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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-21-2001 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I hope you can understand what I am trying to explain. This is big!

This is the most significant change in the chemtrails I have seen in the last two years.
I have stated several times the blue/gray haze is getting thicker. Also as of late I have talked about the “veil” that covers the sky at times, and seems to move like an apparition.

For the past three days there have been no con/chemtrails over this portion of N. Calif. (Lake Co.), none, not even commercial airliners.
Today started out clear, nothing anywhere except blue sky and the haze. Weird part now.

The sky overhead is being filled with very normal looking clouds marching in a straight line on the eastern horizon, western horizon, and right down the middle of the county.
In the southern sky, 45 degrees above the horizon and extending in a line to the eastern and western horizon the clouds are beginning life as a thin, small cotton thread that quickly grows to a large cotton ball with the torn or wispy edges. This cotton ball is surrounded by the veil and very quickly grows to a large puffy, enlongated cloud with a dark gray bottom. Looks very real.
Three of us watched a one of these clouds began to grow right above us. It grew quickly while at the same time descending rapidly, like it was gaining weight. This cloud was pink, green, and blue.
I am trying to video some of this, hope it works ok.

I have never seen anything like this. Not a chemtrail or contrail anywhere, and except for local low level planes, not a plane to be seen anywhere.
In closing I will add this. The whole area has a very surreal look to it. NO definition to the background a true 2D effect today.
Something has changed in a major way. This is way over the top. David

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-21-2001 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes David, I agree with you 1,000%!!! I have "caught" these clouds on film and will be getting them developed and hopefully, my colleague IZAKOVIC will want to put them on his site on my chem pic pages at DS-4. I'm so glad you brought this up as I have been just waiting for someone else to mention this as I felt like it was so bizarre it would just seem "too much"! What I want to mention is this...The "change" as you,ve mentioned is here in NW Louisiana as well and my own personal assessment of the situation is that it seems either that we now have 2 skies, not meeting half and half, and joing in the middle, I mean, literally one sky that we are viewing and another above that one! I have always been an avid sky-watcher because of my ufo interest and I look up, on and off all day and most of the nite at intervals...somethings VERY WRONG folks!! I no longer "see" chemplanes or even regular air traffic at all...nothing...but HEAR planes, numerous planes all day!! Some sound quite low and right over-head, yet NO visual! With the exception of a stray lil piper-cub, or helicopter...nothing else. What in the heck is up with that? When this all started, could easily see chemplanes and commercial but could usually not HEAR the chemplanes...now it is exactly opposite! It is so CREEPY! The "neon" colors to the sky and clouds toward evening that cast a "surrealistic" hue to everything is very prevalent now. When I look through binnoculars when the hues are like that, everything appears "flat" and 2D as you mentioned David. Something is definitely wrong or changing...as I started typing this, my head started to get a "buzzing" going on, wooziness, and ears ringing so loud, my head feels like it wants to explode! I have never felt this way before?? I actually feel "claustrophobic" when outside, the sky dosen't "feel" right to me...and the strange coloration of faded blue with a "tinge" everyday...the tinge is weird colored, like red-beige-gray dealy and you have to squint to see it sometimes and I also have seen those "sprouting" clouds here...start out from practically nothing lil puff and grow just like that into cloud...Now I really get weird on ya...About a week before this "new sky scenario" started, I could swear I was seeing "old" planes fly over, like vintage WW2 style, like out of that eara??? Could those "dummies" at Brookhaven with that particle accelerator possibly have caused a "rip" in spce-time continuum or whatever, or HAARP? Things are definitely not "right"! Blessings, Joanne ^j^ ??? There is one commercial plane that always flies over at 9 everynite...haven't "seen" it lately anymore either...???

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-21-2001 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delphi/ First I want to tell you how good it is to see your name attached to the boards.
Would not be the same without you.

I agree with what you are saying also.

Let me tell you a story that happened on my recent fishing trip.
With me I took an old gentleman recluse friend of mine. It was his 75th birthday. This fellow is right out of the pages of outdoor life magazine. Rail thin, wrinkled leather skin, bright alert blue eyes, sharp as a tack. Worn out old cowboy hat on his head. Frank has been there and done that. Lumberjack,cowboy in wyo. and montana, ranch hand. All over the U.S. and S.America. Always outdoors, never worked indoors.
He is very quiet, speaking only to say something, not one for polite conversation.
The day was clear of chemtrails or contrails.
Blue sky, haze on the horizon.

