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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 04:50 PM
  
Well as we feared here in phx we had a beautiful morning and part of our afternoon...and then it came,a chem-cloud, you could see the remnants of trails stringing together,some so wissp and webby you could see them best with polorized lenses it highlights the chems. AGAIN PLEASE CONSIDER THAT YESTERDAY WE HAD THE EXACT OPPOSITE ANOMALY,FAKE CLOUDS ALL MORNING,THEN THEY STOPPED SPRAYING LATE AFTERNOON,[ATLEAST THAT WOULD FIT A MORE NORMAL WEATHER PATERNS CLOUDS BURNING OFF THROUGH SOLAR HEATING OF THE ATMOSPHERE]HAD THE NORMAL SYMPTOMS BURNING THROAT,EYES,SOME SKIN IRRITATION,HEADACHE,ECT.BUT THINK PEOPLE PLEASE THINK IT'S 90 HERE TODAY AND 12% HUMIDITY,NOT THE KIND OF CODITIONS TO SUPPORTS CLOUD FORMATION!!! ALSO COSIDER EVERY LARGE CITY,ESPECIALY PHX. [BEING A GIANT BOWL] CREATE THER OWN HIGH PRESSURE WHICH AGAIN CAUSES THE BREAK DOWN OF CLOUDS,RAINSTORMS,HUMIDITY,ECT. I'VE WATCHED IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN STORMS OR FRONTS INTER ARIZONA AND BREAKUP OUR GO AROUND US,ALSO COSIDER OUR AVERAGE RAINFALL IS 6.5 INCHES NOT EXACTLY CLOUD FRIENDLY HUH...SO WE RECEIVE FALLOUT FROM THE CHEMS.ONCE AGAIN NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL...I SWEAR TO GOD......------------------
tiredofbeingsprayedman 
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:11 PM
Geez, Mr Capslock up there.Chemwatcher, the conditions down here DO NOT tell you what the conditions are at 35K'. You seem to think that the temperature and humidity data taken at ground level is the same as the temp and humidity data taken at altitude. It is not. It is NOT 90 degrees at 35 thousand feet. At 35K, it is plenty cold to create contrails. And whats the deal with your insistance on "fake clouds"? Sorry, but they look like normal cirrus clouds to me.
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
I think he is looking at ground weather and trying to apply it to conditions at 35 thousand feet. Mostly because he keeps saying its 90 degrees, so ice crystals shouldnt last very long. Hes assuming that the weather here is the same as the weather there.
I'LL WRITE IN GREAT BIG LETERS SO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE LIKE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.NO ONE SAID IT'S 90 DEGREES AT 30 TO 40 THOUSAND FEET AS I'VE READ THE AVERAGE IS 53.5 AT 36,000 FEET,BUT AS I AND THE OTHER 1400 OR SO PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO TELL YOU IT'S NOT COLD ENOUGH TO SUSPEND ICE CRYSTALS FOR HOURS AND HOURS AS YOU KEEP RETORTING IN YOUR BORINGLY MUNDANE, REPEDITIVE INFO THAT SHOWS ME YOUR ETHER INCREDIBLY IGNORANT OR PURPOSELY IGNORING THE INFO YOU KEEP ASKING FOR AND REFUSE TO ACEPT THE INFO PROVIDED TO YOU. SO AGAIN YOU SEEM TO BE INCREDABLY MISINFORMED. HOW OLD ARE YOU? IM CURRIOUS WHAT YOU BASE ALL YOUR WORLDLY KNOWLAGE ON YOU SEEM YOUNG!!!WELL ANY WAY I WILL POST ALL THE SCIENTIFIC INFO AS SOON AS POSIBLE,INCLUDING THE ONE I QUOTED.ONE MORE THING..... NOW LISTEN CLOSE PLEASE, TODAY I WATCHED ALL DAY AND SAW A HUNDRED OR SO OF NORMAL CONTRAILS, I EVEN CAUGHT ONE BEAUTIFUL ONE ON FILM ...JUST FOR YOU!! BIG FAT PLUMMY,TWO VERY CLEAR STREAMS LARGE FULL..... AND HERE'S THE PART WHERE THE HERO GET'S THE GIRL....IT DISIPATED... LIKE MAGIC IT DISAPPEARED... YEAH....,JUST LIKE THEY HAVE ALL MY LIFE!!!!!I CAUGHT A GREAT STILL AND 5 SECONDS OF MOVING WHERE YOU CLEARLY SEE THE DISIPATION,AGAIN I'M NEW THE COMPUTER SO I'LL SEND STUFF ASAP,STAY TUNED,I'M, JUST GETTING STARTED!REMEMBER CREATE THE PRESON YOU WISH TO BE THEN ACT ACCORDINGLY...PEACE!
