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White_Skyz
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24 posts, May 2002

posted 06-14-2002 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Started this thread due to an indication of increased sitings of Vintage aircraft being spotted around the North American continent, as indicated on the thread, "Major change in the chemtrails saga!!"

Please advise if you seen similar. Thanks. And here are extracts from the thread mentioned:
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Delphi says: "Now I really get weird on ya...About a week before this "new sky scenario" started, I could swear I was seeing "old" planes fly over, like vintage WW2 style, like out of that eara???"

MGY says: "we're seeing older model aircraft, too"

Padawan-L says: "I, too have been seeing vintage aircraft....for at least a couple of months. They look like highly polished old war bombers"
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White_Skys says: Well well well. What do you know. I've hesitated in acknowledging seeing the old vintage aircraft out and about due to uncertainty. I've seen some very odd shape aircraft in the last few weeks but was never close enough to verify what type of aircraft they might be. Even thought I saw one that looked like it had pontoons on it (for landing in water).

Well I got a real good look at one today. An old old airforce prop plane. One of the ones with the small verticle stabalizers at the end of the tail wings. (I think they we're used as bombers, but not sure) It was shined up real nice and shiny silver. Think it may be the same kind as padawan descibed. Saw it come into the Addison airport in north Dallas at approx 13.45 today, 6/14/02. And BTW - This didn't disappear in clouds. It was real and no more than a couple hundred feet off the ground when I saw it coming in for a landing.

If anyone knows of website w/vintage aircraft pictures I'm sure I could pick it out.

I think we (I) should start a new "Vintage Aircraft" thread? I'm curious where else they're being seen. I believe padawan was clear up in Canada, and I'm down in Dallas. Means they must be elsewhere I'd say.

Very intersting that we're seeing this all around the country. Homeland (Fatherland) security, perhaps??

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 06-14-2002 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey White Skyz,

I'm up in Canada. Your thread caught my attention. As described in My Chemtrail Diary (and I'm sure mentioned here as well)
http://terkelowna.tripod.com/chemtrails/id131.html

quote:
10-5-00
Spotted a low-flying, dark, matte, windowless on side, markingless, war-type plane fly over my neighborhood heading North (to land at Kelowna airport?) I have never seen a plane that looks like this. Took a picture.

Funny thing is the very next day we were blitzed to hell ~

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At 3 PM, just when the children are getting out of school, the BASTARDS released their vile chemicals. A few chemtrails had dark, sinister-looking shadow bands above them. One white chemtrail had an on/off gap in it, with two parallel shadow bands ~ one running just above and the other running just below. The dark bands continued on through the white trail gap. It appeared that these dark bands dissipated in about twenty minutes, but 1/2 hr. later I took a picture of the sunset and although I couldn't see this with my naked eye, it showed up in photo: a low-hanging (lower than any cloud or trail seen ever) black cloud that hovered over this sleepy city for most of the night. It was so windless that this chemcocktail seemed to hardly move at all. Just hang over the city and ever so slowly nudge N/E. Also seen at sunset a red (top), orange, yellow, green chemcloud just over the mountains in the West, which I'm sure (confirmed) was witnessed by others (in Vancouver). These colors were seen with sunglasses on, with the naked eye only looked a very bright white/yellow.

Yeah, everything is normal folks...


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White_Skyz
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24 posts, May 2002

posted 06-14-2002 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lulu,

Some neat stuff on your site. Admire your diligence and preserverence. Unfortunately it looks likes it going to get more difficult to "out" these mass poison ops, as they've appeared to start better hiding their spray ops with new techniques. (Read the "Major change in the Chemtrails saga" thread)

With regards to the Vintage aircraft, not sure if they are part of the ops or not. I've noticed them here only recently, after the announcement of Homeland security going under way. I understand some of these "volunteer" "citizens" are way gung-ho to the point of even using golf carts for security vehicles (I kid you not. Read: http://www.almartinraw.com/column60.html) So, thought perhaps maybe the Vintage craft are being donated and flown by old U.S. vets for "surveillance" of "terrorist" threats. (Ooo...oogey-boogey scare scare)

The vintage plane(s) I've seen all seem to be flying below 10K ft.(even lower actually) Of course, the homeland security thing sure wouldn't explain why vintage aircraft are being spotted in Canada.