I noticed Frank looking around all the time, checking the sky and surrounding areas, but I did not say a thing.
He turns to me and says "Dave, what's wrong with the air? The sky don't look real no more,the mountains look flat like.(no 3D)
Something has change it all,nothing is the same. It just don't feel natural no more, and the weather ain't the same, the woods ain't the same".

Now bear in mind Frank has no tv, only listens to a radio once in a blue moon.
He lives a solitary and isolated life in the woods, preferring nature to man.
I find his statement to me very profound indeed.

"Something wicked this way comes". And soon.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-21-2001 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God, That story was amazing David!!!! More and more, I wonder if our very "reality" is being "tampered" with, manipulated, changed??? What a freightening thought?? Thanx for sharing the above...Bless the ole buggers heart....With "age" does come wisdom....at least I have that to look forward to....I HOPE! "Something Wicked This Way Comes" for sure, it seems!!! ^j^ ^j^ Jo I also wonder if we are having a "terra-forming" process going on....so much is changing...for who...for what??? And the chemplanes sure act "strange"! J.?????

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jackcipher
Senior Member


47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-22-2001 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THREE WORDS,SAME EVIL HERE........JS.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-22-2001 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David...Have your clouds got flat bottoms??We get a parade of marching clouds same place exactly everytime and they have flat bottoms,alot of the time they are dark gray on the bottom...Sometimes not but always flat it seems. They really do need to spend more time on perfecting the look.Pink clouds,flat bottom clouds,clouds with black lines just don't cut the mustard.Try white you jerks.

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-22-2001 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes fellow chemster, flat gray bottoms marching in a line like nice little AIRFARCE/NAVY hybred siblings....

"march along you little bums, created by the government scums, float along on the polluted air saying look at me if you dare. Your day will come, oh yes it will, bet on it you government scum".

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-22-2001 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on D...perhaps these evil little marchers are nothing more than holograms.They
are so identical unlike Gods beautiful work.
Great poem there D....Now go over and leave one in spirit matters

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 07-22-2001 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto in Texas! We have the same 2D dome over us and we have the same clouds forming out of other "clouds", and then they all disappear. Yesterday I was so excited because from my back windows I can see Lake Buchanan, and it appeared a dark gray-blue, which is it's appearance when rain clouds are above it...no brass ring...there wasn't a cloud anywhere in the sky. RATZ!!! We need rain SOOOO BADLY!! Everything is drying up and the atmosphere seems like it's pressing on you when outdoors. The temps are 100 degrees plus, and the heat index is always higher than the temp. We're burning alive! No one wants to go outside unless it's absolutely necessary.

I've had the same weird inability to see the planes I keep hearing overhead. And we're seeing older model aircraft, too. I just thought it was the Confederate Air Force club that has a base nearby, but who knows??

I really think there is a dome of reflective material on which a "picture" of the sky and the clouds is being projected, and we are being shielded from what's REALLY going on above us... ...just a theory...

MollyGainYa, with love

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UnHappyTrailsToUs
UntilWeMeetAgain...

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-22-2001 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MGY...we are getting vintage planes here too!Weird.Could this just be coincidence do you suppose?Perhaps they are planes to locate us all by and look inconspicuious.Who knows!

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amber
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uk
445 posts, May 2001

posted 07-22-2001 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MollyG...i agree with you...I have the feeling too that we are being shielded from something....did you read my post on my recurring dream...that Delphi shared?
Also all this talk of pink skies reminded me of Mars...there is a news item i heard briefly, but can't find text at the moment...about a storm on Mars at the moment...that has created 'global warming' on Mars...but this will soon reverse and Mars will go into a 'nuclear winter'!!!!Am i dreaming this? I know I am miss paranoid (Thermit ) but this sounds very suspicious...what is the new 'cloud screen' around Mars hiding, I wonder?
Next, the scalar thing...I haven't had time to read Chem's links yet...but bearing in mind the WWtwo planes being mentioned....i read this just now in a book called 'Psychic Warfare. Fact or Fiction?'

