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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule

Buchanan Dam, Texas 119 posts, May 2001
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posted 05-07-2001 11:28 AM
I'm hoping Military Lies or Defender or maybe someone who lives in Texas will be able to answer some questions I have about an incident we experienced on April 13th - coincidental??? - who knows?We live in Buchanan Dam, TX, a small town at the southwest end of Lake Buchanan in the Texas Hill Country. We have lots of chemtrails in our skies, and I had always wondered why so many appeared in our southern skylines, always thinking they were contrails from jets at very high altitudes, probably military training flights. I did ask my husband about the constant activity, especially in the skies west of us, because there was no large airport, or large town for that matter, in that direction. He said there was a military airfield on the other side of Llano, but he thought it was shut down and used little, or not at all. It was about two years ago that my husband started hearing reports about military helicopters flying at low altitudes in circles around Kingsland, to the south of us, and around Burnet, to the east of us, and people "just swore they saw whitish dust trails behind them". I had heard lots of helicopters flying over us at different times of the day and early evening, and I always went outside to see what "identity" they held, whether they were Star Flight Med-Evacs, or from an Austin news channel or police dept., but they were always jungle green military aircraft. I'm sorry I don't know models or sizes. We even had a large military seaplane land in the lake right behind our house, and then take off, circle around, land, and repeat the pattern several times. That sure got all of us out in our backyards! We thought the plane was crashing at first because it was so low at it's first approach - and that's LOUD, too. Anyway, after all this activity in the skies, I couldn't help but notice a rash of heart problems, intestinal blockages, gall bladder attacks, and glandular infections in so many people in our community. It was like a plague! My husband had three heart attacks in a 12 hour period in April, 1999, with angioplasty and stents as a result, then gall bladder attacks in Aug. 1999, with gall bladder removal in Sept., and then angioplasty again in Nov., and finally a bypass surgery in Jan, 2000. Each of his episodes was preceded by a flare up in an abscessed tooth that we could not afford to have correctly treated.(this history is all leading up to my initial question, I promise!) My daughter and two other children her same age, 7, ended up with infections in their parotid glands after swimming in the lake that summer, 1999. I knew of numerous women with intestinal blockages that resulted in surgeries, and I heard of several men and women with severe gall bladder attacks after swimming in the lake. Everybody thought I was crazy for blaming those helicopters, but I had no idea there was such a conspiracy until I found Chemtrail Central this month. We've all kind of laughingly blamed "the water" when we compared health maladies...how prophetic. The helicopter activity stopped for about a year and a half, and then we had our "visit" on Friday the 13th. Early that morning, my husband drove to the cafe for breakfast, and became quite ill with profuse sweating and dizziness and loss of vision. He could only drink orange juice and a little coffee, and then stubbonly drove himself home and came in the house and collapsed on the floor. His pressure was 157/122, and he told me to call EMS. He had increased his diuretic and potassium the day before, and after three hours of treatment by the EMT's and the doctor in the Llano ER, he finally responded. We found out that he was on the verge of a coma from either an overload or a shortage of potassium. We, of course, blamed it on the doctor that doubled his medications. On the 17 mile trip home from the ER on Hwy. 29, a small two lane road connecting Llano and Buchanan Dam, we noticed a low flying military copter approaching us head on, as we headed east and it headed west. I slowed down and looked up just in time to see the pilot at about 100 feet above turn on a bright spotlight twice, directed straight at our vehicle! Now how weird is that? Especially when you don't "legitimately" know what's going on. I made a little joke to my husband that they were following him and taking pictures and that he couldn't "hide" anymore! He's a former Army Ranger in Black Ops and Delta Force during the late 60's, and he has only begun remembering his missions since an overdose of morphine in 1992 at the VA hospital in Houston. Needless to say, he didn't think I was too funny, and he had no comment. Quite a paranoid man, but justifiably so... So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it! I feel better now that I've "spilled my guts", and I hope someone has an idea of why that copter was interested in an old Buick driving down an old country road ????? Of course, now I'm thinking we're in the middle of a biochemical dump zone, and I guess the military has to follow the progress of their guinea pigs. Thank God for Olive Leaf Extract and homeopathic remedies, because we are sick ALL the time. My poor husband is still suffering from erratic heart beats and unusally high blood pressure, and the two doctors he has since seen just give him more drugs. No more diuretics or potassium, though. I had to make that decision for him, and one doctor is honest enough to commend me for it. I saw on this site that the chemicals we're "living" with have a way of messing up the mineral levels in your system. I believe that FOR SURE. Anyway, please post a theory you might have concerning this craziness - the military's, not mine! I hope someone has an idea... ------------------ UnHappyTrailsToUs 
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-07-2001 04:35 PM
Interesting story MollyGainYa.I've not seen anything like it myself, but this isn't the first report I've heard of helicopters that appeared to be spraying. Thanks for spilling your guts...  
