posted 08-30-2002 02:15 PM            

It was hazy everywhere I went. From Atlanta, GA to Gulfport, Mississippi. Thick, thick haze resting everywhere, and from above the clouds the chemical haze and billowing chemcloud formations everywhere.

On my way home heading north and west, it got dark before I lost the chemical trail. I presume the chemical trails probablty extend further west than Kansas City but it got dark so I couldn't track this stuff anymore.

Seems as if the entire continental US in under the thick chemical haze.

Anywhere where this stuff isn't?

We even flew through one of these things.

posted 08-31-2002 12:35 AM            

I will have to say I agree with you, but from the Pacific Northwest all the way down into Northern Calif.

Left Seattle yesterday (Thursday) on a flight down to the SF Bay Area. From the time we left until touch down, there was nothing, but haze everywhere.

I saw huge amounts of this stuff off the Pacific Coast blowing inland for miles and miles. Along with this were the remains of fires in Oregon which added to the foul mix. As I was leaving yesterday I saw a fairly large X and along side it was a singular line which looked like two Roman numerals side by side. If you looked at it from one direction it could be read as the number 9 and if you looked from the other direction it could be read as the number 11.....pretty wierd!!!

posted 08-31-2002 06:02 AM            

From my own observation you can usually see the ground from above if you are looking fairly straight down. As you start to look in the direction of the horizon you can see the build up of haze to the point where thats all you see with no ground visible.

A couple of times we flew directly into a thick "chem cloud" and you could only see the cloud all around with nothing really visible. I dislike calling this crud in the sky "clouds", because they are not, but for lack of a better description....

There have been complaints by many that commercial airliners recycle the air too much and restrict incoming breathable air from outside the plane. People have said this is causing passengers to become ill etc,. Im wondering in these type of conditions maybe its better we dont breath too much of the outside air!!!

posted 09-01-2002 11:25 AM            

That is a truly startling photo of the NE. And that's exactly hows the southeast looks from above, as well as the northwest.

And I suppose it's how the entire continental US looks from above.

Does the entire earth look this way?

It sure is heavy heavy chem-haze out in Oregon these past two days. Just awful. Almost a complete chemical overcast.

posted 09-04-2002 09:52 PM            

This has to be a joke. Klondike flies on an airplane once, and his observations are taken as Gospel.

posted 09-08-2002 11:48 PM            

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The jet contrails to not specifically cause the haze and it is insane to think that a spraying program of such magnitude could be run without clear evidence to the effect becoming readily available to the public

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How is the effect supposed to be readily available to the public? Do you or anyone you know own a Digisonde? Can you discern what is floating around in the upper atmosphere with your naked eye? Of course you can't, so spare us your pretentious blabber. You see there are certain particulates that stay suspended for long periods of time. This is science. Most of the particulates being dispersed are actually rising, and ultimately are becoming integrated with the earths radiation belts and electrojet. The orgone issue is insignificant. It's been widely suppressed and basically deals with the density of types of ions. It has nothing to do with the modulation of the electrojet, nor the dispersion of smelted particulates.

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The haze is caused by over population and its polluting influence among other things

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You think that is science?? bwuhahaha!! You probably believe in global warming too, don't you? Again, feel free to post relevant DATA if such data exists. If not, perhaps you should be a bit more cordial.

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Chemtrails are a myth being promoted by Rense and company to make money off of lazy-minded people who don't investigate the truth all of the way and who allow themselves to be influenced by myth peddlers

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That's simply hilarious. Rense doesn't 'promote' chemtrails, they publish testimony of people around the country. As far as investigating the truth all the way you are no one to speak. You pretentiously refer to DOR repeatedly, with no hard data or scientific evidence to support your claims. And the manner in which you are doing so is simply presumptuous and obnoxious. Af far as people being 'myth peddlers', that's not something anyone should be classified as, generally, how you would attempt to classify them.

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Another myth being promoted by Rense and company is Reptilianism where the royal families of the world are actually alien creatures who look like reptiles underneath their human disguises (David Icke etc...).

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Hmm I don't believe I've seen that. Would you care to provide a link? Surely you're not exaggerating or misinterpreting anything.

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This chemtrail business just clouds the issues associated with this haze and make people want to ignore important issues

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Yes it does cloud the issue, literally. There are a number of important issues. One of which happens to be the dispersion of chemicals all over the globe.

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No clear evidence of a spraying program has ever been produced. It is a myth people. It is a lie!

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