Things that make you go, "Hmmm?", ey. Not sure why the increased vintage sighting, which is why I'm thinking if enough people can note their observation, perhaps we can see trends and draw better conclusions.

Cheers. White_Skyz

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Molliani
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422 posts, Mar 2001

posted 06-16-2002 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Air Show and Fly-in season is here. Take in an air show - they're fun.
http://www.airventure.org/
http://www.eaa.org/
http://www.vintageaircraft.org/
http://www.flyins.com/flyins/index.po?

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PHANTOM911
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341 posts, Oct 2001

posted 06-17-2002 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHANTOM911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molliani (Molly and I?) has it right y'all.
Great links. And Pacer has his take too.
It is.....
Oh No! Now TPTB are coming at us with Stearmans and B-25s!
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www.chemtrailcentral.com/...00231.html

OHHHHH BOY!

The paranoia jumps up a notch. Suddenly they chemmies are noticing the number of "vintage" aircraft flying around, and the theories range from being "part of the spray operations" to "homeland security".

So Big Brother is fielding quite the spread! On one hand, they have all these super-duper secret squirrel orbs flying around, not to mention the cloaking cargo jets (why the Air Force would only cloak cargo jets, and not fighters remains a mystery). Then on the other hand, there are the "weather warriors" commencing their nefarious plots with 1930's vintage biplanes, and WWII era bombers.

Hey guys, here's a hint: Those aircraft have been out of production for many years. The parts either come from other wrecks or are fabricated in home-made shops. They require an incredible amount of devotion to keep them flying. They are flying museum pieces.

So why would TPTB want to use airplanes that fly slow, have zero capacity to conduct any modern operations, and cost a fortune to maintain? Wake up, people....there are alot of pilots across the country who's primary hobby is the restoration of old airplanes. The airport right down the road from my house (Wetumpka airport, Alabama) has two biplanes in residence, both cared for and operated by local pilots. But who knows? Maybe the Illuminati has them on their payroll.
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I think that should about cover the reasons why this time of year as with every year the old flyers are out and about. Go see some of them up close at airshows. Take the kids. It's a fun time for all. Who knows, airshows may very soon become a thing of the past with the threat of TERRORISM now a part of our daily lives and the fact that un-armed aircraft have been used as weapons.
FLY THE FRIENDLY SKIES


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White_Skyz
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24 posts, May 2002

posted 06-18-2002 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Phantom,
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re> The paranoia jumps up a notch. Suddenly they chemmies are noticing the number of "vintage" aircraft flying around, and the theories range from being "part of the spray operations" to "homeland security".
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That fact remains people are observing old bombers/vintage aircraft flying in their areas. Granted, it is airshow season, and perhaps (even likely) this is the reason for the vintage plane sightings. Although, I've seen no bi-planes, or other vintage aircraft. Just the old bombers.

Anyway, I never ment to imply these were part of the spray ops. In fact I stated as such in my reply to Lulu. I just thought it was interesting that several posters had been noticing them lately in their areas. Thought it would be good to see how widespread this was being observed, and that perhaps we could conclude why they were suddendly being sighted.
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re>"part of the spray operations" to "homeland security".
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Or airshows? Who knows. Fact is THEY ARE THERE.

Perhaps this was an inappropriate topic for posting?? Or perhaps the sightings will increase beyond fall and into winter, well past the airshow season. Can't say for now. Just thought it an appropriate idea to keep our eyes peeled for anything unusual. No?

Out.

