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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-05-2002 05:52 PM
  
Cloud cover can take on a marvelous organic-geometric quality when a draw bucket is run in the low-lying areas of a city where deadly orgone normally accumulates (keep the pipes horizontal to avoid screwing up the weather and avoid running a cloudbuster as these devices are dangerous in the hands of neurotic laymen). Wavy patterns in clouds indicate that the area is taking on an alive, pulsative quality associated with orgone energy pulsation and is not an indicator that "chemtrail" activity is present. Chemtrail stories are a scare tactic designed to lead people astray from realizing the truth about nature. People who believe these scare tactics are "fruit being ripened on the vine" for eventual Dionysian-style, political slaughter. This is how Liberal "X-Files" folk are being manipulated now.
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 10-05-2002 07:43 PM
***OH BOLOGNA***
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-05-2002 08:26 PM
I'm sure you have observed the chemtrail sprayers being turned on and off, leaving a pattern that looks like this: trail space trail space, etc--as I have. I'm also sure you have observed jets flying side by side, with one jet having its short comet-like contrail and the other jet spewing out miles and miles of chemtrails--as I have. I'm also sure you have observed a jet run out of the chemtrail substance, and then proceed to continue flying with only its normally short comet-like contrail being observed--as I have. Finally, I'm sure you enjoyed beautiful natural clouds in the area in which you lived for many, many years precisely because of the beauty of the area, then began to see these long horizon to horizon chemtrails, which you observed expanding out to create a haze over the entire area in which you lived, or trails which developed into strange looking cottonball-like puffy clouds which again expanded out--as I have.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-05-2002 09:28 PM
Just this afternoon, while I was out observing the thin layer of high altitude, geometric-looking cloud cover that appeared after I began operating my draw bucket, I witnessed a jet fly over at between eighteen and twenty-thousand feet and begin leaving a beautiful contrail behind just as it flew through the cloud cover and then cease leaving a contrail as it flew out of the cloud cover and into open sky. The contrails then fanned out into nice looking cloud formations that merged very beautifully with the interesting cloud formations that were already there. I have never witnessed contrails descend to the ground, and haze can be the result of humidity in the area just as easily as it can be a dor haze. One can learn to tell the difference over time. Spray tends to fall like spray rather than like haze.Did you actually witness a device turn on and off, or did you just happen to see a contrail form in a small area that would allow for the formation of a contrail that failed to disipate (meteorological phenomena)? It helps to spend time thinking about what you witnessed so that the habit of having information dawn on you can develop. I have never seen much of what you described and it would be silly of me to trust what you are saying because you could be some masochistic professional lier working for the likes of Jeff Rense or David Icke (Icke has these kinds of people working for him). Cities tend to be hazy environments for a complex variety of reasons and it pays to do your homework and also think things through completely so that rationalizations may be dispelled effectively. Chemtrails are a hoax.
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-05-2002 11:16 PM
I failed to mention the very long stringy chemtrails (two strings of trails on either side of the exhaust area of the jet, as opposed to the long thick chemtrails that are very often observed) which then expand out and form the wispy "clouds" that have become so prevalent these days.
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wildwest120
New Member
Outside Kansas City,Missouri
26 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-06-2002 08:50 AM
A scare tactic? As you step outside with your morning coffee and greet the new day and choke as your throat becomes sore and cough as the smell of pesticide drips from your organic garden!! Yah i am scared for the kids that dont understand and the parents that think it is some flu bug as the hospitals fill with new customers. But you also say orgone and cloudbuster pipes,so
chembusters is another pitstop or a roadmap?
If HHG kept one more person from getting sick would it be worth it? Unless no one is close to you??