' This is exciting, for it means that tesla stress waves can affect either space or timeindividually, or both space and time simultaneously, or even oscillate back and forth between primarily affecting time and primarily affecting space.
.....Another wild characteristic of the tesla wave is that it can affect the rate of flow of time itself: hence it can affect or change every other field - including the gravatational field- that exists in time flow. It can also affect all universal constraints, the mass of an object , the inertia of a body, and the mind and thoughts as well. All of these exist in a flow of time, and they are affected if the stream in which they exist is affected.'

So it appears that scalar waves can affect time and our minds!!!

Two skies? - The flow of time shifting back and forth? UFO's? Orbs? Chems? Urgency of NWO - as if they know what is coming?

oops... and i nearly forgot....'unexpected' agreement between Russia and Us on the star wars shield....now you know to worry!!!

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padawan-learner
Senior Member

Canada
105 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-22-2001 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for padawan-learner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I said my good-byes already, but I would be doing a disservice by not reporting this. I, too have been seeing vintage aircraft....for at least a couple of months. They look like highly polished old war bombers.

For the most part, as well, my sky looks exactly as like you're all describing in your parts. What does it all mean. I just don't know.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-22-2001 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad you're still here Pad..Don't go. That is strange that all these aircraft are showing up everywhere.Anybody else seeing this?

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-22-2001 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, I just realised I been making boo-boos in my posts...saying I never see chemplanes anymore...actually, all day I hear them but don't see them but at between 6 and 7 p.m. every evening, I finally see them going "home" always on an exact N East heading...many times 20 or more will go by in that hour and they are never spraying by then, (their dirty work already done, I guess), but they are definitely the various chemplanes we've been seein...in the evening when we finally "see" them, can hardly "hear" them...I don't know what made me post that wrong originally....uh, oh Mind control!!?? Really, that's weird the way I didn't "remember" to tell it right??? Love all, Jo ^j^

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-23-2001 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On October 11, 2000 about 8:00 pm, I was in my car. It was dark, and the sky was clear. Moon near full, lots of stars. I came to a stop sign, and looking to the right, (SSE) I saw what appeared to be a tear in the very fabric of the sky. It was light on the other side...

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-23-2001 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few years back...can't exactly remember what year it was, I had the experience of seeing a very dark line in the sky. I stood and watched this line for a long time. It moved and changed position numerous times but it didn't disappear or go away. I finally decided to take some pictures but they didn't show anything too exciting. Perhaps a video camera would have worked better.
The best way I could describe this was like a tear or rip in the sky. It was really incredible and eerie.
I've also noticed an unusual almost unreal look to the clouds here lately... like they've been painted. Had a real scary looking cloud in the sky here yesterday. Almost a tornado look to it.

Padawan... I hope you'll hang around here still....we need your input and observations from Canada. Everyone is needed here.

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-25-2001 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's MY crazy dream I had in the past years ago.
I was in my old neighborhood where I grew up, and I look up and see a crack open up in the sky, and a bus coming thru it. I start to panic because I know I am supposed to get on that bus, but it is winter and the snow is up to my knees which prevents me from running towards it quickly.I woke up at that point.
I have seen vintage planes,the double winged, open cockpit kind. I didn't think anything of it, because the airport was nearby. I also mentioned on this board in the past, that I saw an airplane, a small 2-6 seater,, slowly descend towards the ground as if it were a glider,,, (which it wasn't) and cars on the thruway were stopping to see the inevitable crash of this plane onto someones rooftop.The plane STOPPED in mid air and just hung there, motionless.NO propulsion from the bottom of this regular looking airplane,to keep it up.This was about 5-6 years ago.I didn't get to see how it got itself out of that predicament, because I was getting onto the oncoming traffic of the thruway at the time.
I've been hearing but not seeing planes all the time now, tho I thought it was due to the white-out haze that they must have been above.
I have been noticing the surreal look of the sky and clouds for quite a while now,like it is my eyes losing their depth perception or something,, like I am not seeing in 3D anymore, more like 2D.We also have the 1/2 n'1/2 sky here in Connecticut too, and the weird grey-bottomed marching soldier clouds.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-26-2001 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a little phone talk with David Sunday evening and he told me what he saw. I went to sleep early and awoke before dawn on the west shore of Lake Tahoe (california)
The sky was white hazed "smoked" with ghost like horizonal bands of anti light, slightly black transient, quickly appearing and dissapearing moveing thin bands.
There was a dirty yellowish tinge to the horizon. I had a view of most all the lake.
Drinking my morning coffee with friends, the "clouldlets" started to appear "out of thick air" right in front of us. Pop~ PoP they grew, shrank,and morphed into various shapes, some redisolved, some grew bigger. Certain areas of the sky were more active in promoting "cloud formation" than others.
We went for a boat ride and watched them appear and dissappear. Then we got on our trail bikes and climbed up to the tops of the western mountains~ by the time we stopped at the top of the first peak, the sky was full of large cumulus like "clouds" with flat black bottoms, orangeish lower middles and white amorphous tops. Many of them had gasseous streaks associated with them around the sides and somewhat intermingled into them, or falling in streams from them. Jet sounds were "IN THEM" yet no jets were seen anywhere in the skys over the area i traveled for friday, saterday, sunday, and monday until 830PM monday eve in Susanville California. BUT the clouds made jet sounds almost constantly.
Monday evening as the sun set from 6PM till 8 PM these "clouds" cast black beams away from the sun (at first downward then later upward as the sun set) These were not shadows as they started at the edge of the cloud opposite the sun and decreased in blackness the further they got from the cloud.
Two dissapating trailling jets were heading north over Susanville at dark~ the only jets i saw in 4 days traveling outdoors.