[Edited 2 times, lastly by chemwatcher on 04-14-2003]
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:28 PM
PHX, This is a very commom misconception. I guess we will just have to keep making the point until everyone gets the word.
F.K.
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:30 PM
>>IT'S NOT COLD ENOUGH TO SUSPEND ICE CRYSTALS<<When and where is this the case? Please provide me some data to look at. Thanks, F.K.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:36 PM
Hey wait I thought it was freezing way up yonder
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:38 PM
THE AVERAGE IS 53.5 AT 36,000 FEET53 degrees at 36 thousand feet?!?!?! Good Lord, where did you get that?!?!? Good thing we have you around to keep us in our place!
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 05:52 PM
minus 53.5C perhaps?
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 06:03 PM
Chemwatcher:The lapse rate (rate at which temperature decreases) is abou 5.4 degrees F per thousand feet. So, if its 90 degrees at ground level, and you muliply 5.4 and 35 (thousand feet), you get 189 degrees. 90 minus 189 is....-99 degrees. Plenty cold.
*Note: 5.4 is on the high end of the lapse rate spectrum. Usually it will be more around 3-4 degrees per thou. But, in any case, this still equates to a temperature much colder than the minimum needed for ice crystals. And FAR less than 54 degrees.
And just for backup, I contacted some meterologists and asked for their input, and they all responded with 60-90 degrees below zero F as a normal temperature at 35 Thousand.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 04-11-2003]
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 09:09 PM
AZ. UPDATE AFTER THE FIRST FEW WAVES IT WAS ON BY 2:00 PM MST. WE WERE COMPLETELY AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE IN ALL DIRECTIONS, I MEAN COMPLETELY COVERED, SO WE WENT FROM NORMAL CONTRAILS,AND BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKIES TO COMPLETE OVERCAST WITH THOSES ALL TO FAMILYER BIG GIANT CHEMTRAILS AND THOSES THAT HAVE ALREADY SPREAD AND CONECTED. I WATCHED IT TRAIL AFTER TRAIL GET SPRAYED THEN SPREAD AND ADD TO THE LAYER. IT HAS MOSTLY PAST NOW.THERE STILL SOME VERY THIN STREAMS STILL PASSING OVER US OF COURSE SYMTOMS ARE GETTING WORSE.PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN CONDITIONS WHERE PRIME FOR CONS THE TRAILS WERE GONE APPROX. 1\2MILE BEHIND THE PLANE. BY THE AFTERNOON WHEN IT'S HOTTER AND LOWER HUMIDITY AND OURS SKYS HERE WERE STREAKED WITH BIG FAT TRAILS AND SOME RAN FROM HORIZON TO HORIZON E. TO W. HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE IMPOSIBLE HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES!!!WELL I NOW HAVE A CAMERA AND CAUGHT SOME GREAT SHOTS OF REAL CONTRAILS THIS MORNING AND HUGE STREAKS BEING LAYED, LAYER AFTER LAYER,UNTIL THEY WOULD SPREAD AND MIX WITH THE REST OF THE WEBBY WISSPY BUT EVER GROWING CHEMTRAIL CLOUD, I MEAN YOU COULD REALLY WATCH THEM DRIFT TOGETHER YET STILL SEE PART OF THE OLD TRAILS, THANK GOD FOR THE WIND. SO AGAIN WHEN I GET MY COMPUTER SKILLS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO SEND THE PICTURES AND INFO THEY WILL BE POSTED SOON. I LOVE THESE NEW DIGITAL CAMERAS THEY PUT THE TIME AND DATE WORKS GREAT TO CATCHING THE SPRAY,GROW,SPREAD,FALL,STREAK, PHENOMENON. KEEP ADDING TO THE PILE OF EVIDENCE,AT SOME POINT THEY WILL BE DROWNING IN IT....PEACE! ------------------
tiredofbeingsprayedman
[Edited 2 times, lastly by chemwatcher on 04-26-2003]
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 09:14 PM
So, have you admitted that it is easily cold enough for ice crystals to stay for many, many hours?Or are you sticking with the 54 degrees?