If we took 1 billion of the spray dollars and started planting trees then the greenhouse effect would start to change more naturally wouldn't it?? Since they have 4.5 billion and are asking for 565 million more???------------------
STOP THE SPRAYING
Drought+Death=IT AINT
WORKING
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-06-2002 10:00 AM
You might look into aerodynamics and discover that contrails often form at the wingtips of jets for aerodynamic reasons. The exhaust that comes out the back of a jet expands and cools rapidly and contrails form right where it is most likely to form given relative airpressure and the wing tips is one of those places where air pressure drops most rapidly. As for pesticides dripping from your garden; I would say this is nonsense and scare-tactic because I live in a city and jets fly by all of the time and, sorry, but no pesticides anywhere. People get asthma and get sick, but from dor and pollution or else just bad city lifestyle.I don't run a cloudbuster and chembusters a merely harmful because they keep clouds from forming into proper weather. Cloudbusters are powerful devices that are applied for only a few hours at a time over the course of a few days, sometimes stretched out over a rainy season. They cause drought when mishandled by paranoid folk wearing gas masks and aluminum hats. I would be ill by now if my device were a cloudbuster and there would be no weather in my area.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-06-2002 10:13 AM
One reason interesting new cloud formations are "so prevalent these days" over cities is because many cities are less polluted compared with a decade and a half back when brown clouds were more prevalent than anything because cars emit less emissions these days and cities are "coming back alive" more often throughtout the year. Cloud formations are often more geometric in appearance and jet contrails spread out into pretty cloud formations that stick around for a long time and spread out into wavy clouds. I notice this happening all of the time and no pesticides or chemicals make it to the ground here. This is just another boring city, only now the sky can sparkle with living clarity on many days of the year.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-06-2002 11:51 AM
A classification of cloud forms was first made (1801) by French naturalist Jean Lamarck. In 1803, Luke Howard, an English scientist, devised a classification that was adopted by the International Meteorological Commission (1929), designating three primary cloud types, cirrus, cumulus, and stratus, and their compound forms, which are still used today in modified form. Today's classification has four main divisions: high clouds, 20,000 to 40,000 ft (6,100–12,200 m); intermediate clouds, 6,500 to 20,000 ft (1,980–6,100 m); low clouds, near ground level to 6,500 ft (1,980 m); and clouds with vertical development, 1,600 ft to over 20,000 ft (490–6,100 m).High cloud forms include cirrus, detached clouds of delicate and fibrous appearance, generally white in color, often resembling tufts or featherlike plumes, and composed entirely of ice crystals; cirrocumulus (mackerel sky), composed of small white flakes or very small globular masses, arranged in groups, lines, or ripples; and cirrostratus, a thin whitish veil, sometimes giving the entire sky a milky appearance, which does not blur the outline of the sun or moon but frequently produces a halo. Intermediate clouds include altocumulus, patchy layer of flattened globular masses arranged in groups, lines, or waves, with individual clouds sometimes so close together that their edges join; and altostratus, resembling thick cirrostratus without halo phenomena, like a gray veil, through which the sun or the moon shows vaguely or is sometimes completely hidden. Low clouds include stratocumulus, a cloud layer or patches composed of fairly large globular masses or flakes, soft and gray with darker parts, arranged in groups, lines, or rolls, often with the rolls so close together that their edges join; stratus, a uniform layer resembling fog but not resting on the ground; and nimbostratus, a nearly uniform, dark grey layer, amorphous in character and usually producing continuous rain or snow. Clouds having vertical development include cumulus, a thick, detached cloud, generally associated with fair weather, usually with a horizontal base and a dome-shaped upper surface that frequently resembles a head of cauliflower and shows strong contrasts of light and shadow when the sun illuminates it from the side, and cumulonimbus, the thunderstorm cloud, heavy masses of great vertical development whose summits rise in the form of mountains or towers, the upper parts having a fibrous texture, often spreading out in the shape of an anvil, and sometimes reaching the stratosphere. Cumulonimbus generally produces showers of rain, snow, hailstorms, or thunderstorms.
