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mindtrip
New Member
PHX AZ USA
3 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 05:22 PM
  
I now live in AZ and have noticed even on a clear day, its not long before chemtrails have clouded the sky. You can watch as the pattern blocks out clear areas. My opinion is that they dont want us to see clearly. To explain, I worked a few summers back in indiana as an iron worker. Looking up one day, i blocked the sun with one of the steel beams so only the bright corona could be seen (sunglasses on of course) Small objects can be seen shooting accross the sky in all directions. I at first dismissed this until I watched one stop dead and turn 90 degrees before resuming flight. There were all sizes and different shapes (mostly disk, oblong, and orb. I watched these everyday for the entire summer prior to leaving for AZ. My brother sometimes still watches them, but here in AZ, even if no clouds are present, its not long before chemtrails cloud the view. Try it where you live, see what you think. 
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 06:32 PM
I like to watch bugs fly around in the sky. Gnats are cool, but dragon flies are my favorite. I sometimes see things just at the edge of my vision. I have heard them called "floaters." Sometimes they happen after I have been in a dusty environment, Sometimes it happens when it is just dry. Sometimes my contact lenses are dirty.
http://www.theberries.ns.ca/Archives/floaters.html BTW I live near Chicago, and we don't get chemtrails.
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-16-2002 06:52 PM
 (Chicago)
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increase 1776
Senior Member
Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 08-16-2002 06:52 PM
If you think Chicago doesn't get sprayed,then you must use the braille on the ATM machines. Nice photo chem11
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 07:00 PM
So a single contrail across the sky is supposed to prove something?sorry, I don't think so. try again.
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NaiveNoMore
New Member
Phoenix, AZ, USA
3 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 07:33 PM
Hello Mindtrip! I've been watching massive chemtrails while lap swimming outdoors for 2 yrs and couldn't get anyone interested to even theorize about what they were doing, as well as my husband! He saw 8 min devoited to this subject on a TV newstation in Kansas a few mo's ago and then searched the WEB for anything on subject matter & voila . . there was chemtrails.central! Made lots of cc's of reports & have been attempting to get people aware. However, just the last 5 days now, they've been placing a substance that's still dissolving clouds (they feather off once the thunderclouds come towards Phoenix and disipate within 1-2 hrs) and it's not the usual white chemtrails. It makes the sun look whitish and exceptionally bright and also appears like a smoggish look . . although AZ doesn't get smog in the Summer; it comes in the Winter w/the temperature inversion. Unfortunately, it's hard to get people aware of this now that they can't see the white trails! What do you do for the gov't . . not a spy, right? Just Kidding!
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Alpha-Theta
Superior
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 07:39 PM
Chill out B/H.ROFL
Just a word of advice in circumspection of reality:
DO NOT LOOK AT THE SUN OR ITS CORONA WITH THE NAKED EYE.
That's just plain silly. Although mindtrip I have also wondered about 'chemhaze' possibly being some type of atmospheric wall to block something.
Chem you stole my blurry marquee ROFL
Looks cool though
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-16-2002 07:49 PM
"On Mother's Day, Sunday May 13th, I went with my mom to the Chicago Botanic Gardens just north of Chicago.(If you're ever in town..go! It's gorgeous and peaceful). It was packed with families enjoying the perfect day. On the way back to the car, we noticed a group of people looking up at the sky. "Wow", said Mom, "aren't those
chemtrails?". I took some photos. The parking lot had dozens of people just standing there, looking up, saying
"What the hell is going on up there?"... http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/MomDay.html
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 08:23 PM
Welcome to the forum mindtrip,i have seen these object's you are talking about before.The most amazing sighting's i had was in 1997 object's were streaming everywhere."THESE OBJECT'S WERE NOT INSECT'S"!I look all the time but i have not seen anything as spectacular as that year.I just happened to be looking up with a tree partially blocking the sun and there they were.This is also the year when i noticed the chemtrail spraying's. Shortly after i learned of the"JOHN BRO TECHNIQUE"/ROSWELL ROD'S SKY FISHING. http://www.blackvault.com/johnbro/ http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/tompix/johnbro.html http://www.roswellrods.com/erl.html "THESE OBJECT'S WERE NOT INSECT'S"!