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 09:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Chemwatcher:The lapse rate (rate at which temperature decreases) is abou 5.4 degrees F per thousand feet. So, if its 90 degrees at ground level, and you muliply 5.4 and 35 (thousand feet), you get 189 degrees. 90 minus 189 is....-99 degrees. AS USUAL YOUR INFO AND THE INFO OF THE REAL EXPERTS DIFFER, IM BEGINING TO AGREE WITH THE OTHERS HERE YOU MUST WORK FOR THE GOV. AND ONLY HOPE TO CLOUD ISSUES WITH YOUR BLINDLY IGNORANT RETORT.IT DOSE'NT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTEST TO SEE THE GIANT CLOUDS BEING SPRAYED AS APPOSED TO THE REAL THING WE HAD THIS MORNING. SO HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING YOU TO ATTEMPT TO COVINCE PEOPLE WE DONT KNOW WHAT WE SEE,WHAT WE FEEL WHAT WE KNOW AND GET THIS STRAIGHT!!!!YOU WILL NEVER,EVER,EVER,EVER,EVER EVEN BEGIN TO SWAY OUR RESOLVE FROM STOPPING THIS AND ALL THE PLANS OF BLIND,IGNORANT,POWER HUNGRY,MYOPIC SELF-RITCHOUS,WORLD ROBBING WORLD THREATENING MISGUIDEDLY EVIL SOULS.#1QUESTION IF WAS ACTUALY -99DEGREES WOULD,NT THE JET PARTS THAT ARE LUBED FREEZE???NOT TO MENTION ICE FORMING ON WINGS ECT. PLUS YOU HAVE TO AVERAGE IN WIND FACTOR OF THE PLANES SPEED, SO I GUESS BY YOUR CALCULATIONS THESE PLANES MUST BE OPPERATING AT LIKE WHAT..... 300 DEGREES BELOW ZERO.... WOW ...GOLLY THEM SURE ARE SOME TOUGH PLANES YA'LL. AGAIN I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW,YOUR INTITLED TO YOUR THOUGHTS NO MATTER HOW ALONE YOU ARE IN THEM THATS YOUR GIFT FROM GOD,BUT THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY THAT WILL CHANGE THE TRUTH AND PART OF THAT FOR NOW IS WE HAD CONS THIS MORNING AND BIG FAT CHEMS THIS AFTERNOON... REMEMBER FILM UNLIKE PROPLE,DOES NOT LIE!!!!! AND I CAUGHT IT ALL TODAY........PEACE! ARE YOU MARRIED I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MY EX.
*Note: 5.4 is on the high end of the lapse rate spectrum. Usually it will be more around 3-4 degrees per thou. But, in any case, this still equates to a temperature much colder than the minimum needed for ice crystals. And FAR less than 54 degrees.
And just for backup, I contacted some meterologists and asked for their input, and they all responded with 60-90 degrees below zero F as a normal temperature at 35 Thousand.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by chemwatcher on 04-11-2003]
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 10:03 PM
What the crap was that?So, in effect, what your saying is that you dont believe that the temperature at 35 thousand feet is around -70 F?
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 10:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
So, have you admitted that it is easily cold enough for ice crystals to stay for many, many hours?Or are you sticking with the 54 degrees?