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-07-2001 06:13 PM
Hi MollyGainYa,I've seen a few Apache gunships flying over Lake Conroe, but haven't seen any choppers doing any spraying here, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening here too. Sorry to hear about your health problems. Keep reading some of these forums, maybe you'll find some help, like colloidal silver and other possible remedies? Maybe your husband still has some friends from service, maybe you can come up with some answers too about whats going on with these chemtrails. I don't think you're being so paranoid, like about the OD your husband got in a VA hospital. It's a real disgrace about how veterans are treated at VA hospitals. I wonder how he feels about that deal with China to buy millions of $$$ worth of black berets. Seemed like a blatant attempt to lower morale among U.S. military in general. I know many vets are aware of threats to U.S. aside from chemtrails. I hope you and your husband can get some good treatment somewhere. Maybe you can contact websites related to Gulf War Syndrome, or better yet, find one related to your husbands unit. You may be able to find other sources to help you both out. There are POW/MIA websites, Viet Nam Vet and survivor websites that may be able to give you some good advice about health care?
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-07-2001 06:29 PM
MollyGainYa,If you're up to it, you can also make up some little flyers showing the chemtrailcental.com address and post them around on bulletin boards in stores, colleges etc around where you live. I've heard that public exposure, like the TV news reports in Houston helped to reduce spraying in that area, at least for awhile. Most people are still not aware of this thing because most of the media won't touch it. 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 08:25 PM
Mollygainya, Sorry to hear about all the health difficulties to your family. Defender is correct about the Veterans sites...My hubby is 100% disabled Vet and I have GWI and Fibromyalgia and those sites have a lot of help and info.++++++As for the helicoptors, believe it....I have regular "visits" from Military looking choppers plus other kinds of helos that have strange colors or markings. These are "tree-top" fly-overs, way too low. I have some pics of helicopter and other planes very low on my webpage that Izakovic lets me use at DS-4 at http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/bossier2001.htm Also, I got excellent pics of a white and blue helicopter spraying my property, tree-top level, so low, I got I.D.# I think. He had large spray booms extended on either side, yet, I don't know of any farms being developed near us, so don't know what he was about. He made several "passes" over. Blessings, Joanne
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Chem11
megasprayer news

The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 08:56 PM
There I was, Joshua Tree National Monument, 1991.JT, now a park, is an enormous and beautiful desert expanse outside of Palm Springs, CA. It was ravged by fire a couple years back, but I digress. I was sitting in my car about mid-day and no-one was anywhere around. Suddenly, the car was engulfed in a terrific roaring and accompanying dustorm. I jumped out and saw a black helo directly above my vehicle, maybe twenty feet above me. At the most. I jumped back in grabbed and grabbed my camera, fired off a shot as the chopper took off. At the time, I figured it was probably some bored military pilot looking for a few laughs at my expense. At the time, I had a piece of anamolous evidence in my possession that I had unwisely shown to several researchers in the UFO field. A few years later, some of these researchers admitted to working clandestinely with the military and inelligence agencies. Boy, was I naive. These people couldn't have sent a louder message and I figured it was just a joke. Live and learn.

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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-08-2001 09:26 PM
The TintDude hasn't been back to the board since his helicopter visit...
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Anne
Senior Member
Napa, CA USA 123 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 11:02 PM
I have not seen helicopters spraying in No. CA either, but believe that anything is possible. Reading about the various military manevurs happening in Texas who know what the military is up to. It is fact that various large cities were sprayed with bacteria in the 50s and 60s so it is possible that your area could be their test zone. There has been several people recently who have had attacks of gall bladder for no apparent reason. Take care and try to keep immune systems up. 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 01:52 AM
The recent helicopter visit should be posted on my webpage at DS-4 soon. There is already a black helicopter posted there that visited me a couple of months ago, as well as those odd looking and acting flat black jets. The recent helo was blue and white and will be posted. I have also been a UFO Investigator/Researcher for 20 years, so I was already "conditioned" to the idea of black helicopter visits, of which I've had many when I lived in another town in Louisiana. I've been getting the visits at my new property but not sure it's because of my chemtrail pictures and my big mouth about chems or still just on going because of the UFO interest. Anyway, which ever, still here sticking my nose or "neck" out for causes, maybe stupidly so, but I don't know of any other way to be after all this time. Hubby is sure I'll get "neutralized" one day but I don't personally place that much importance on myself. If it does happen, I tried to do some "right" things with my life...so, just hoping for the best and expecting the worse....what a rush. I'm such a tremendous believer in "Fate" and Destiny, that I figure, my name was written in "the Book of Life" a long time ago so it will happen the way it,s supposed to happen. I don't want to be real old anyway...too boring and depressing and painful. Don,t mind the rant. Am sick again from the chems...all my flowers and plants all died day after the copter visit...guess I'll buy artificial. Blessings, Joanne The pictures I mention, some already there and others will go in later when Izakovic has time are at his site.http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/bossier2001.htm 
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Chem11
megasprayer news

The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 02:39 AM
I am looking forward to seeing those pictures, Delphi. That's a really impressive body of evidence you are building over there. You're catching, on film, something I myself have personally witnessed.I'm wondering if you observed some of the anamolous craft at the time they were photgraphed, or if you noticed them after the film was developed? You're pretty handy with that camera...
