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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-01-2002 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in Orlando Florida, where there has been an abundance of Chemtrailing going on for some time now.

For the past three months I have been experiencing a recurring rash exactly like the rash being reported by many people in several different states. This rash starts out as a sting however once the slightest scratch is applied red bumps swell up and the itching becomes very, very, intense.

This rash spreads with every scratching session. Mostly around my elbows, belt line, knees, extending down my arms from my armpits, circling around to my back down onto my butt, moving from my upper thigh down my legs and encircling them.

I have endured treatments with anti-biotic, cortisone, and anti-itch pills. Today I am seemingly cured, but, I have thought this before only to have the rash come back. It is quite distressing and even painful. Keeping me awake at night and harassing me wherever I am. This rash, is like a demon sent to afflict me.

I wonder if there is a connection between the Chemtrails and my rash? When will we ever find out what the Government is doing up there? And then, there’s the second tower collapsing before the first one struck – the anthrax riddle – President Bush watching on television the first tower being struck hours before the event was televised – Enron and the military – the oil thing – the drug thing - the covering-up of information by the officials in Washington DC – the monopoly media’s disgraceful lying and spreading of disinformation – the destruction of America’s historical majority peoples political advantage – Waco – the OKC Murrah Bldg. CIA bombing – massive and unchecked immigration – handed-out citizenship - the Nuremberg like trial of Milosevic – America going after the oilfields in the Caspian Sea area and (Russian) Georgia – Israel going after the oil in the middle east - etc., etc., etc..

Is it any wonder I have a rash? I wonder why so many more of us don’t have rashes?

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-01-2002 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule... you have my sympathies with the rash symtoms you've been experiencing. For years after I had my first child I experienced eczema on my hands with the itchy, scratchy symtoms that drove me nuts. Of course I used medication on them and have had to continue using the cream from time to time even to this day.

On the Art Bell show the other night I heard him talk about a man who had some rash symptoms along with a high fever. The rash eventually started to ooze small drops of blood even. This man was in the hospital for a couple of weeks before things took a turn for the worse and he finally died.

Now this isn't meant to alarm anyone and perhaps there is no connection to the rash this deceased man had and the one that's being experienced by some of the school kids in this nation... it does call for extra caution and observation I would think.

A couple of things that could be worth trying during these rash outbreaks might be collodial silver used externally and/or maybe grapefruit seed extract taken internally only. I haven't heard of anyone trying these two remedies for this rash but they might be worth experimenting with. Both of these substances are suppose to be useful for various viruses.

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XtromatriX
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Baltimore MD
14 posts, Feb 2002

posted 03-01-2002 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XtromatriX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule, I'm sorry that you have to go through the pain of your rash, and I'm sure it must be even worse mentaly seeing as how it could be a result of Chemtrails or something the government is doing or is allowing to hapen. It's one thing to be ill or have a health problem just by chance, but it angers me to know that the powers that be have no problem inflicting ill health on it's own people. All of the things you mentioned in your post is more than enough to let people know that we as a nation have been coned by those who we elect to protect us and look out for our best interest. I just think about how the CIA was responsible for putting crack cocain in black low income areas, someone within the CIA came out and spoke the truth about this, the srtory lasted for a few days off and on but you hear nothing about it now. But yet and still you hear our government talking about this so called "War On Drugs". We get sprayed with chemtrails every day and it sickens me to look up at the sky and be reminded that somebody has an agenda and whoever it is could care LESS about my health or yours. I hope your rash is cured and I hope it stays away. It's a shame we have this kind of thing going on in this country, It's a DAMN shame.

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David Morton
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138 posts, Oct 2001

posted 03-01-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Morton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule---
I have such a rash but it is not nearly as serious as yours. The idea that it could be coming from chemtrail spraying is repugnant to me.
Here in South Jersey, we have been chemtrail free for about a week, I guess. I figure they are just sitting on the ground, tanked up, waiting to fly.
Dave

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afraidofsunlight
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100 posts, Jan 2001

posted 03-01-2002 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for afraidofsunlight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
Hope all is well,
if not,and since we need alot of answer's.
Perhap's you could try Colloidal silver.

