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eyesopen
This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 09-14-2002 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just another typical day again:

the sky is filled with white jets a'chemming. Here's 2 with some togetherness (contrast adjusted for your viewing pleasure):

Lots of this:

Funny thing. The white jet that made the older, thicker "contrail" in that last photo, "lost" it's trail and flew away...

A few more jets would cut through too:

You know, the usual:


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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 09-21-2002 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the past three days:

Chembow on day 1:

Morning of day 2 - large diagonal chem (one of many that morning):

Today. Hot, humid and max haze. Still chemming right now:

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 09-25-2002 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturation to the max today. Large sunring here, photo shows it best at 9:00 and 12:00:

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-03-2002 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from today:

large white jet flys up without contrail and then starts making small puffs shown here. At one point, only one side of the jet was making a contrail - one side had nothing. here it is flying off with no contrail:

a few minutes later this white jet flys by with no contrail although heavy contrails are beginning to line up in the distance:

yet another white jet flys by right after those other two, having no contrail at all. This one starts to have a contrail after a while though shown here at first start:

here is the start of one the persistant "contrails":

Getting VERY hazy here now...

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-09-2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, the number of views on this post always gets "restarted". It's happened enough times to make me wonder. Anyway some photos from today:

Usually when Roman or other Ohio posters say they have been hit, I get it here the next day or so. I watched the "nice looking cirrus clouds" as Canex would say come in with many white jets flying over. Funny how the air traffic increases when the nice looking cirrus clouds show up. here is one of them:

The turning on point always is a little broken up:

This one stops the "contrail" through this break in the, err, clouds. You think it is to hide it better?

I see this jet off in the distance and I snap a couple photos (put together here as one). I was waiting for the contrail to "change" into a giant spray as often seen but this one just goes over. Very hard to see these normal contrails from a distance:

Here's one for comparison. This one came from the same appx. location. This one spread out and is isn't going anywhere.


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Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-10-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more from yesterday:

This one left a GIANT trail:

Chembow from the heavy chems:

Check this out. This Air Force jet came in so low I could read the numbers on it's side. I could have waved to the pilots. I didn't get the numbers because I was pretty surprised. But it said Airforce and was gray with a black nose:

It then flew off in it's cloud of exhaust. Kind of coincidental to see on a heavy chem day huh?

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit


Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000

posted 10-10-2002 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the usual excellent documentation, eyesopen. As you know, we see pretty much the same thing down here as you're seeing.

By the way, how are you feeling today? Like sh-t? I am. Sorry to be so blunt. This cloyingly humid surface air is NOT what we are used to at this time of year in New England.

Quite a show today, eh?

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 10-10-2002 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Eyesopen !You do get the same treatment that We get here in Ohio.roman...

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-11-2002 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Deborah, Actually yesterday I WAS feeling horrible. A family member is really suffering too. Through the little patches of white-blue today I can still see them at it. This plus the world's situation (coming war) are enough to bring anyone down.

Roman: yep, without fail - I get the hammering you get a day or two later.

Pretty bizarre seeing chems all over and then that airforce jet fly by so low I could read the numbers on it's side...

And they are still at it now...

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, as predicted - chems today. Others posted that Ohio area got it good yesterday and right on call they are coming through now. There are a dozen or so spreading trails just in my view and they are definately spreading into a "cloud" cover. This has happened just since this morning when the day started out all blue. Oh some fly through older chems leaving just a contrail but kind of hard to argue against the dozens of jets flying over right now - this amount of air traffic ONLY happens on chem days. I will post more photos later if any stand out:

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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002

posted 10-15-2002 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great picture's eyesopen,horrible scene. I hope you are feeling better,god bless you and your family member's.

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Emfx, they are doing a real number over here today.

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the "front" or whatever you want to call it coming my way. It is beginning to reach me now and is bringing all these jets and chems with it:

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit


Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000

posted 10-15-2002 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10/15/02 - 03:00pm EDT

Haze Cam Pollution Visibility Network
Haze Cam Image - Boston, MA - 02:46pm
http://www.hazecam.net/boston.html

Current GOES-8 Eastern US Visible Satellite Image
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/browse2.html

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eyesopen -

It certainly didn't take long today, did it, for the sky to change from clear with a few incoming spreaders from the WNW to a complete WHITE-OUT, including sunring, scattered patches of full-spectrum iridescence and a thin layer of aerosol blanketing the entire region? Trailing ongoing as I write. A real mess, as I know you'll agree.