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 06-18-2002 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, White Skyz, it is a very appropriate topic. Don't let the debunker comments deter you from self-expression. Thanks BTW for the nice comments about my site. It is pretty much complete, except to update a few things occasionally. I will be starting a second web site this summer, now that I have some time off from school.

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White_Skyz
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24 posts, May 2002

posted 06-18-2002 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again Lulu,

Yeah, I thought it was a "legit" topic for observation anyway.

BTW - On your site, under "The agenda" link, is that a real satellite image? I mean was the picture of that "swirl" trail a real sat photo? Pretty wild flying if that came from a plane. Incredible.

Also notice you have a photo from the new Denver Airport. Pretty ominous stuff. The signs are all around us, are they not?

Cheers. - White_Skyz

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Lulu
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posted 06-18-2002 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very legit White Skyz.

"The Agenda" ~
http://terkelowna.tripod.com/chemtrails/

More discussion about the (real) satellite picture in question can be found in Chemtrails..."Spiral Trail" ~
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001036.html

More NWO in Denver pg 1 ~
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/nwodenver.html

pg 2 ~ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/nwodenver2.html

The KSEO 4/26/96 Interview with Alex Christopher ~ http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html

The writing is, as they say White Skyz, on the wall.

G=Generate?

Webster's 4th: 1.to produce (offspring); beget; procreate.

Ties in with the Reptilian (Illuminati) obsession with bloodline ~ "blue blood"...




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PHANTOM911
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341 posts, Oct 2001

posted 06-19-2002 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHANTOM911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White_Skyz,
The post above was a quote from Pacer at another site with my comment being the last paragraph. In your first post you did say vintage planes and were not specific about the bombers. Just curious, are these vintage planes flying at altitudes that allow for their accurate identification?
PEACE

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White_Skyz
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24 posts, May 2002

posted 06-19-2002 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Phantom,

Thanks for clarifying re "Pacer". (And if they have a show at the airport from which I saw the bomber, I'll be sure to pop in and take a look around.)
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> are these vintage planes flying at altitudes that allow for their accurate identification?
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Yes..and no. Can definilty tell you what make/model they are if I had a reference chart. As far as the ID number on the tail/fuselage. Not quite close enough. I've seen 2 in the last 2 weeks, both identical. Perhaps the same craft, dunno. It just struck me as odd that the ones I saw were perhaps identical to the ones Padawan was seeing in Canada. Quote: "Padawan-L says: "I, too have been seeing vintage aircraft....for at least a couple of months. They look like highly polished old war bombers"

The ones I saw were "highly polished old war bombers". No doubt aboout it.

Cheers. - White_Skyz

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White_Skyz
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posted 06-19-2002 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White_Skyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting the photo I mentioned Lulu. Quite amazing. But then little surprises me these days it seems. Guess thats why I'm still searchin for answers. Chemtrails are just one of the many "secrets" of that need to be outted. So many hidden agendas, so little time...

Best to ya. - White_Skyz

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Moose
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24 posts, Jan 2001

posted 08-04-2002 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/S19911.html
(see description of older military plane towards end of report)

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Lulu
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posted 08-04-2002 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting piece of the growing puzzle Moose...thanks!

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This lasted for about forty seconds.Immediately after these seperate sightings, the cloud increased to its darkest color and we sighted a silver boomarang, vee shaped object heading east-southeast.,it was moving much slower than the rest,it seemed to have sqared off wings at the ends,the size was about 1/and 1/2 times bigger than a 747 airplane,again all objects had no sounds,for the next couple off minutes nothing appeared ,where it came from i am not sure, but heading in the same direction as the v object ,an older military plane which had those pontoon type ends on the wings ,the wings were straight.,seemed to be following the v, let me also state it was an extremly wide v, dusk was now stating to set in,and it seemed now the so called cloud was almost gone, these were not off this earth. as my ! wife sta ted to me this was some type off portal, or cloking devise , on this planet no one has this tech. yet.

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