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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S. 499 posts, May 2001
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posted 08-17-2002 10:55 PM
Pardon me for getting back to the original TOPIC here but... I've watched and RECORDED this pattern over and over and over again. It's OBVIOUS that the main purpose here is to mitigate rainfall or to CAUSE DROUGHT!!! "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." They're destroying FOOD, LAND, people's homes, creating draconian rules and fines, stopping cheap hydroelectric dams and making cities pay for OIL for fuel etc. etc. This is all part of your loving New World Odor plan to rid this country of pesky native Amerikans and turn the land over to the UN Banksters. Don't you guys recall the TREASONOUS vote our congress and senate gave the 'DESERTIFICATION TREATIES'??? Interesting name eh? Those were in the last October that Clinton was in office. UN ENFORCEMENT legally began the following FEBRUARY. They needed a method that would give them PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY!! I mean, the 'drought' is a 'NATURAL' disaster isn't it?.... NOT!!!
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA 456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-17-2002 11:07 PM
Kinda hard to run a bank without clients. Yeah, if I wanted to dominate the business world, I'd start by killing my future client base. Great strategy, Hi-tech! 
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S. 499 posts, May 2001
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posted 08-18-2002 05:26 PM
When you PRINT THE MONEY, you OWN EVERYTHING. The biggest globalists like Turner, Rockefeller and others are already on RECORD as wanting 9/10 of the population REMOVED. KILLED! THEIR OWN WORDS!! The UN is already on RECORD as planning on using food as a WEAPON for behaviour modification. The Air Force is already on RECORD as saying they can use weather as a weapon and create DROUGHT. Already on RECORD as saying they're doing weather modification experiments. I could list all these here but I'll point to the drought 'thread' which already has most of them. There is a war on against the American people and people around the globe. And CHEMTRAILS are the TOOL for that GENOCIDE!!! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/2196 
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Alpha-Theta
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posted 08-18-2002 07:28 PM
Hitech you are correct, nevermind what skeptics say. It's obvious that what is occuring is mass poisining of the earth and everything on it. Look at the patterns. Look at what is occuring. It's not just the chemtrails. Seemingly every aspect of our ecology is being attacked and/or exploited.Am I to believe that this is coincidence? Is it also coincidence that known members of 'TPTB' or the illustrious fimancial sept have referred to eradicating 90% of the population? Would mass poisining of biologoical entities and ecosystems be a method in which TPTB's 90% goal could be reached?
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA 456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-18-2002 09:45 PM
Hey hitech...ever occur to you that the USAF is composed of "the American people"? So why would we commit genocide against ourselves?
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-19-2002 03:11 AM
nawww...let's stay with your claim A/T...0500 to 0600 20 to 50 trails at that time, and nothing the rest of the day, larry has the drought thread...go play now larry...what was it A/T all week 7/7 or 5/7 or is it 3/7 days of trails ? or have you revised the amount of continuous trails ? let's pin this baby down and see what's what... unless your fibbing... inquiring minds and all that.... 
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 03:28 AM
Seeker I have no desire to go around in circles with you. You have no class and no credibility in my eyes. I don't care what you think and I truly believe the words you type to be nothing more then a waste of virtual space. You continuously and desperately try to put words in my mouth. It's funny. It is not I that resort to such unethical tactics. I don't need to. heh. What I've said is what I've said, and if you can read it then you should be able to understand it. Of course it's not like you really care anyway, you're too busy misquoting me because your puny little mind can't do anything else. You can debunk didley Seeker. But oh i'm sure you will try, and as usual you will look like a jackass along the way.