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-02-2002 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catnip,

Thank you for your concern and understanding. It is distressing to know it is more than possible that we are being doused with something that must be nothing but determental to our health, AND TO THE HEALTH OF OUR LITTLE CHILDREN.

Why else would there be so many obstacles placed in our way of knowing what it is the government is doing up there?

Thanks for writing Catnip. Since I am new to this board I am just now learning my way around, I hope to run into you again around here somewhere.

I hope your eczema is under control, you have my empathy.

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-02-2002 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
XtromatriX,

You, are so on target with your post. It is more than anger that I feel as relating to our present (and past) government and its conduct. More like angiush.

Concerning the historic American minority peoples in America, more than just the 'crack' issue has caught my eye.

After much study and thought I am determined the English and American scientific communities have to bear the responsibility for AIDS in Africa, America, and the world. For, I am convinced the virus is man made and made with a purpose, a deadly purpose.

Besides teaching the historic American minority in America to hate white people, something we can thank the politicians, the monopoly media's, and Hollywood for, I think the American government has sought to totally disorient the minority peoples in America. Seeking to destroy the people in more ways than one, AIDS, being one way, self destruction being another way, and maybe enticing hatred so that white people in time revolt against them because of the harm they do to white people.

All of this like Chemtrails, is something being proliferated onto us and programmed into us by a corrupted and greedy government. All of it is destructive to all of us.

Thank you for posting.

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-02-2002 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David Morton,

Here in Orlando the Trailing has been very regular and dense. However today, there did seem to be a break in the action.

I must ask you David, do you really feel comfortable living in New Jersey. That area seems to be a epicenter for turbulence. Do you have any little children? Have you thought about relocating?

Thank you for writing David.

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-02-2002 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
afraidofsunlight,

From what I have heard and read on Jeff Rense's website Colloidal silver is illegal to sell in America. Do you know something I might should know?

Thanks for writing AOSL.

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-04-2002 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule... unless I'm mistaken Colloidal silver is still legal to buy...it's just that the FDA is not allowed to tell consumers of it's health benefits.. I've seen a book on the Rense site before that goes into the explaination about this and I would have bought that book if it wasn't so expensive.

I bought my bottle of CS from the local health food store and it's still available there. From time to time I've sprayed the silver on my hands when the eczema breaks out and it seems to help control it somewhat. However, I found it very drying to use on my hands but then again the eczema is very drying on my hands to begin with.

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-05-2002 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catnip, I just read: 'Children's Mystery Rashes Linked To EMFs?' on Jeff's site. It makes sense to me. I, do spend a lot of time on the computer, in front of the microwave, in front of the big-screen.

I, will try to get some CS at the local health store; I've never been in there, maybe they do have it. Maybe it could be helpful with my EMF, or whatever it is, rather Chemtrails or not.

Also, there is a reasonable explanation for Chemtrails given in a column listed on Jeff's site. As something to combat global warmimg, maybe, still there are health issues involved.

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-05-2002 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule... You've probably read my last thread about the psychosomatic theory in the school kids... I still have a bit of trouble with the EMF and computer screen theory.

For one... as I've stated these kids aren't in front of a computer screen enough hours in a day...and also...I've heard that during the weekends when the kids are away from school the rash disappears.
Another problem I have is all the different areas that have been reporting this problem...it's not just one school.

It would be real intersting if someone could do a bit of comparison...... Like, which towns have had rashes in schools and do these towns have a massive chemtrail spraying program currently in effect.

Here locally I heard a story about a school in this area closing for a couple of days due to a strange odor making kids and teachers sick with nausea and headaches... I've been trying to listen to the news for a follow up story but the only thing I heard tonight was another story about a huge tumble weed clean up project being done by volunteers. Got to hand it to the news reporters around here.