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 08:39 PM
Chemii, Here is an eye test for you:No cheating now.
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Alpha-Theta
Superior
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 08:51 PM
There appears to be 32 grey dots.35 total, 32 of which appear to be black (err grey) in one instance.
That was fun. Thanks B/H I'm really glad you chilled out. Now that i'm hypnotized what were you saying about chemtrails?
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 09:08 PM
Tee hee hee That is pretty good isn't it?
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Originally posted by Chem11:
"On Mother's Day, Sunday May 13th, I went with my mom to the Chicago Botanic Gardens just north of Chicago.(If you're ever in town..go! It's gorgeous and peaceful). It was packed with families enjoying the perfect day. On the way back to the car, we noticed a group of people looking up at the sky. "Wow", said Mom, "aren't those
chemtrails?". I took some photos. The parking lot had dozens of people just standing there, looking up, saying
"What the hell is going on up there?"... http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/MomDay.html
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I will agree with you on one thing. The Botanical Garden is an exceptionally prety and peaceful place. That is why we have had a family membership there for the last couple of years (my son loves the garden railway exhibit, my wife likes the rose garden, and I like to birdwatch). But frankly I have never ever seen anyone anywhere looking up at the sky and going "What is that?"
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-16-2002 09:14 PM
So Bonehead... are you Jay Reynolds or just a Reynolds wannabee whose lack of imagination requires him to parrot Uncle Jay's patented environmental activist slurs?Don't bother to answer... it's a rhetorical question (and I have a hard time dialoging with someone who goes by the log-in 'Bonehead' for some reason). Oh yeah... I remember. There was this guy back in the day that we used to call Bonehead. During his post-HS summer break he decided to drop LSD every day. Because of the tolerance he built up, he was up to a 30-40 hits a shot. You can imagine how messed up he was. Well, maybe not... at the height of his acid binge he decided he decided to join The Few, The Proud, The tripping their balls off Marines. Now, I'm not going to tell you that the military is going to do for you what it did for him, but the last time I saw him he was squatting on a vacant piece of propety without heat or electricity. No job and a stack of porno for company. For this reason alone I can't help but pity you, Bonehead. Get a job, find a girlfriend... and stay the hell off my property!
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Alpha-Theta
Superior
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 09:22 PM
Stop the press this is too fu_____ funny.
B/H is 'Jay Reynolds'!?And he is/was a 'Marine' ?! OMFG call an ambulance I'm going to hyperventilate. ROFLMAO
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 09:26 PM
"It's amazing how off topic these thread's can get"....EMFX13
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Alpha-Theta
Superior
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 09:29 PM
Forgive us EMFX is all for the sake of debunker bashing. 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-16-2002 09:37 PM
damn chem your fabricating lies again :Oh yeah... I remember. There was this guy back in the day that we used to call Bonehead. During his post-HS summer break he decided to drop LSD every day. Because of the tolerance he built up, he was up to a 30-40 hits a shot. you should know that you can't take lsd the day after or even days after...there is no tolerance tuit and your statement is bogus... btw who the dipshit that keeps blowin the margins ? ------------------
T/S
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 09:42 PM
I forgive you A/T. The enigmatic Vin Diesel, poised to become a new-style Schwarzenegger in ''XXX'', says he was destined to become a superstar. Read how he broke through, in an excerpt from Entertainment Weekly's Aug. 2, 2002, cover story by Benjamin Svetkey
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,330344~1~0~vindieselonxxx,00.html
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA
456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 10:05 PM
I love these stereotypes! Classics! Join the military and you'll wind up homeless passing out porn. Or the only people that join the military are druggies. The military performs a drug test when you join. If your "friend" happened to make it through that, he probably didn't make it through another one later if he really did have a huge problem with drugs. And THAT could very well explain why he's on the street passing out porn, NOT the military. They do have drug counselors. Sure, you're still gonna get the boot, but they try to help you out. Unfortunately, most people don't understand that it takes a bit of personal strength to overcome any addiction, and most wind up blaming someone, or something, for their problems. Back to the chemtrail fiasco. Your "expert witness" in Chicago can be easily picked apart. "...which was very low" They all looked pretty high to me. Contrails can expand to be very wide, often hundreds or thousands of feet wide, giving the illusion of being low. I've personally witnessed commercial airliners leaving contrails that were 4-5 times wider than the airplane. "If this is 'normal water vapor' from engines, how does one