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 04:46 AM
Maybe I'm naturally oversensitive, or maybe someone just slipped me decaf coffee this morning, but flattery will get The Seeker nowhere. Before examining the present situation, however, it is important that I help others to see through the empty and meaningless statements uttered by Seeker and his confreres. Even though this is the precondition for my crusade against loud nonrepresentationalism, this does not negate the fact that his long-term goals are rife with contradictions and difficulties; they're completely lame-brained, meet no objective criteria, and are unsuited for a supposedly educated population. And as if that weren't enough, given a choice of having him contaminate or cut off our cities' water supply or having my bicuspids extracted sans Novocaine, I would embrace the pliers, purchase some Polident Partials, and call it a day. While I don't know Seeker's secret plans, I do know that if we don't soon tell Seeker to stop what he's doing, he will proceed with his batty, wrongheaded biases, considerably emboldened by our lack of resistance. We will have tacitly given Seeker our permission to do so. I suspect that it can be safely said that he is a loose cannon. His surrogates are cut from the same mold as inimical twerps. But that's not the end of the story. Once one begins thinking about free speech, about brainless ratbags who use ostracism and public opinion to prevent the airing of views contrary to their own crazy beliefs, one realizes that we've all heard him yammer and whine about how he's being scapegoated again, the poor dear. I will not quibble with Seeker as to whether or not his modes of thought are worse than the Black Death of olden times. Instead, I'll simply state that you can observe a definite bias in Seeker's sermons relating to iconoclastic catty-types and leave it at that. As I have indicated, he has written volumes about how obscurity, evasiveness, incomprehensibility, indirectness, and ambiguity are marks of depth and brilliance. Don't believe a word of it, though. The truth is that he claims that it is narrow-minded to question his morals. Predictably, he cites no hard data for that claim. This is because no such data exist. Call me a cynic, but the poisonous wine of quislingism had been distilled long before Seeker entered the scene. Seeker is merely the agent decanting the poisonous fluid from its bottle into the jug that is world humanity. Some people are responsible and others are not. Seeker falls into the category of "not". It is well known that the word "honesty" does not exist in his vocabulary. But the long-term consequences of his viewpoints are rarely examined, let alone subjected to scientific scrutiny. Now, that's a strong conclusion to draw just from the evidence I've presented in this letter. So let me corroborate it by saying that I indisputably think that the most sleazy lunkheads you'll ever see are deeply impressed by Seeker's guff. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that someone has been giving his brain a very thorough washing, and now Seeker is trying to do the same to us. Seeker periodically puts up a facade of reform. However, underneath the pretty surface, it's always business as usual. These issues are actually political issues. No wonder that no matter what else we do, our first move must be to educate everyone about how the right thing to do in this case is determined by various vectors of forces in an endless multidimensional tug-of-war involving ropes leading out in many directions. That's the first step: education. Education alone is not enough, of course. We must also dispense justice. As a general rule, Seeker's slurs are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition." Funny, that was the same term that his toadies once used to defy the rules of logic. If Seeker had done his homework, he'd know that he frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what he is doing -- as opposed to what he is saying -- I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness Seeker is mongering. We need to reveal some shocking facts about Seeker's quips. Yes, you heard me right; if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less blathering than Seeker. If we face our problems realistically, get to the root of our problems, and be determined to solve them, then the sea of barbarism, on which he so heavily relies, will begin to dry up. Although I consistently show principle, gumption, verve, and nerve, I do not countenance challenging Seeker through breaking the law -- to do so is truculent, self-absorbed, and indefensible. It's easy enough to hate him any day of the week on general principles. But now I'll tell you about some very specific things that he is up to, things that ought to make a real Seeker-hater out of you. First off, he wants us to believe that he is the ultimate authority on what's right and what's wrong. How stupid does he think we are? Here's the answer, albeit in a somewhat circuitous and roundabout style: If I try really, really hard, I can almost see why he would want to humiliate, subjugate, and eventually, eliminate everyone who wants to advance a clear, credible, and effective vision for dealing with our present dilemma and its