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 03:13 AM
Chem11, Thank you!! A "side-effect" of the chems interest has been photography...I got so interested, I just had to get a camera and once I got into it, I felt comfortable with it and found I can do pretty much o.k. with it, much to my surprise! In answer about the anoalistic craft or "objects", no, I have never had a "visual" on a single one and would be totally un-aware of them til photos were developed! Then, I'd be surprised as "heck"!! I have noticed another "odd" thing too, when I get a pic of chemplane, never shows up on film very well, even though the sky, trees, and "trails" will be crisp and clear! Very, very strange,...especially since I "Zoom-out" for a lot of those type shots? The pic I have at DS-4 of the "tag-along" planes, also, fuzzy yet other backround normal...and that was odd, as hubby and I had a very good "visual" of the 2 planes as they were very low and large, you can see our trees in the shot as point of reference for altitude. This month is the all out "PRIZE WINNER", I swear, I got a huge anomalous object in with chems in pic, it is diamond shape and about the size of your thumb-nail at arms length, glowing, and was not visable to me except when photo developed, other features in photo clear also...this pic is really something. My colleague is the expert though, and I scanned it to him, so he may find an un-exciting fact about it but perhaps not. I wasn't shooting into the sun, not lense flare far as I know, all pics before and after came out fine so not flaw, will see...?? I do wonder about the "anomalies" that seem to show up more than usual for me as I have also been a UFO?researcher?investigator for 20 yrs. and have had excellent night-time, multiple witness visuals of anomalous objects or craft...only one day time sighting and now...these pictures...hmmmm...got me wondering. Anyway, I am liking to photograph so I'm gonna keep up with it and see what all developes, (pardon the pun)! Blessings, Joanne
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 03:20 AM
Chem11, Pardon above "errors", I must need to hit the "sack". I see one mispelling and the two question marks by ufo should have been thusly, UFO/Researcher/investigator. I hate when that happens...now I'm having to be "anal retentive" ole perfectionist...leave it to me! Joanne  
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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule

Buchanan Dam, Texas 119 posts, May 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 08:51 AM
All I can say is, "Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!", to defender, DelphiBlessings, Chem11, Thermit, Anne, and all others who have so positively responded to my "plea". You have all helped me to overcome the paranoia and the urge to delete my messages after I posted them. Like Delphi, AKA Blessings, Joanne,(BLESS YOU!!!), I know Who's really in control, and it ain't Beelzebub and his bunch!! We're all sticking our necks out by posting these accounts, and I have revealed WAY too much info by listing my precise location, but "greater is He Who is in me, than he who is in the world", so try your best, inhabitants of hell, and it still won't be enough!!!My husband just told me yesterday that his good friend's son just separated from the Marines, and he knew that groups of "specially trained" troups have been sent out to cities across the nation to infiltrate the general populace in low profile apprentice jobs in order to gather info on "conscientious objectors" and "potential enemies of the government", and just plain "bellyachers" that might pose a "threat" to the country. Rruuh-RrOh! Big Brother AND Big Sister are closing in, and they're depending on the reports of 18-20 year old recruits for their proof. Heaven help us! They just better stay away from my daughter.... My husband and I decided yesterday that he's just going to have to live with his constant pain and forego anymore surgery. He's been unable to work for 3 years now, and with his most recent surgery, arthroscopic meniscal repair on right knee, the same nonchalant, what's-your-name-again? "treatment" is taking place. This is from doctors in a giant medical system, Scott & White, and not military doctors as you would expect. It took us a while, but we finally figured out that among the social engineers in medicine, formerly known as doctors, he is not on the list of "savable subjects". We filed for disability with SSA in August of 1999 and are currently waiting for his first hearing in San Antonio. We have an "advocate" with MASH (Medical Advocacy Services for Healthcare) that is representing us, but we're having a hard time figuring out whose side he's really on. There is no telling what the outcome will be, but we're hoping for the best (foolishly?). After SSA we'll be applying for VA benefits which are currently "service connected - 0% disability", which makes NO sense, but because of his career as an assassin for our government, his DD-214 shows him as a mechanic and an xray tech with no overseas duty. So many soldiers from that Viet Nam era are wrongly classified and denied benefits and conveniently forgotten, but that's a subject I better not get started on...No wonder Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is the No. 1 "illness" among vets. How can a man relive HALO's and speak in Vietnamese in his nightmares if he never was in 101st Airborne or in VN??? Anyway, I am going to search for those sites that