NOT HARDLY PAL NOT HERE NOT NOW!!!!!!!!,
YEAH RIGHT SUPER SKY KING RANGER DOUBLE OO SPY , THEY DISIPATED THIS MORNING..... LISTEN NOW....,SIT DOWN GET YOUR LITTLE SELF DOWN..... ALL SETTLED IN THERE... NOW....ARE WE COMFORTABLE.... GREAT ... HERE WE GO.....IT DOES'NT MATTER WHAT EXACT TEMP IT IS AND I DONT CARE TO DEBATE IT UNLESS I COULD GO UP AND MESSURE IT MYSELF, THE INESCAPABLE FACTS ARE,CUTE,LONG,SHORT,BIG, SMALL,SUPERFAST OR SORT OF FAST,HERE WE GO, HANG ON NOW,WERE REALY MOVING NOW, CONTRAILS, THAT,I'LL GO REAL SLOW SO YOU WONT MISS IT, D..I..S..I..P..A..T..E..D..........GOT IT?? THEN THIS AFTERNOON NOTHING DISIPATED.SO ONCE AGAIN YOU LOOSE,NOTHING YOU SAID CARRIED ANY WEIGHT OR DEPTH OR IMPACT AND LIKE THE SPOILD CHILD JUST WANTS ATTENTION YOU JUST WANT SOMEONE TO AGREE WITH YOU SO YOU CAN GET YOUR WAY ,WAAAAAAH!!!KEEP TRYING MABEY YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE WHO'LL LISTEN[BUT I WOULD'NT HOLD MY BREATH]PEACE AND LOVE TO THE WORLD!
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 10:34 PM
Chemwatcher, contrails change properties because....get ready....here it comes....atmospheric conditions change!I know! Crazy isnt it! You see, the atmosphere doesnt stay the same throughout the day. See, listen closely now, if a higher humidity air mass moves through an area that did not previously have one, you will get a sudden increase in persistent contrails! Early in the morning, conditions were not right. Throughout the day a high humidity air mass moved into the area, causing persistent contrails! I know you wont believe me, so take a look at this looping water vapor satellite imagry from today. http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_us_loop-12.html
As you can see, earlier today, a very dry mass moved through, then quite quickly, a very high humidity air mass moved right in over phoenix! What did this cause?!?! Thats right! Persistant contrails! And I see your skirting the temperature question. Tell us all straight forward what you believe. At 35 Thousand feet the temperature is usually: A) -40 degrees F
B) 54 degrees F Im assuming you arent choosing one because picking "A" will mean you admit contrail have the ability to last for hours on end, and if you pick "B" it shows that you know nothing about the atmosphere. Rock and a hard place, huh?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 04-11-2003]
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-11-2003 10:34 PM
Friday, April 11, 2003, Spokane, WashingtonIt rained this morning in my area and the day was gray and cloudy. I took a walk around 6:00 p.m., and for awhile was not sure if we had been chemtrailed today, then the sun began to shine brightly on the clouds, and I could easily see the long stringy chemtrails and all the web-like chemtrail-created clouds that are taken for normal clouds. Just another day of being under a chemtrail cloud.
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 11:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Feelin Kocky:
PHX, This is a very commom misconception. I guess we will just have to keep making the point until everyone gets the word.
AGAIN :TO ALL YOU ROCKET SCIENTIST: THE ISSUE IS NOT THE TEMP UNLESS THE TEST WAS DONE HERE AT A SET ALTITUDE ITS ALL JUST EMPTY CONJECTURE THE INFO SHARED WITH YOU WAS NOT TEST PERFORMED BY MYSELF SO I PASSED IT ON TO YOU, FACTS ARE CONS THIS MORNING, CHEMS THIS AFTERNOON!!!!!!!!! BUT AS FAR AS THE INFO AS I SAID IT WILL BE SENT FOR YOU TO READ YOURSELF BUT SOMETHING YOU HAV'NT MENTIONED THE SOLAR AFFECT OF BEING CLOSER TO THE SUN,SOMETHING THE EXPERTS FACTOR IN BUT I GUESS YOU KNEW THAT,AGAIN NOTHING ANY DOUBTER CAN SAY WILL SWAY WHAT WE SEE,FEEL AND TASTE,SOME PEOPLE DO ALL THERE SCENCING WITH THEIR MINDS ONLY,HOW LIMITING,YOUR GREATEST SENSORY EQUIPMENT SITTING IDLE,YOR HEART AND SOUL.AND TO ALL WHO CARE TO LISTEN IM 46 YEARS OLD HAVE LIVED IN THE VALLEY ALL MY LIFE AND HAVE NEVER,EVER EVER,EVER,SCEENS THESE STREAKS THESE WEBS THESE CIRRUS CLOUDS BEING MADE IN FRONT OF MY EYES.PLEASE DON'T BE DISSUADED BUY FACTUAL BANTER LOOK UP WATCH THE SKYS,WATCH YOUR FRIENDS HEALTH,WATCH THE INFLUENZAS SPRED DONT BE DISTRACTED MOVE FORWARD , PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTIN,,MY ASS,WATCH THEM LIKE A HAWK. GOD BLESS OUR WORLD!