So, what's going on here? All these aircraft we're seeing - are their flight paths being modified in order to minimize contrail formation over that front that's approaching from the south?

National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Langley Research Center
Hampton, Virginia 23681-2199
http://www.larc.nasa.gov/news_and_events/inside_pages/2002/02-035.html

For Release May 13, 2002
RELEASE NO. 02-035
NASA Scientists Use Empty Skies to Study Climate Change

Excerpt:

.....DR. PATRICK MINNIS: "If scientists determine that contrails are negatively impacting climate change, we could minimize their formation by predicting where they will occur and then suggesting alternate flight altitudes accordingly, when feasible,".....

15 April 1998
Academic Press: Daily inScight
http://www.academicpress.com/inscight/04151998/grapha.htm

Excerpt:

.....NASA researchers used geostationary satellites to continuously track three sets of contrails over California and the southern United States in spring 1996. The contrails, floating at altitudes of about 10 kilometers, lasted between 7 and 17 hours and expanded to enormous sizes by catalyzing the growth of a larger cloud with more ice. One cloud reached 35,000 square kilometers--the size of Indiana.

At such extents, no satellite or ground-based instrument would recognize the clouds as having arisen from contrails, says atmospheric scientist Patrick Minnis of NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. If more high clouds that look like natural cirrus are old contrails in disguise, Minnis says, "that could have a strong regional effect on climate.".....

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not too hard to miss the show today is it Deborah? More:

Lake Auburn has scores of jets flying over, would have been quite scenic otherwise. Mostly jets were in groups of 2 or more like here:

I took 70 or so photos out at the lake. Hmmm, what to show? Here is an interesting sequence. Three jets close together start changing direction:

Their contrails all were the same a distance back:

I won't show all of their paths but here's one:

Here is where the "contrail" went back to regular size:

that was not the only or the sharpest direction change over the lake either. On the way home another typical shot of 3 or 4 jets in a frame making more mess (hard to see here):


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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some lines across Maine for you:

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit


Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000

posted 10-15-2002 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eyesopen -

Great photos as usual. Thanks.

The sky down here was covered with a blanket of aerosol by between 2:00 and 3:00 this afternoon.

What direction were those planes in your photos coming from - and in what direction were they making that turn over the lake?

Very interesting inset in the one shot there.

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-15-2002 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looked like North to South with turns to the East. It looks like there are still recent chems in the moonlight...

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 10-15-2002 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get ready for more of the same Eyesopen. They gave it to us hard today all day long. roman...

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ellobosolo
Howlin' at the moon!


Dayton,Oh,U.S.A.
100 posts, Jun 2002

posted 10-17-2002 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellobosolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone catch the Weather Channel story on how contrails are forming ice clouds? This theory was presented to explain the random occurrances of ice balls falling from the sky...Guess I'll buy a hard hat, what with the number of trails seen on a continuing basis, it's going to be dangerous around here!

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-21-2002 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well after a three day break in Auburn they are back once again. I did not see ANY air affic for three days and now the usual dozens of jets fly overhead that precede/follow fronts.

Here is one that did a pretty major U-turn and in the process grew a giant trail:

of course many jets flying through the same space didn't feel the need to make extra large "contrails":

This guy was also flying around in circles over head - lost? Funny how on chem days I see a lot of low flying airforce planes about:

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-25-2002 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We had a couple of really clear nights here but they are back. I watched the parade of jets fly over today - at first no chems but now they are laying them down. Here you can see some of their progress:

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 10-25-2002 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi eyesopen! Could you please post the url for the satellite pic you just posted?? I would love to have it available to monitor Texas from "above".

Thanx, and keep us posted on the east coast "muckity-muck"!

Blessings to you and yours,

MollyGainYa

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UntilWeMeetAgain...

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This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-25-2002 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh I have so many links to post for you! I bet some people wish these weren't available... here's a couple for now:
http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goes8conus.html
http://nimbo.wrh.noaa.gov/Medford/sat/vis4km.html
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/data/
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/west/latest_westvis.gif

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/geo/east/

Enjoy!

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 10-25-2002 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You!, Thank You!, eyesopen!! I just spent the last hour clicking on each link and experimenting with views of Texas and with animations of current visibilities, etc., etc. What a blast! I just hate watching the local weather radar on the Weather Channel or on the talking heads' channels because the images are too fast to catch the trails being made. NO LONGER!!

Thanks again, and you're right; I bet TPTB wish those sites weren't so readily available to the public. Probably won't be much longer...

Blessings to you,

MollyGainYa


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UntilWeMeetAgain...

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