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 10-06-2002 05:46 PM
K.S. I usually don't waste any time at all with smart ass intellectuals as with the likes of you."Did you actually witness a device turn on and off, or did you just happen to see a contrail form in a small area that would allow for the formation of a contrail that failed to disipate (meteorological phenomena)? It helps to spend time thinking about what you witnessed so that the habit of having information dawn on you can develop. I have never seen much of what you described and it would be silly of me to trust what you are saying because you could be some masochistic professional lier working for the likes of Jeff Rense or David Icke (Icke has these kinds of people working for him). Cities tend to be hazy environments for a complex variety of reasons and it pays to do your homework and also think things through completely so that rationalizations may be dispelled effectively. Chemtrails are a hoax." Just who do you think you are insulting the intelligence of the majority posting on CTC??? Just how much are you paid to spread disimformation? Much more could be said to you but my code of decency prevents me from stooping to your level.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-06-2002 06:41 PM
Kehphra Sol wrote:.....Cloud formations are often more geometric in appearance and jet contrails spread out into pretty cloud formations that stick around for a long time and spread out into wavy clouds.....
Glad you're enjoying the "pretty cloud formations" generated by "spreading contrails."
Got any photos?
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-07-2002 01:44 PM
The day here in the Inland Northwest began with very clear blue skies with a few natural clouds interspersed here and there, just as the night had been. The chemtrail spray program began early and aggressively. By 9:30 a.m. the sky overhead was completely covered with chemtrail-created "clouds." By 12 noon, all of these "clouds" had been blown to the north, leaving a clear blue sky over the rest of area and a very thick "cloud" cover covering the north side of the sky. Natural clouds could still be seen surrounding the horizon, along with a few interspersed throughout the sky generally.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-07-2002 09:21 PM
I begin operating my draw bucket. A low pressure area immediately forms over the draw bucket and ice crystals begin to form at approximately twenty-thousand feet. A jet flies through the cloud and immediately a contrail developes behind the jet as it passes through and it might appear to an insane person that a device has been switched on and the jet is spraying, but all th jet is doing is making a contrail and the contrail stops as the jet leaves the clouded area. It was just icecrystals that formed behind the jet and they simply merged with the cloud and the cloud dissipated a few hours later as the low pressure area dissipated and I stopped operating my draw bucket. These phenomena are only seen at high altitudes where contrails form. Spraying is best done at low altitudes where it can get to the ground. You can't run such an implausible conspiracy as dropping chemtrails. It pays to look into more plausible possibilities.Capricornus ripens so that it may be torn to pieces under Scorpio's hand. Never ripen on anyone's terms but your own - think hard for long.
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-07-2002 10:25 PM
As an avid sky watcher all of my life, prior to 2000 in the Spokane, Washington area, I did not observe chemtrail spraying with the resulting numerous and varying cloud formations.Also, I have often observed several jet aircraft flying about with only their normal short comet-like contrails, along with other jets in what looks like from the ground very close air space, spewing out miles and miles of trails. One time I observed two jets which headed directly toward one another create a very interesting narrow X pattern in the sky. Most chemtrail observers are very familiar with those giant X marks, and less familiar tic-tac-toe marks.
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Sace
New Member
15 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 10-08-2002 03:47 PM
Exactly, Khephra Sol! Cloud formations are just so advanced these days, with all this deadly orgone energy accumalated in our atmosphere. Just today I have witnessed several cloud formations with a geometric stature. I have noticed these various geometrical shapes in our ever exponential sky- Vertex
Equilateral triangle
Isosceles triangle
Acute triangle
Obtuse triangle
Quadrilateral
Square
Parallelogram
Rhombus
Heptagon
Octagon
Nonagon
Decagon
Circle
You people need to open your eyes. Open up to the beauty, and live in its wake.
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Moose
Senior Member
Fargo, ND
24 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 10-08-2002 05:30 PM
Hey, Khephra...you've got more than ice crystals in your bucket...glad I'm wearing my hipboots. Tell me: Are you on salary, or do you punch a clock?
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-08-2002 06:37 PM
By "geometric," I mean organic-geometric as in organized into rhythmic patterns. These patterns can be feathery or wave-like and indicate that the sky lives orgonotically. The city environment I live in is charged orgonotically and is oranur reactive most of the time, though thankfully is rarely dorish. The oranur reaction has a disorganizing influence on cloud formations and the geometry of living cloud formations is more rare here than out in the country. Everything I describe in cloud formations is in the standard classical literature on the subject of possible cloud formations, so cloud formations are no more complex today than before. Jets making contrails that cross is nothing to get paranoid about. There are no chemtrails and there is no evidence that says there are any either. A few "witnesses" on the net means nothing. Talk to some airport mechanics and see if they have seen anything like spraying equipment on planes and show me pictures of the equipment (not this Jeff Rense nonsense that appears from time to time).You have been ripened by killers little lambs of the deep winter - beware.