THANKS GUYS I FOUND IT, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP,YOUR THE BEST!
F.K.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by chemwatcher on 04-12-2003]
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 11:18 PM
PLESE DONT BE DISWADED BUY FACTUAL BANTEROverlooking the 3 misspellings in a 7 word sentence, doesn't anyone see the problem with this way of thinking? ANYONE??
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 04-11-2003]
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 11:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Feelin Kocky:
>>and relative humidity have been the same here for almost a week <<Where are you getting your data from?
THE WEATHER MEN,WHERE DO YOU GET YOURS,IT'S BEEN BETWEEN 12 AND 14 % GIVE OR TAKE. AGAIN ATTEMPTS TO CLOUD THE REAL ISSUE WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT ICE CRYSTALS,WE CARE ABOUT CHEMS WHICH IS A WORLD WIDE PROBLEM THAT AGAIN,ALL YOUR BANTER WONT CHANGE THAT FACT OR,THAT YOU WILL NEVER STOP OR DISSUADE US FROM BRINGING THE PERPETRATORS TO JUSTICE. SO YOU PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT ICE CUBES ALL YOU WANT,IT CHANGES NOTHING BUT YOUR KARMA.... HAVE A NICE DAY! AND ONCE AGAIN NO ONE SAYS YOU CANT FORM CRYSTALS BUT THEY WONT STAY ALL DAY.IF YOU GUYS WANT I'LL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR WE'LL WATCH CONS AND CHEMS AND YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE...PEACE! F.K.
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tiredofbeingsprayedman
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-11-2003 11:36 PM
OK man, go right ahead.Congrats on raising my level of respect for every other chemmie on this site, as well. At least the others can hold a decent conversation.
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 12:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
OK man, go right ahead.Congrats on raising my level of respect for every other chemmie on this site, as well. At the others can hold a decent conversation.
WOW ARE YOU HIGH ON YOURSELF ARE'NT YOU,WHAT MAKES YOU SO ARROGENT AS TO THINK I CARE WHAT YOU THINK??????? AS FAR AS YOUR RESPECT??????? YOU MUST BE BRAINDEAD!!YOU REALLY THINK I NEED THE RESPECT OF SOMEONE I DONT KNOW,AND DONT CARE FOR ALREADY???? WOW DO YOU FLATTER YOURSELF YOURSELF-RIGHTOUSNESS IS ONLY OUTWEIGHTED BY YOUR GOD LIKE SELF- APPONTMENT TO ALL THE ANSWERS WHERE ONE CAN TELL YOU HAVE NO DEPTH AND NO ANSWERS AND SEEM TO BE A SOCIETAL ZOMBIE ONLY CAPABLE OF ONE WAY THINKING. AND PLEASE DONT RESPOND TO MY POST,AS THER NOT FOR YOU ANYWAY, I GOT ON THIS SITE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR CHEM PROBLEM AND OUR WORLDS PROBLEMS ,YOUR THE KIND OF PERSON WHO WILL STILL BE TRYING TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE WHILE THE WALLS ARE FALLING IN. GET A CLUE,GET A LIFE,SPOILED LITTLE BOY... IM NOT HERE TO COVERSE WITH YOU, AGAIN,HOW FRICKEN ARROGENT YOU ARE YOU ANYTHING FOR ATTENTION HUH...SO USE YOUR ENDLESS DRIBLE ON SOMEONE WHO CARES TO LISTEN,LOVE YA BABE DONT YOU GO CHANGING NOW!!!!!YA-HERE!
