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Topic: Nick Begich On Jeff Rense Tonight! | Topic page views:
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Unhappy Trails
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Seattle, WA
256 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-19-2002 04:38 PM
  
Dr.Nick Begich, co-author of 'Angel's Don't Play This HAARP' will be discussing 'New Worries about HAARP' this evening on the Jeff Rense Program. Don't miss it!
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-20-2002 11:29 AM
I missed it.  U/T or anybody could you provide me with a brief summary?
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Unhappy Trails
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
256 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-20-2002 12:11 PM
You didn't miss much Alpha. They really didn't go into a lot of detail about HAARP unfortuneately. Dr.Begich's New Worries were in reference to the Soviets concerns about the U.S. unleashing this technology in Iraq. Nothing we haven't heard before and very generalized. He talked about climate change a little, how the Alaskan waters have warmed 15-20 degrees thus triggering mosquitos and a decline in the fishing industry. That was about it A/T. Rather disappointing really. One interesting thing did happen though....10 minutes before the program was to start, some strange static wiped out the radio signals so we couldn't listen to it on our radio. Had to use media player on my computer to listen to it. Thought that was real interesting.
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-20-2002 12:56 PM
Wow. I would have expected something a little deeper from Dr. Begich. It all sounds fishy to me. lol. I was hoping maybe he was going to elaborate on tesla waves/quaternions/scalars/tensors/unified field theory/orthogontal or longitudinal waves. It all relates to the hertzian conspiracy and the attempted disclusion of anything more than 3 'applicable' dimensions, and accordingly why hertz cannot properly measure ALL 'types' of electromagnetic signals and waves. Nevertheless, It will only be a matter of time before these so 'called' mystic technologies are clearly revealed. Thanks for the update U/T.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 09-21-2002 06:54 PM
i am not that surprized
we went down to the second annual conspriacy conference
in San Jose California this Memorial day
partly to hear Nick speak
it was quite disappointing
if you read his books you knew MORE than he said
but you have to understand HOW his father died
and WHO became the embasidor to the Vatican
and WHO drove her to the airport
hint (william J Clinton)
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 09-21-2002 07:01 PM
Nicks father was a congressman from Alaska
(HARRP) who brokered a deal where the native americans could develope the oil
and recieve royalties and get rich
as well as those who actually moved that oil
to Japan
so you see "national security" was in play once again
but Nicks father got into a p[lane with
an nouther congressman who was on the Warren Commishion
(the assasination of JFK)
\they crashed shortly thereafter
and the USAF tracked the flight
and took several months to stall the resquethis other congressmans wife
kept her kool
and became the US ambasitor
to the Vatican
Bill Clinton drove her to the airport
before we ever heard his sorry monicer ProVe Me WroNg
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Nirvana
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 09-21-2002 11:10 PM
I saw Begich speak here in Seattle last year. He said he not believe in chemtrails and thinks they are natural. As for HAARP/Scalar, I get the impression that Bearden knows more of the real meat of what's going on.
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-21-2002 11:38 PM
Bearden claims that free energy hence 'longitudinal waves' are a product of time. Begich opens the door for people to undertand the power and potential of tesla apparatus and relative frequencies, pulsing, and phasing. Dr. Begich, it seems, has submitted to the pressures of mass media and perception control. However he was one of the first to open quite a few peoples eyes as to what haarp is... and haarp is but a small part of the 'ionojects'.... I think the bottom line is that neither one of them tell the whole story. The difference in my opinion is that Bearden is blatantly lying about the basis of scalars and Begich is somewhat narrow minded as to the total operation/intent.
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Nirvana
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 09-22-2002 11:19 AM
I don't know how you get the idea that Bearden may be lying. Are you academically qualified to judge Alpha-Theta? Bearden just wrote a 900 page book on the subject of free energy, holds multiple advanced science degrees, and has a patent on a free energy device. Dr. Begich has a PhD in Complimentary Medicine. I agree Dr. Begich brought helped the masses become aware of HAARP. I'm not criticizing him. His heart is certainly in the right place.