I did see clouds formed "from thin air" in May of 1999 twice, and a few other rare times since.
Today is extreamely "smokey" here on the pristine oregon coast and we had an F`16 fly over low at 1030 AM
we are in the middle of a war that no one seems to know is ongoing

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mark sky on 07-26-2001]

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-26-2001 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howdy mark, it is truly strange isn't it.
We have had almost no air traffic visible here in my area for the past week. Jet noise once in awhile. Seen three jets in the past 5 days each low and trailing a short, wide cloud, that soon disappeared.
Today and yesterday, small cloudlets growing to the north and east. The air is so thick is hard to catch your breath. mark, standing on the north shore of the lake looking south, no detail of the large mountain, or the smaller backround hills can be seen.
Just dark cardboard cutouts with flat 2D backdrop.
The only planes visible are local low level flights coming and going to the small airport.
The atmosphere is charged to full, only spraying to maintain levels of mix or fill in weak spots?
The yellowish thick layer is above the mountain tops and extends to about 35-45 degrees above the horizons.

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-26-2001 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


[Edited 3 times, lastly by David on 07-26-2001]

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-26-2001 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same scenario here D..I've dubbed those clouds 'Lizard Clouds'...The cloudlets were so compact it gave that bubbled look of lizard skin..Appropriate...Took photos of them and will post in spirit matters soon.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-27-2001 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cross linked http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=4101.topic

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-27-2001 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tell ya, watch this blue/gray ground haze. it is seperate from the cloud forming white floating ghost like veil. Daily this stuff grows thicker and thicker. So thick now it looks like a forest fire. Odd smells getting worse, acetone,musty mouse like smell, burned plastic.
This whole thing is beginning to progress at a very rapid rate. Hang on, the ride is going to get very rough.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-27-2001 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now D...How the heck do you know what a musty mouse smells like? What are you doing in your spare time down inthat basement?

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-27-2001 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday the sky here was nightmarish. It rained in the AM, after it stopped raining I noticed how bad the clouds looked. They were low, dark grey, with a strange ripple effect, similar to snow clouds. (Temp 90, humidity 95%.) As the day progressed, it began to "clear" to reveal supercooled altostratus?, cirrus aviaticus, extremely low black puffs of clouds, regular cumulus rain clouds, Chemtrails in every size, shape, direction, criss-crossing the washed out sky. Multicolored clouds- with purple, green and blue passing near the sun. By late afternoon the sun was glowing white through the chemhaze, with a corona and a sun dog.

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...these "clouds" cast black beams away from the sun (at first downward then later upward as the sun set) These were not shadows as they started at the edge of the cloud opposite the sun and decreased in blackness the further they got from the cloud.

Mark Sky- I have noticed this for a couple of months. Almost every Sunday. I haven't known how to describe this!

And out of the nightmarish sky flew a vintage-looking plane. It was flying so slowly over my house that I wondered how it could stay aloft? When it got past my house it revved up the engine and flew away.

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