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amber
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uk
445 posts, May 2001

posted 03-05-2002 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this may seem a little way out but that story about the odour reminded me of a story that appeared over here last week: That scientists have developed a 'weapon' to use against unruly crowds - they have used a combination of chemicals to produce a smell that is so obnoxious that it makes the crowd sick and, therefore, disperse!

About the rash; when my son was young I refused to allow him to have the MMR jabs because of my worries about pumping his body with toxins and compromising his immune system - a decision I didn't take lightly. When he was eight, I was moving to another country, my doctor 'bullied' me into letting him have the MMR jabs. Within three days he developed the red lace type rash that is being reported in your schools, and also developed swollen joints - hands, knees, ankles and elbows. The doctor wouldn't tell me what was wrong with him, as I kept taking him back repeatedly over a four week period. As I sat there and cried in front of the doctor..he too cried...I got the feeling he KNEW my son's condition was connected to the jab but COULD NOT admit it! I took my son to an acupuncturist, who was alarmed at the reaction to the vaccine, but wasn't surprised...he instantly improved and recovered. Two years later I met a woman whose daughter went to the same school as my son...I got talking about this illness..never mentioning the jab...it turned out her daughter had had her jab late, like my son, and developed the same illness that her doctor refused to name!! She made the connection between the jab and illness without my doing so!!!
What I noticed is that he would get better...I would send him to school...go to pick him up and find him hobbling out of school, unable to walk with the swollen joints and the rash would be back...off school...get better...back to school...bad again. Of course this could have been due to the exertion of being in school...who knows?
But in the USA schools case...if this were a mystery novel....you would have to look at what is common to the schools - as the children get better when away from the school...are the children all below a certain age? Do they receive something like free school milk (our schools used to)Do they eat meals prepared on the premises? There was a link on Orbit about donated books - a Saudi donated thousands of books to US schools about Islam...books could carry a substance that could cause allergic reactions...Could the children being immunised in an obscure way?...through the drinking water? Air-con? Any ideas?

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amber
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uk
445 posts, May 2001

posted 03-05-2002 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found this on Rense:

Children's Mystery Rashes
Linked To EMFs?
From Heather Morin
3-4-2

Jeff,

I'm not a doctor but check out the url's below and make the connections for yourself. You posted one article suggesting the epidemic of rashes could be caused by chemtrails, but chemtrails would not manifest symptoms only within the schools. I think the military is testing electromagnetic frequencies on the schools and sitting back to wait for results. Perhaps if you were to post this as a "hypothesis" then doctors and experts could write in to validate it or refute it as a workable answer to the rashes in all those elementary schools. Perhaps all the schools in question have radio/cell towers nearby or some other common "electrical" connection.

Thanks. Heather Morin morinheather@hotmail.com


From http://noradcorp.com/emfs101.htm
(speaks about electrical hypersensitivity causing rashes)

Symptoms of Electrosensitivity/Electrostress

The environmental illness is sometimes termed electrostress or technostress, electrosensitivity or electric allergy. Patients may comment on minor, annoying symptoms or they may be severely debilitated.

EMF/RFR exposures can interfere with sleep, work and normal life. What kinds of symptoms might a physician hear from a patient?

The most common complaints are: headaches, dizziness and nausea; failing memory, confusion and spatial disorientation; pain and burning feeling in the eyes; parched, thirsty or dry feeling that is not quenched with drinking; ringing in the ears (tinnitus or similar chronic ear-noise); irregular heartbeat and palpitations (shaky stressed feeling); fatigue or exhaustion; insominia and sleep difficulties; skin rashes and sunburn-like redness and swelling of face and neck; burning or tingling of face and extremities and light sensitivity.

Symptoms quickly improve when away from EMF/RFR sources, particularly when the patient moves away from computers, interior fluorescent lighting, transformers, wireless antenna exposures, cell phones and cordless phones, appliances and out of proximity to freeways, electrical substations and power lines, airports, military bases and doppler or other radar installations. All these are potential sources of higher than normal EMF/RFR exposure.