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-22-2002 02:03 PM
I haven't read his book. I have read much of his 'website', and what I did read was clearly enough to convince me that he is lying about the origination of longitudinal waves. quote:
multiple advanced science degrees,
I have a masters of science, I'm not sure what exactly an 'advanced science degree' would conist of. ROFL. The fact is that when it comes down to actually applying his technology, the concept of electrogravitation is what channels longitudinal waves, not time. How about this Nirvana, do a little research on scalars, quaternions, and tensors. Once you feel like you have a base or fundamental knowledge of these topics, especially quaternions, re-read Beardens patent and relative articles and see what YOU think at that point. Personally I have no doubt that the technology exists, but he is definitely attempting to hide it's source by claiming that it is harnessed from 'spacetime', when it's actually a gravitational vaccuum. And that's not Beardens technology btw. Much like HAARP and HIPAS aren't bernard eastlund's, but yet they both still hold relative patents. Nikola Tesla is responsible for initially harnessing orthogonal and longitudinal waves and creating relative apparatus. Wilhelm Reich was the first ever to create a free energy device. Nirvana, If you really believe Bearden is honest that is your choice. I just think you're making a mistake in believing so. Only so much of what he says is accurate, IMO. Also, you claim that i 'Judged' tom bearden. I haven't claimed that he should be damned or that he is a peice of shit. All I said is that he is lying about the basis of scalars. Do the 'math' for yourself. Longitudinal waves originate in the 5th dimension known as Gravity. This is something that colleges don't even teach. Only government and contracted agencies know this to be truth. And they are trying to keep it this way, which is why the origination of longitudinal waves has been completely misconveyed. In all honesty though, you can go ahead and take Tom Beardens word for it. I really don't care. Maybe he can point you in the right direction regarding other issues in your life, since his infinite wisdom should not be questioned, at least not in your mind.
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Nirvana
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 09-22-2002 06:08 PM
A-T. As you have read most of Tom's huge website, you have probably read his biosketch at http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/foreword.htm Can you please tell us what discipline your Master's degree is? My background is not in engineering, so frankly I cannot be a judge of the real theory behind free energy devices. I am however, impressed with Mr. Beardens qualifications. You called Bearden a "liar" and I questioned how you reached that conclusion. Everyone is certainly entitled to his or her opinion. We'll see who comes up with such a device first. If Bearden does it, that will prove his theory. We have yet to see. As for "other issues in my life", that obviously has nothing to do with free energy devices. Let's not get personal here. ===================== BIOSKETCH: A nuclear engineer, wargames analyst, and military tactician, Lieutenant Colonel (Retired) Tom Bearden has over 26 years experience in air defense systems, tactics and operations; technical intelligence, anti-radiation missile countermeasures; nuclear weapons employment, computerized wargames; and military systems requirements.
He is currently with the Alabama division of a large aerospace company where he is involved in determining the future requirements for laser weapons.
Lieutenant Colonel Bearden obtained a Master of Science degree in nuclear engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology and a Bachelor of Science degree in mathematics from Northeast Louisiana University. He is also a graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College and several U.S. Army artillery and missile schools.
He has had direct experience with tube artillery and with the Ajax, Hercules, Hawk, and Patriot missile systems and the production of technical intelligence on Soviet surface-to-air missile systems for the U.S. Army/Department of Defense.
Tom holds a Sandan (third degree black belt) in Yoseikan aikido; is a singer, guitarist and songwriter; member of Mensa, Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained, Vestigia, the American Association of Meta-Science: and is on the board of governors of the U.S. Psychotronics Association. In addition, he is Alabama Director of a small nonprofit foundation, the Association of Distinguished American Scientists and is a MUFON adviser on nuclear engineering.
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-22-2002 08:28 PM
funny, free energy and quaternions have nothing to do with nuclear engineering. ROFL. Like I said nirvana, do the research for yourself, and then read Tom Bearden's proclamations. Then decide for yourself. I'm not one to boast about my accomplishments and accredidations but I assure you that it's not that dissimilar from Beardens, except for nuclear engineering of course. My MS is in Psychology. http://conflict.netfirms.com/bio.html This is all irrelevant in my opinion. I tell you what, Nirvana, just go ahead and believe whatever you want, ok. I am done trying to suggest things that I would simply hope open minds would look into or consider, but rarely is this ultimately the case. peace. Again, even though tom bearden has the patent for the device, wilhelm reich first created it some decades ago, at which point the government suppressed it. DO you know what scalars are? Do you know what quaternions are? You asking me who I am to question Tom Bearden. Well with the mentality I could ask who you are to question me. My point is that a lot of supeficial accredidaion, in reality, means nothing. Aslo the fact that he used to be employed by the government is even more incentive for me to believe that he is suppressing/misconveying a great deal of information. Also I was employed for over 2 years by a electronic monitoring/surveillance firm, at which I personally was involved in r&D, field testing, and application and maintenance of numerous electromagnetic devices including:
EEG
FMD
voice verification
Juris
various types of Xmitters/Xsponders
microchip synch
biometrics
telemetrics
gps systems
gait projects
and other hand help apparatus I really can't go into detail on. I realize my experience is limited but I have been exposed to many aspects of electromagnetics and relative potentials that most people are completely oblivious to. Also, Coincidentally, I am highly skilled at Tae Kwon Do and have knowledge of other forms such as kenpo, jujitsu, and judo.