explain the three obvious lines being sprayed below? I haven't seen any three engine planes lately" The photo with the three lines shows three seperate contrails that are several miles apart laterally, but I can't be too certain on altitude. It's entirely possible that all three aircraft were on parallel routing, something I've done myself. Or they could have been formed by aircraft travelling in opposite directions, but still along the same routing. As for three engined aircraft, I can name several: DC-10, MD-11, KC-10, Falcon 900, Falcon 50, L-1011, 727, and a couple of Russian designs. All are capable of creating contrails. And all are still used today. "How do
the lines cut on and off and taper" That's a much more complex answer, because so many variables play into contrail formation. RH and engine output are two that do vary throughout the flight. If the air is near saturation in one spot, but slightly below the threshold for contrail formation a few miles down the road, it would appear that the contrail is turning on and off. Next time you watch a jet fly overhead, keep in mind that they are flying at 8 miles a minute. So when it turns off for several seconds, the jet has covered nearly a mile in horizontal distance. As for the power changes, if the engines are providing just enough water vapor/soot to be conducive to contrail formation, and the crew elects to either slow down or descend and pulls the power, it may not form contrails. When they push the power back up to level off or to accelerate or hold their speed, it may again resume contrail formation. Again, this is something I've seen on my own up there as well. There is a correlation to contrail formation and power setting.
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Alpha-Theta
Superior
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 10:09 PM
Seeker, It was Jay Reynolds who @#^$#^ up the margin by posting an oversized IMAGE. 
My code (and Chem's) is checked. Pacer just fyi I wasn't trying to generalize it just strikes me as funny that 'Bonehead' of all people is a marine. I guess the irony is that he basically fits the classic stereotype. I'm not saying all Rines are knuckleheads, although I think most of them are. Just my opinion, not a stereotype.
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA
456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 10:24 PM
Well, considering what Marines have to do, you either have to have cajones the size of grapefruits, or be a knucklehead to storm a beach under heavy fire with nothing to use as cover.I was referring to the overall military stereotype that we (military folks) get deluded with all the death around us (I have yet to see anyone die), can't sleep, get divorced and wind up pushing a shopping cart. After all, doesn't it seem like all of the homeless guys on the street corners hold signs saying "please help- Vietnam vet" even though they aren't much more than 30-40 years old?
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 08-16-2002 10:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by theseeker:
btw who the dipshit that keeps blowin the margins ?
sheesh.
There, are you happy now?
Maybe its time to replace that 13" trinitron with a real monitor.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-16-2002 11:44 PM
B/H,90% of the traffic that hits my site uses 800 x 600...and I'm one of them...OK you and larry with his unlimited margins in his e-mail program wear me OUT ! just do height=400 and width=500 and we'll all be happy...
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T/S
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-17-2002 08:29 AM
I hate to disagree with an expert on the subject, but human beings *do* develop a tolerance to LSD.And you'd have to do a spinal tap if you wanted to test for it. A UA won't catch it, Pacer. quote:
you should know that you can't take lsd the day after or even days after...there is no tolerance tuit...
The first part is semi-correct. You can take as much as you like, you just won't get off unless you megadose (which makes the last part of your statement nonsensical. The reason Bonehead couldn't get off and started dropping like a madman was because of the tolerance factor). Now, whether, the walls started melting on a daily basis or not I don't know... but the man did his level best to try to go on a three month long trip (and wound up with a four-year hitch instead). I'm sorry if the story somehow offends you, Pacer. It obviously wasn't my intention to portray everyone who joins the military as legally insane and headed for the homeless shelter when they got out. But you do take your chances.
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PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA
456 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 08-17-2002 10:24 PM
You take chances the moment you're born. I seriously doubt the military has anything to do with being a loser in life.
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