most useless manifestations. If my memory serves me correctly, the biggest difference between me and Seeker is that Seeker wants to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. I, on the other hand, want to reveal the truth about his beliefs. Many people are shocked when I tell them that part of the myth that he perpetuates is that opportunism is the only alternative to incendiarism. And I'm shocked that so many people are shocked. You see, I had thought everybody already knew that he has nothing but contempt for you, and you don't even know it. That's why I feel obligated to inform you that he claims that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. I contend that the absurdities within that claim speak for themselves, although I should add that Seeker has commented that everyone with a different set of beliefs from his is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell. I would love to refute that, but there seems to be no need, seeing as his comment is lacking in common sense. At the same time, if history follows its course, it should be evident that Seeker is afraid of change. So don't feed me any phony baloney about how laws are meant to be broken. That's just not true. To bring the matter closer to home, let me remind you that I cannot compromise with him; he is without principles. I cannot reason with him; he is without reason. But I can warn him, and with a warning he must indubitably take to heart: He likes to cite poll results that "prove" that doing the fashionable thing is more important than life or liberty. Really? Have you ever been contacted by one of his pollsters? Chances are good that you have never been contacted and never will be. Otherwise, the polls would show that Seeker accuses me of being narrow-minded. Does he believe I'm narrow-minded because I refuse to accept his claim that nepotism is a viable and vital objective for our nation's educational institutions? If so, then I guess I'm as narrow-minded as I could possibly be. I have the strength, ability, desire, and courage to remind Seeker about the concept of truth in advertising. Do you? It has been said that questionable statistics, pseudo-scientific studies, and biased reports blame our societal problems on handy scapegoats. That makes sense to me. I believe it's true. But it truly implies that his propositions will have consequences -- very serious consequences. And we ought to begin doing something about that. Oh, and one more thing. Seeker does not merely oppress, segregate, and punish others. He does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. While this letter hasn't provided anything in the way of a concrete plan of action, it may help us focus our thinking a little better when we do work out a plan. For now, we must provide an atmosphere of mutual respect, free from propagandism, interventionism, and all other forms of prejudice and intolerance. I, not being one of the many presumptuous sciolists of this world, will undeniably be happy to have your help in this endeavor. Ouch.
A-T was here.
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US 176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 09:25 AM
Uhmm, A/T?You are starting to sound a little scarey there. (the oversized font doesn't help much either) 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-19-2002 09:39 AM
What are you running for A/T?! quote: So let me corroborate it by saying that I indisputably think that the most sleazy lunkheads you'll ever see are deeply impressed by Seeker's guff.
hmmmm so I am a sleazy lunkhead then! Glad we cleared that up.
quote: For now, we must provide an atmosphere of mutual respect, free from propagandism, interventionism, and all other forms of prejudice and intolerance. I, not being one of the many presumptuous sciolists of this world, will undeniably be happy to have your help in this endeavor.
LOL thanks for a good chuckle this morning A/T and for demonstrating that once again you have the talent to steer a thread completely off topic in the oxymoron direction and beyond! quote: I mean, the 'drought' is a 'NATURAL' disaster isn't it?....
Could very well be hitech.

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mindtrip
New Member
PHX AZ USA 3 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 10:18 AM
No these are not bugs. They are metallic and have a bright shine. These things are very high in the atmosphere. They move very quickly and do sharp turns. Its been a while since Ive seen these, last time I was able to see one was in 99'. Seems like every clear day I go to look, the chemtrails are spreading out. EMFX13 you say you have seen these, whats your take?
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 10:21 AM
quote: hmmmm so I am a sleazy lunkhead then! Glad we cleared that up
If the shoe fits darlin'. Lulu it was your biased pal seeker that took this off topic. quote: nawww... let's stay with your claim A/T...0500 to 0600 20 to 50 trails at that time, and nothing the rest of the day, larry has the drought thread...go play now larry...what was it A/T all week 7/7 or 5/7 or is it 3/7 days of trails ? or have you revised the amount of continuous trails ?let's pin this baby down and see what's what... unless your fibbing... inquiring minds and all that....