Symptoms return very quickly on returning to the original environment. Over time, it appears that sensitivity is increased to smaller and smaller EMF/RFR exposures.
http://www.sfsu.edu/~holistic/whatsnew

and finally, a site by Dr. Suzuki: http://www.islandnet.com/~emf/suzuki.html


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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-07-2002 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catnip, that itching has been coming back these past few days, not as bad as before but then it started out in the beginning almost exactly like what I am experiencing now. Dread.

I have contributed commentary to many a Bulletin Board over the last ten years, often my comments were not welcomed, I have even had my life threatened. I wonder sometimes...

In the other posts I didn't mention the ringing in my ears. Constant, sometimes more shrill, sometimes louder. What is going on, I'd like to know.

Grasping at straws?

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Mule
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Orlando FL Orange
8 posts, Mar 2002

posted 03-07-2002 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amber, I really think the 'shots' we got back in the fifties were safe, helpful, real disease prevention.

Today, I am not so sure, not at all. I too would be reluctant to have a loved one vaccinated today. There is nothing I can tell you.

Today instead of Bears and Wolves to fear we have a Government, that should be feared. There are well advised people who do insist the New World Order has an agenda that demands a reduction in the world's human population. Some estimates range in the billions.

Also, as we here in America see our human population increased by massive legal and illegal immigration; as well we are entering a time of drought. The supply of fresh water in America is an item.

Is there anything about America today that is not darkly veiled?

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-07-2002 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule...... very sorry to hear that your symptoms appear to be coming back... If you had a chance to read the thread posted by Amber in this discussion you'll notice that one of the symptoms of EMF is a ringing in the ears.

I hope you had the opportunity to find some colloidal silver somewhere locally so you can try and see if it helps.

I've got a few questions about your particular rash case...just a few things I've been thinking that might help you to figure out what's causing your symptoms.

Do you have a slight fever accompanying this rash?

You mentioned that you use a computer on your job... Do you happen to work at a school or some other government office?

Do you know if anyone else working at the same place you work is experiencing any rashes? Or even any other symptoms you have.

Can you remember approximately the time that you first started having this problem? And if something new has been added to your place of employment? Like maybe a new air filter system, a new heat or air conditioning system? The same could be asked about your home...where you live...

To give you an example of something I've noticed in some indoor environments.
Almost every time I visit my sister-in-law I have a horrible time with my eyes drying out and getting very irritated and/or filming up so bad it's almost impossible to keep my eyes open. Using eye drops doesn't help much. She uses a certain device to help rid her home of dust since she has a lot of allergies.

My eyes will also film up while driving in a car for long distances...something in the air conditioner or heat system or even just the dry air causes my eyes to film and blur my vision. This is really annoying. Even closing my eyes to rest them for a while doesn't give much relief.

Tonight I finally heard an update about the school with the strange odor. The officials ran their tests and couldn't find out what was causing the problem. Supposedly it wasn't any pesticides though. The did say that they would be watching those particular people who were experiencing the bad symptoms.


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CaliforniaBreeze
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posted 03-08-2002 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaliforniaBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear all this..I just wanted to put my observations in...I developed a skin problem diagnosed as Lichen Planis..It escalated and I am at what I hope is the end of it...2 years later... I first noticed chemtrails here in Redding, Ca 3 yrs ago...There have been a lot of complaints of skin rashes and flu symptoms..As an OTR Driver I also observed Chemtrails everywhere I traveled....About Feb 26 or the day they aired something about Chemtrails on Fox..they quit spraying but today..3-8-02 they are back in full force....I will join any group going straight to the government demanding answers...I want to know why we are being sprayed!!! A blob of something also landed on our handrail...

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Nirvana
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180 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-08-2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nirvana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amber, it's unfortunately late, but some say the best course of action with MMR is to give the M-M-R vaccines individually spaced one year apart. Even the English doctor who first pointed out the dangers of the MMR vaccine says this is better. Maybe you can help others. I know a woman who's one year old baby became autistic within one month of his MMR vaccine. She says he was a normal happy baby who would look you in the eye and smile up to that point.