help vets, and we were just referred to an attorney that will waive his retainer until settlement on SSA determinations. "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus." Something has to go our way - it's just time... I was just researching HAARP yesterday, and I'm thinking our weather must be highly engineered as well as our "air". We had a frightening thunder storm Sunday with marble to baseball size hail and loads of rain and tornado force winds. I have never prayed so hard! On Monday we had another intense but short storm with lots of marble size hail. Yesterday my daughter woke up with a burning stomach ache and headache with lots of puffiness in her face and uncontrollable sneezing. She came home from school with the same symptoms, and after lots of herbal medications, she slept pretty soundly. The minute she awakened, it all started over again, and it was "pea soup" outside, really dense fog. I hate to send her out in that stuff, and I'd home school her if we could afford the curricula. Some day...some day... DelphiBlessings, I'm going to visit the site with your pics...can't wait...gotta sign off now. MollyGainYa, with love ------------------ UnHappyTrailsToUs
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 09:12 AM
...we finally figured out that among the social engineers in medicine, formerly known as doctors, he is not on the list of "savable subjects".This is slightly off-topic, guys, but what MollyGainYa is saying is correct. A year ago my best friend, a woman who has a Ph.D. in physiology, was sent home to die so the staff could put another patient in her hospital bed. They had been treating her with IV tranquilizers and she hadn't gotten better. Hmmph. Imagine that. The reason I'm bringing this up is that each of us needs to have a plan of action when the medical community approaches our health concerns in this way. Has anybody out there figured out a way to get hospital-based doctors to do what they were trained to do, i.e., diagnose and treat? I have noticed that health insurance companies usually fulfill their responsibilities when I bug them so much that they do what they originally promised just to get rid of me. Has anyone found a technique which will make "providers" actually care for their sick patients? I don't want to take up board space on this, so you can just put messages in my box, if you wish. Thanks. 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 12:59 PM
Whoaa, Delphi, I guess I forgot that you had a webpage. I keep forgetting the possibility of alien intel being part of spraying, if not man-made UFO's. I tend to always think it's all a human operation because we have so much info on corruption at high levels of govt. That could be part of that connection allegedly made between alien powers and human govt. to give the U.S. 'most favored nation' status in exchange for advance alien technology.I wonder if there is a different type of spraying at U.S. Military bases? Maybe we can get a forum started just related to military bases as targets, sounds like they may be using choppers and C-130s as opposed to nation-wide multi-engined jet spraying? 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 12:14 AM
Defender and everyone, Hi, It is true, at my chem-web-page that there is more than chems showing up in the pictures...quite a few anomalous craft or objects are showing up more and more in with my chem photos. As I've said, I don't see them during photo taking, but after developing, all kinda weird "stuff" seems to show up! I got that spectacular possible UFO (diamond shape, size of thumbnail at arms length,) in backround of chems. It is glowing and very unusual. I scanned it over to my colleague, but haven't heard from him...I hope he's alright, as things are not so good over there in Kosovo and Croatia where he is at. I pray he is well! I know he will want to put that pic on site when he can. I wonder also, if there is a UFO/Chem connection. Not necessarily them doing it, but maybe us altering the atmosphere some, for them?? From the Press Conference today about aliens and ufo's, we have superluminal flight capabilities already that we learned from them...un-real? I don't know what to think about what they all said today...Blessings all, Joanne
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 12:33 AM
Defender, The more I think about it, you may have somthing there, as many of the chemplanes I've observed have looked odd and had some unusual characteristics. Some almost seem to "Morph" sometimes, they just don't look quite right, the "tag-along-chemplanes" I have on my pages, don't look right, (to be so close together like that), and the way sometimes, the planes seem like they disappear or act in some other eradical fashion. I had 5 black helicopters circle my land for 10 minutes one day and yet my dog didn't re-act, nosey neighbor never came to check out noise, hubby saw them but had amnesia about them after wards, and I just felt strange and mad...I gave them the "one Finger greeting" and they left later...it was very odd. It's good I don't scare easy...I have had so many Helo visits, and other "odd" occurrences and I just keep on tickin...I don't know why I don't get scared, maybe because I got scared too much when I was a kid, or maybe I was just a "warrior" (Zeena?) type in another life. After today, the aliens may have been involved, from what got said at that conference...it is possible, I suppose...Blessings, Joanne  
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