Clearly a desperate and pathetic personal attack. Funny you try to blame it on me. Lulu the debunker wanna be? bwuhah. You couldn't debunk didley either Darlin'. Just go back to defamation on the debunker board, or continue it here. That's all petty minds can do. Poor seeker, he can't defend himself and his lame friends are an equally poor excuse for 'intelligent life'. Oh and Lulu your real smooth how you f___ with my posts. Like that one thread where you (attempted to) attack me about some copyright, then mysteriously the images wouldn't load for some time. I also proofread my posts and on more then one occasion I have had 'typos' inserted. Of course this fits perfectly with your social bias and intellectual envy. why don't you quote me on any oxymorons. I want you to. It will be fun. I've heard you talk... let's see ya walk. Bonehead the big bad marine finds my comments to be scary. Somehow, I'm simply not buying it. Unless of course you mean 'intellectualy' scary. Then it makes perfect sense. Fire on the land, chemicals in the air, pathologicals in the sea... yet all this attention is focused on me. What an honor. Awe yeah, and the only people doing any running, ever since I got here, are the debunkers. Ask your bud Duncan.
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mindtrip
New Member
PHX AZ USA 3 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 11:13 AM
EMFX13 Thanks for the website. (http://www.bvalphaserver.com/article.php?sid=419) That is exactly what I have tried to explain. The pictures really dont do justice, but cameras dont see what the eye can. Once you see these, the daily soap opera and propoganda fed to the masses becomes trivial. Any opinion on who's flying these? There definitely are alot of them. It always amazes me at the people who dont even want to try to see them, but can claim they are bugs or can tell you what they arent. Haha! I already know what they are, anyone who's seen them have ideas as to what they are doing?
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S. 499 posts, May 2001
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posted 08-19-2002 12:14 PM
First off, in replying to 'seeker', I'll post wherever and whenever I feel I have a contribution to make nevermind that you don't like it. Next, to answer the tort about the air force being part of us.... "We were just following ORDERS!!!" Sound familiar? These projects are COMPARTMENTALIZED so the poor grunt bus driver flying the truck doesn't know what he's dumping. The schmuck who loaded it doesn't know what he's loading. The people setting up DETENTION CAMPS think they're doing something for the good of the homeland... The soldiers NOW practicing DISARMAMENT, roadblocks and checkpoints THINK they're being trained to fight 'terrorists.' Yeah, Right! What ELSE do you have to SELL ME?? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE GENOCIDAL POLICE STATE OF NAZI AMERIKA!! Internment Camps For Citizens - Ashcroft's Hellish Vision http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-turley14aug14.story http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htm Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace. The proposed camp plan should trigger immediate congressional hearings and reconsideration of Ashcroft's fitness for this important office. Whereas Al Qaeda is a threat to the lives of our citizens, Ashcroft has become a clear and present threat to our liberties. Ashcroft hopes to use his self-made "enemy combatant" stamp for any citizen whom he deems to be part of a wider terrorist conspiracy. Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision For years, those in the Freedom Movement have warned the day was coming when our government was going to put American citizens into concentration camps and throw away habeus corpus. They were scorned as right-wing whackos. Well, it turns out they were right and their detractors now have egg on their faces. Herr Ashcroft wants to do what the scoffers said could never happen in America. It is time to face the truth. Under the Bush/Ashcroft regime, America is rapidly devolving into a fascist police state with enough military might to tell the nations of the world, "Play by our rules or we will bomb the hell out of you any time we feel like it." It is time to create a petition for impeachment of Ashcroft and submit it to Congress. In fact, it is time to rid ourselves of the entire Bush regime. Had the Democrats under Clinton attempted half the things this administration has done, Republicans would be howling for blood. Maybe it is time for "We, the People" to start doing some howling of our own. Certainly those we elected to represent us are not doing their jobs properly. It is time to remind them of the coming November elections and tell Congress point blank -- either rein in the Bush regime or kiss your vote goodbye, along with any others you can convince not to vote for them. --Henrietta

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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-19-2002 12:47 PM
damn...thanks for the laugh A/T...>>snort<<I forgot to ask you your location as I remember you got a little wishy washy on whether it was 45 miles NE or NW of indy ? this is amusing...you spent the better part of 10 paragraphs ripping me and then wrote this below....forgot you paxil this morning a/t ? For now, we must provide an atmosphere of mutual respect, free from propagandism, interventionism, and all other forms of prejudice and intolerance. I, not being one of the many presumptuous sciolists of this world, will undeniably be happy to have your help in this endeavor. very amusing indeed... ------------------ T/S 
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 12:53 PM
Thanks I'm glad you liked it. It's called a philosophical abstract. It's a 'goal', if you will. The fun begins now my friend. I live where I live. lol. 45 miles NE of Indy. Perhaps you want to hold me accountable for being imperfect. I don't really care. I wasn't ripping you. I was analyzing you. Comments like 'forgot your paxil this morning' are considered "ripping". My post wasn't antagonization, but only honesty (with the exception of ironical sarcasm). The truth hurts though, remember? quote: disrespect, propagandism, interventionism, prejudice and intolerance.