a relative link about beardens patent: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000003.html
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Nirvana
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 02:28 PM
Ok A-T. Let's see what unfolds in this area of technology. Peace.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 09-26-2002 02:52 AM
damn theta...all those educational qualifications, the extremely detailed and complicated electronic work of yours...and you never knew 20hz existed...flat out said it was a lie....my...my...should I post the link or did you edit it already ? no matter I bet it's saved...somewhere... I think your full of shit and talking to yourself...just like.... Very Electric Co-operative ------------------
T/S
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-26-2002 03:08 AM
and you are entiteld to think whatever you like Seeker.  Thanks for sharin'. Btw, a number of the devices mentioned are non-hertzian devices. This means that they are electromagnetic devices that are strictly measured in cycles per second, not hertz. Hell I bet you don't know what half of those devices/technologies are. But of course why would you go out of your way to address anything relevant . ROFL
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 09-26-2002 03:17 AM
GOTCHA !btw, toad....parametric on the audio level, deals with octaves of the *sound* spectrum, quite a bit more sophisticated than your average eq...a parametric equalizer can actually *burn* up the speaker it is used on... you'd figure a master in science would know that... har...har... ------------------
T/S
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-26-2002 03:25 AM
who said anything about 'parametric' audio and spare me your car audio analogies. ROFL. BtW, lighten up, it's that time o' year 
And I may be a toad but it is my destiny to be kissed by a princess. Your destiny as a delusional 'bat' is not so bright. hehe.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 09-26-2002 03:35 AM
LOL !not here it's not...(yodaism) and btw, >>>parametric<<< you did toad...your a bad toad...bad taod !...lol...
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000218-2.html on the overnight again eh ? so sad....with a masters and all... ------------------
T/S
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-26-2002 03:49 AM
I peviously stated: quote:
PAC - Physical Acoustics
anybody care to explain parametric effects? how about mode coupling?
ponderomotive effects?
nonlinear wave propagation?
You answered that with:
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parametric on the audio level, deals with octaves of the *sound* spectrum, quite a bit more sophisticated than your average eq...a parametric equalizer can actually *burn* up the speaker it is used on
You have not explained the effects of parametrics. Nor can you explain the relativity of mode coupling. And ponderomotive effects and non-linear wave propogation.. that must be like alien terminology to someone like yourself. What exactly are paremetric effects, by definition, Seeker? Let's see if you can accurately answer that. The ball is in your court, and I know that you can't shoot for shit. But go ahead and try. According to seeker the only validated effect of parametrics is to 'burn up speakers'. How insightful and elaborate. Btw I wasn't referring to parametric 'equalizers', necessarily.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 09-26-2002 03:59 AM
kinda like you previously stated... 20hz does not exist eh theta ?>>>You have not explained the effects of parametrics.<<< sure I did toad...extremely damaging... nite toad...
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T/S
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Alpha-Theta
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694 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-26-2002 04:04 AM
Sure seeker, not only have you abused the word toad in a deragotory manner, repeatedly, you stil fail go provide any type of genuine knowlede or awareness as to what parametric effects are. They do not differ in terms of frequency, necessarily. Seeker you know what I mean about 20hz. Yes 20hz 'exists' but it's not an adequate definition of a wagelength. It's not the full truth. It only tells half the story, kinda like you seem to always do.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-05-2002 06:08 PM
Jeff Rense is a fraud and probably generates his own static and interferes with his own broadcasts. He never has anyone worth hearing on his show. No seriously dangerous truth ever makes onto the airwaves.
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