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 12:22 AM
Hey there tiger- let's hold off on the caps lock.. ok? ------------------
Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 01:10 AM
MAN YOU REALLY ARE PITIFUL NOW YOUR SETTING UP YOUR RESPONCES LIKE MINE , WITH GET READY ... HERE IT COMES ... I MUST HAVE REALLY HIT A NERVE, BUT WHATS THE MATTER,NO IMAGINATION, CANT COME UP WITH YOUR OWN STYLE, THATS TO BAD BUT I GUESS THATS HOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE YOUR MORE HUNG UP WITH TRYING TO ONE UP OR COPY SOMEONE SO YOU CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF BY FIGHTING THE MISGUIDED FIGHT AND MISS THE WHOLE POINT THAT GETS LOST IN THE BANTER ,YOU LOOSE YOURSELF IN YOUR OWN EGO! SO WERE CLEAR NOW ,I WONT RESPOND TO DEBUNKERS IT'S A WAIST OF TIME , AND ONCE AGAIN LIKE A MOTH TO THE FLAME , I GUESS YOU LIKE THE ABUSE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE LEAVING CAUSE NO ONE WANTED TO HEAR YOUR DEBUNKING,OH WELL GOD LOVES YOU ANYWAY.PEACE quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Chemwatcher, contrails change properties because....get ready....here it comes....atmospheric conditions change!I know! Crazy isnt it! You see, the atmosphere doesnt stay the same throughout the day. See, listen closely now, if a higher humidity air mass moves through an area that did not previously have one, you will get a sudden increase in persistent contrails! Early in the morning, conditions were not right. Throughout the day a high humidity air mass moved into the area, causing persistent contrails! I know you wont believe me, so take a look at this looping water vapor satellite imagry from today. http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_us_loop-12.html
As you can see, earlier today, a very dry mass moved through, then quite quickly, a very high humidity air mass moved right in over phoenix! What did this cause?!?! Thats right! Persistant contrails! And I see your skirting the temperature question. Tell us all straight forward what you believe. At 35 Thousand feet the temperature is usually: A) -40 degrees F
B) 54 degrees F Im assuming you arent choosing one because picking "A" will mean you admit contrail have the ability to last for hours on end, and if you pick "B" it shows that you know nothing about the atmosphere. Rock and a hard place, huh?
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tiredofbeingsprayedman
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 01:27 AM
GEEZ! What's with the caps lock? Your misspelled sentence fragments are hard enough to read as it is.... Certainly ice crystals suspend up in the atmosphere- thats what cirrus clouds are- and contrails. Remember the simplest explaination is usually the true one. Which is simpler- a massive government conspiracy to spray...well whatever you guys think they are spraying- still havent gotten a straight answer... to spray junk in the atmosphere, or that through combustion water vapor gets farted out the back of jet engines and condenses and freezes into cirrifrom clouds after getting twisted and strewn all different directions by the wake of the airplane. Not to mention the fact that it is damn cold up there! By the time you get above 18,000 feet, it is perpetually below zero no matter where you are on the earth. ------------------
Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 02:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
[b]PLEASE DON'T BE DISSUADED BUY FACTUAL BANTER [I fixed them teach,thank's]
OH MY GOD... YOU REALLY ARE A POMPUS ASS ARE'NT YOU !yes I'm new at the computer and at the keyboard I apologies,I get in a hurry and forget to check myself , and i miss-hit the keys and punctuation,forget about it,to much time Im to slow,though I'll try, but for you to try and cloud the truth under the guise of misspelling words and lack of proper punctuation after I've admitted many times I'm new at this I 'M NOT SURPRISED AT YOU TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS YOU SEEM VREY GOOD AT CLOUDING ISSUES WITH THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH REALITY... DOES ANY ONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS KIND OF THINKING...THINKING....??WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES SPELLING HAVE TO DO WITH THINKING???I guess if I spelled right I would think better... gee thats funny what about people who can't write or type can't I guess they can't think in your very,very little world!!!!! YOUR THE KIND OF NARROW MINDED SELF APPOINTED,SNOBBISH PERSON WHO WOULD LOCK AWAY PEOPLE WHO DID'NT SPEAK JUST RIGHT OR LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, HOW COULD YOU POSIBLY BEGIN TO ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK OR WHAT SPECIAL TALENTS I MIGHT HAVE. OH THOSE SMALL MINDS THERE SO LIMITED.I wonder are you also a bigot also ? and please feel free to check my spelling I need the help,again a pitiul attemp to cloud issues like slight of hand you keep-em busy and they wont see whats really going on . come on , I've hav'nt wrote this much scence collage and here I thought I was doing so good. thanks again for the help bro!!!love ya!!!!
Overlooking the 3 misspellings in a 7 word sentence, doesn't anyone see the problem with this way of thinking? THEY ARE FIXED THANKS BRO [/B]
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tiredofbeingsprayedman
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