It does describe you perfectly Seeker. It all started when you ignorantly claimed that anyone who believes in chemtrails has 'no common sense'. After debunking your common sense and exposing the lack there of, you have obviously been on somewhat of a personal vendetta to go out of your way to antagonize me. All one needs to do is read through the posts. Your superficial claims are insignificant, but how can I expect someone of your caliber to recognize this?
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-19-2002 02:33 PM
It all started when you ignorantly claimed that anyone who believes in chemtrails has 'no common sense'.a/t I never said that and you are guilty of misrepresentation...which was followed by 10 paragraphs of masterbation... what I said was, common sense debunks most things including chemtrails... it does help to have one's facts straight old boy... pip..pip... ------------------ T/S 
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 03:43 PM
quote: Common sense debunks most things including chemtrails.
Not verbatim but nevertheless the same insinuation. If chemtrails can be debunked with common sense, then you are insinuating that anyone who doesn't debunk chemtrails has no common sense. That's how I interpreted it bub. I thought it was also significant, of all things, that USAF and 'resident' debunker Pacer even called you out on attempted fabrication or 'exaggeration'.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-19-2002 04:17 PM
whatever dufus...if you choose to look at what I said as a personal attack...well then you do have some issues don't you...pacer commented on the visual distance of the trail pic I posted, I think he made it clear what he said was an estimate....I having lived there knew better... anything else...I have supper to fix... ------------------ T/S 
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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 04:25 PM
Hehe. You can go now Betty Crocker.  I never said that this particular statement was a personal attack. The personal attacks came afterward. It was definitely an unsubstantiated claim though. Nothing more then your own personal rationalization of your own opinion, which had nothing to do with reality or science.
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA 456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-19-2002 11:07 PM
"Next, to answer the tort about the air force being part of us.... 'We were just following ORDERS!!!' Sound familiar?"Sure, but in THOSE armies, the soldiers weren't educated to know that they could object to an illegal order. The US military does educate it's personnel that they are bound by the Constitution, not the commander, not the President. So long as either of those people remain within the lawful bounds, the orders are expected to be carried out. But harming innocent citizens is well outside those bounds. Further, nearly every American soldier, sailor, marine or airman has a stake in harming the citizenry of America...we're harming our own families and friends. We weren't some segmented part of society that lives in underground caves...I own a house surrounded by civilians in a civilian neighborhood. Your rhetoric meant to demonize military personnel is so outrageous that it defies the very sense of fairness and justice that you supposedly claim to "fight" for. Your words are much more Nazi-like (in a propaganda sense) than anything the US military would say. Next time you claim you're out there fighting for the "American way", think about your claims that we're guilty until proven innocent. Yeah, real American. "These projects are COMPARTMENTLIZED so the poor grunt bus driver flying the truck doesn't know what he's dumping." Again, your preconceived characterizations of pilots as "grunt bus drivers" shows your limited sense of knowing who I am or who anyone in the military is like. Pilots are not drivers. Airplanes and helicopters are not cars or buses. They are highly professional, and most are very well educated, and dedicated to their jobs. The number one goal of their job isn't to "follow orders" or go fly their airplane around...it's the defense of the Constitution of the United States. "The schmuck who loaded it doesn't know what he's loading." Again, you show your obvious contempt for anyone wearing a uniform with an American flag on it. And I know exactly