In regards to EMF and the rash. These symptoms can be caused by aluminum oxide and/or barium stearate too. It's widely thought that these can be primary spray particles. I think there is something to the EMF theory too though.

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-08-2002 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
California.... Welcome to the discussion board. It's always interesting to see what particular topics connected with the chemtrail issue causes folks to get involved and become more vocal and active.
I have to admit that coming down with a rash and suspecting them of being connected with the spraying operations would certainly be a good motivator.

Have to agree with Nirvana too... just having this aluminum and barium floating in the air and landing on our skin is perhaps enough in itself to cause rashes in people that are sensitive. Now if we take that one step further...we all realize that we're breathing this stuff in every day so basically we're getting coated inside and out with this c@#$... and then when you add to that the effects of electro magnetic pollution and EMFs which are becoming more prevalent it's a wonder we're not all lighting up like light bulbs. Talk about being electrically conductive!
Then again... maybe that's the plan for some of us...fill our bodies with metallic substances and then apply the electrical voltage and whamo!... our hearts can't take it and we basically short out. Just a thought.

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BOB B
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307 posts, Jan 2002

posted 03-31-2002 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BOB B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damned, I got 'yalls rash bad, any cure for it??I seem to have aquired a similar rash as to the one which has been described here, think i might have poison oak exposure though, itches like it....as for Catnips theory about filling us full of conductive metals and then zapping us, its possible, Ive stated this as a theory before somewhere on this board

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WatermelonSugar
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posted 04-12-2002 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WatermelonSugar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mule, I started with exactly the same rash around Thanksgiving. I was working in an insurance agency, handling large amounts of high demonination currency. Then in the beginning of December, I went to visit my ailing parents in Orlando. I broke out worse than ever there.

I have the exact symptoms you do, the ras is in the same locations, and I have undergone similar treatments by the most highly respected dermatologist in my area.

It's worsening, again, and I'm at the end of my rope, with this Job-like affliction. This has been going on for FIVE MONTHS. I can't take the itching, the pain, the interrupted sleep any longer.

What have you done for diagnosis or reflief since you last posted?

Anxiously awaiting a response,

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MrNuke
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Hello Everyone,

I'm a new member and wanted to let you guys know this unusual rash has been incubating in the population for several years now. There are at least four web sites that have been set up over the past few years to offer support to those affected. I'll list them here for those who want to do further reading. Some of this material is highly disturbing. Also, remmeber many chronic diseases...such as Lyme's Disease start out with a rash that goes away. If you are uncomfortable with the idea of parasites, do not view these pages. However, if you choose to read these sites, you will find a very disturbing pattern that emerges...American doctors will not admit to the existence of parasites. Despite patients...including myself...taking live specimens to doctors...they ignore them, and dignose you as having Delusions of Parasitosis. The CDC itself admits that tens of millions of Americans have parasites, yet hundreds of stories that have been posted on these sites, the doctors will always say the patient is crazy...most of the time they do not even take tests or examine your skin. Hundreds...if not thousands...of calls and letters have been sent to the CDC with no avail. Here are the sites that deal with mysterious rashes. Chemtrails have been mentioned several times as a possible cause.
I find it strange that Americans are never treated for parasites even though we are supposed to treat our dogs, cats, horses, and farm animals...which all harbor parasites that can infect humans. The fact that humans can catch parasites quite easily is another subject that is never mentioned in the media or anywhere else. The Japanese actually planned to release fleas with bubonic plague in WWII, but they never reached the U.S. shores. Parasites could be considerd "Stealth Biowarfare" as they easily defeat the human immune sytem and don't cause easily observble syptoms. Skin rash and lumps under the skin are two that re produced by parasites. These sites have many good links for those who want to learn more about these silent killers.

Mr. Nuke
http://www.skinparasites.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID8&conf=DCConfID2

http://www.safe2use.com/scabiesboard/wwwboard.html
http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/index.html?1004229597
http://cloud.prohosting.com/jag420/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi
http://hometown.aol.com/write2mary/myhomepage/index.html

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