chemtrails during this time. Out of curiosity I would like to see Thermit's study/survey repeated and the results posted here.

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Caldeira believes the U.S. government will publicly admit to chemtrails this spring.

Personally I don't see this happening--ever.

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A scientist working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

And the name of this scientist would be?

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One involves creating clouds to cool global warming.

I've never bought into this 'claim' and I'm not about to now.

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Chemtrails are also being deployed by the Pentagon to suspend a mixture of barium stearate and fine iron particles as a temporary atmospheric antenna for conducting radio and radar waves over the horizon.

Seems logical to me.

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HAARP’s inventor Bernard Eastland told this reporter that the principal purpose of this multi-million watt weapon is to “steer the jet stream” and change the weather.

Funny thing that jet stream is...what is normal?
http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_pac_init_00.gif http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html http://www.stanford.edu/~dmiller/namjetstream_modelsml.html


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posted 08-19-2002 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA are premeditated liars. I wonder about yourself as well.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000022.html


Don't be so vague Lulu. You answer everything with such short sentences or ones that are not your own. Are you trying to be careful of something?


quote:

Main Entry: 1nor.mal
Pronunciation: 'nor-m&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin normalis, from norma
Date: circa 1696
1 : PERPENDICULAR; especially : perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2 a : according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3 : occurring naturally
4 a : of, relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development b : free from mental disorder : SANE
5 a of a solution : having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen c : not associated d : having a straight-chain structure
6 of a subgroup : having the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7 : relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution
8 of a matrix : having the property of commutativity under multiplication by the transpose of the matrix each of whose elements is a conjugate complex number with respect to the corresponding element of the given matrix


You are right, there is nothing normal about the electrojet at this point. It was normal at one point. Before it was partially synthetic. Before it was heated and stimulated by HIPAS. Before Bernard Eastlunds engineering of ion cyclotron excitation. Before HAARP. Before SUPERDARN. Before EISCAT.

Exclusive meteorological analysis is only pseudo-science. Your meteorological links are irrelevant when considering the foremnetioned systems. Have a nice day.




Radiation from the Sun strikes the atmosphere with a power density of 1370 Watts per meter2 or 0.137 Watts per cm2, a value known as the "solar constant." The intensity of HAARP's HF signal in the ionosphere will be less than 3 microwatts per cm2 at its full power potential of 3.6 Megawatts — tens of thousands of times less than the Sun's natural electromagnetic radiation reaching the earth. But, these new satellite systems (NDGPS;GWEN -A-T), if indeed they can generate the power proposed, certainly would solve that problem. With a fleet of these satellites, it could be conceivable that the weather over any geographic location could be modified at will.

quote:
The HAARP antenna as it is now configured modulates the auroral electrojet to induce ELF waves and thus could have an effect on the Zonal winds

-Bernard Eastlund


P.S. Will Thomas is a very intelligent and sound individual,
despite much unecessary and unscrupulous ridicule.

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Unhappy Trails
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posted 08-19-2002 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unhappy Trails     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've bumped this because I am seeking information about this guy. I've been to his website a few times. I've learned a lot about the chemtrails through his website as well as Carnicoms and Chemtrail Central. I am still seeking answers. I have heard that he is losing his credibility. I have heard that he wants to do an in-situ sampling of a plume. I am also interested in doing that. I have no opinion as of yet, it's still too early in the game for me to give one. I do want a chemical analysis of a plume though in my area. If I were to finance such an endeavor....my question is....would this be the best person to hook up with?
I gather from your response Lulu that maybe he's not.

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posted 08-19-2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you hook up with Thermit, Unhappy Trails?

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posted 08-19-2002 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unhappy Trails     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me more Lulu, Thermit? What have you got in mind?

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