what is going on my aircraft, and if I don't know, or they won't tell me, I have the legal authority to refuse it. "The people setting up DETENTION CAMPS think they're doing something for the good of the homeland..." All I've ever seen in the photos of the alleged "detention camps" were the outside sections of the many federal prison camps that are often located on military installations. We've got one here at Maxwell. Most are non-violent drug offenders...a few are "white collar" criminals. They do a great job cutting the grass, and they have an easier work schedule than I do. They get to drive around base on golf carts...I have to walk or pay for my own gas. Sorry, but a few pictures of federal prisons, fences or otherwise do not provide any proof that "detention camps" are being built. I've been to a large number of bases, many of which are fingered as being the site of these concentration camps, and I've yet to fly over or drive by such a structure. "The soldiers NOW practicing DISARMAMENT, roadblocks and checkpoints THINK they're being trained to fight 'terrorists.'" Well, how would you fight a war? Not set up checkpoints to catch fleeing enemy troops? Would you let the enemy POWs keep their weapons? Come on...for the past 10 years, you "NWO" fiends have been shouting that the US Army was at any time about to set up Gulag Amerika, and it's yet to happen. And did it ever occur to you that WE would have to live in this police state? Do you honestly think that at night I can cross into Canada with my wife and kids so I don't have to live in some oppressed country? Why would I want to turn my country into Nazi Germany? Give me a break! 
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S. 499 posts, May 2001
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posted 08-21-2002 04:13 PM
Hey Pacer I'd LIKE to give you a break!It's ignorance of your kind that's allowing this tyranny to PROGRESS in this country. And it IS a copy of NAZI Germany too! Do some investigating dude. Homeland Security was setup in the Klinton administration. The FBI oversaw the FIRST attack on the WTC in 1993. Bush SENIOR settled over 3500 Iraqi millitants in this country, most around OKC! He's the biggest CIA PAEDOPHILE SCUMBAG there is next to Cheney. And it's Cheney who's now funding Saddam Insane through Haliburton. And WHY? Because people foolish and DANGEROUSLY IGNORANT such as yourself easily buy into the LIE that these police state tactics are to find 'terrorists.' WAKE UP AND SMELL THE POLICE STATE DUDE! We've well documented this at my site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews And those who have a doubt should see "9-11 The Road to Tyranny" totally online at: http://64.245.24.77/Alex/alex_jones.html using RealPlayer. Don't watch it... Don't comment on it PERIOD. I don't have time for FOOLS who say something is a 'conspiracy theory' when almost every 'theory' has now been PROVEN over time. We've now got Ashcrack threatening to put citizens in concentration camps AS WAS WARNED ABOUT by 'conspiracy theorists' FEMA is preparing those camps OPENLY. They just completed a UN sponsored excercise to DISARM citizens: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/20/international/20WARG.html?ex=1030420800&en=8004955513fb43ae&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1 "Your rhetoric meant to demonize military personnel is so outrageous that it defies the very sense of fairness and justice that you supposedly claim to "fight" for. Your words are much more Nazi-like (in a propaganda sense) than anything the US military would say." If you actually CARED about those kids as I do, you'd ask WHY is Jr. sending our guys OUT of this country and bringing FOREIGN TROOPS IN to supposedly 'protect' it. The answer is OBVIOUS but dangerous IGNORANT people will call it 'theory.' The foreign troops WILL SHOOT AMERICANS THAT REFUSE DISARMAMENT!! I'm not going to wait to say "I told you so." We've got a clear pattern of Daddy (Poppy) Bush's "New World Odor" progressing under his regime, he's buddies with Klinton's, now Jr. is carrying on with this heinous project. ALL OF THIS IS DOCUMENTED for those who'd take time to check. I'll even provide copies of the 9-11 video to those interested. Email me at: hitech@smithville.net SEEING IS BELIEVING! "All I've ever seen in the photos of the alleged "detention camps" were the outside sections of the many federal prison camps that are often located on military installations. We've got one here at Maxwell. Most are non-violent drug offenders...a few are "white collar" criminals. They do a great job cutting the grass, and they have an easier work schedule than I do. They get to drive around base on golf carts...I have to walk or pay for my own gas. " ITEM: "Military Police Field Manual #3-19.40:" The subtitle on this government manual is: "Military Police Internment/Resettlement Operations." This was issued a few months BEFORE the 9/11 attacks and has been virtually totally ignored by the mass media. It is the official government military policy for establishing and maintaining CONCENTRATION CAMPS in this country. NOTE: Already existing prisons are capable of handling any anticipated foreign terrorists! "Internment / Relocation" Camps, the politically correct term for concentration camps, are needed ONLY to imprison large numbers of AMERICANS! You will also see VIDEO of these camps being setup as part of the numerous "URBAN WARFARE TRAINING EXCERCISES" that is on the 9-11 video. FEMA has already started taking bids on land, tents etc. Many are ALREADY BUILT. Search LLNews or the net for more info. Don't take MY WORD or this FOOL's. CHECK YOURSELF!! It is because of ignorance like this that NAZI Germany happened in the first place. Hitler was VOTED IN like Jr. And many people held similar attitudes that this PACER person did til it was TOO LATE! CHECK FOR YOURSELF!! WATCH THE FREE VIDEO ONLINE!!! Not watching it won't stop the next STAGED 'terrorist' act. But you might fall to the PROPAGANDA that's to be pumped out on the tube. NOTE that Bush boy NEVER went after any of the illegalities Klinton engaged in. No Accountability for WACO. NO Accountability for Ruby Ridge. NO Accountability for the FBI's 1993 Bombing of the WTC. NO Accountability for OKC. No release of videotapes. Just PROPAGANDA blame of Tim McVeigh as a 'militia' guy who was thrown out of a MI militia after attending just one meeting. THIS IS A SETUP AND YOU'D BEST FIGURE IT OUT! If there is any single person here that want's URL's or more info on ANY topic I've mentioned here, just email me and I'll try to forward it to you. Check things out FOR YOURSELF!!! 
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US 176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-21-2002 04:44 PM
Larry, you are one seriously wacked out dude who is in dire need of some anger management therapy.

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Alpha-Theta
Superior

ª×µ»ƒ³²² 694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-21-2002 05:30 PM
[x] ad hominem [x] lack of argument [x] trivialization [x] antagonization [x] ignorance [x] lameness Nicely done B/H. As always, you are forthcoming with an abundance of, well, nothing.
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA 456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-21-2002 10:37 PM
Hey, hitech...how about you actually READ the text of the FM? You can find it here: http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-19.40/toc.htm This manual is a basic manual for MPs (Military Police). Their job, among others, is to detain POWs (called EPWs in the manual) and also assist and help refugees. In light of recent operations (Kosovo, Afghanistan), this manual is highly relevant because the military is detaining a larger number of hostile people that can't really be called EPWs, and they have to deal with large numbers of displaced refugees. It is the task of the MP forces to do this, not front-line infantry. There is not a single reference to any US-based concentration camp, or wrongfully interning any American citizen. In fact, this manual goes out of its way to insist that hostile citizens being detained must be protected by the Geneva Conventions and in compliance with US law. You interpret the title to mean that this manual talks about interning and arresting/resettling Americans. There is nothing to suggest that this manual is intended for use in America. However, this manual clearly outlines procedures to deal with POWs, hostile civilians and refugees. If you think that those categories of people do not exist in modern warfare (outside of our borders), then you're pretty uninformed. Don't judge a book by its cover. 
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