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 10-08-2002 07:12 PM
Hey...KI am an airport mechanic and x-military and I may not have seen any devices on any aircraft I have worked on, however...could it be that there are aircraft...somewhere..on secure military bases (heavily guarded) that have the POSSIBILITY of being spray planes? Have a little tolerance please. If chemtrailers end up being proven wrong...at least they showed some concern. What if they are right? It wouldn't be the first time our lovely military has experimented on its own citizens or tried to control nature. Some people say ORGONE science is a lot of baloney, but i still think it should be heard.
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Sace
New Member
15 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 10-08-2002 07:18 PM
Indeed. Just because deadly orgone in correlation with aircraft contrails can create geometric patterns with airborne water particles in the atmosphere...does not mean it is a cause for concern. Just think of it as a perennial.You are being fattened by the devious jackals hiding amongst the winter moonlight - be cautioned.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-10-2002 08:17 PM
Deadly orgone does not create patterns in the sky; it is pulsating orgone that does, so a wavy sky indicates that the area if a bit more fresh than usual or maybe a bit oranur reactive. DOR is deathly still stuff that destroys. Water condenses around dust particles in cloud formations and can collect around dorish dust (making dorish clouds), but deadly orgone sinks low to the ground a flows like and oil slick into low-lying areas where it collects when not carried by dust, and this forces the orgone up high where clouds form under the prescribed meteorological conditions; rain and lightning reduce the deadly orgone on the ground and it builds back up again. This is a natural cycle which is analogous to the ripening of fruit on a vine so that it may be harvested in a timely, cyclic manner. Deadly orgone has a place in nature as long as it doesn't run amok. If you are going to talk orgone biophysics, why not understand at least a little orgone biophysics. The people who market these chembusters play the same game; they use words like orgone and dor, and they invoke Wilhelm Reich's name regularly while at the same time disinforming people on the subject of orgone biophysics (they lie though they know). It is clear to me that this "Network X" cultural phenomena is associated with hostility towards genuine truth seeking. If you studied orgone biophysics in detail, you might see how these chembusters were most probably purposefully designed to charge urban and desert areas with oranur and cause desert spreading. These devices charge an area when deployed in number without any single device giving off enouph charge to seem much of a threat. They are deployed in a fashion that maximizes charge without having any dor drawing effect (verticle deployment and no water grounding). They do not "generate orgone" because orgone is not generated; they make oranur conditions likely, especially if the area is already heavily charged. They are more likely to be a program directed against people than are contrails, and too many of you chemtrail buffs buy right into it without even attemting to think (if you were merely mistaken, I would be much nicer). The generations of people raised on tv and its X-Files genre mess are lazy-minded, reactionaries who will become a reactionary, socialist plague if they don't learn to think clearly, and that requires practice.
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Sace
New Member
15 posts, Aug 2002
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posted 10-13-2002 12:21 AM
What exactly are the symptoms of deadly orgone? I sure don't want to be exposed to such a deadly entity...I mean damn, It obscures the clouds! The possibilities are endless. I suggest you use your clearly superior intellect and address this problem to the authorities before it gets out of control. THIS IS EVEN WORSE THEN CHEMTRAILS!
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 10-13-2002 01:09 AM
You can find it ALL here at......
http://www.orgonelab.org Right K ? Sheesh...talk about the "believe me...or else" mentality. Hey Sace...you forgot the Dodecahedron and the Hypotenuse triangle....
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Mech on 10-13-2002]
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 10-13-2002 12:21 PM
ALIVE SKY? 
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 10-13-2002 03:44 PM
I sure would like to hear some explanations about this photo. Guess it would be safe to say that each of these streaks did NOT end up at an air port, in case some think it's natural air traffic. What say you debunkers ??? What is the solid wavy area, pulsating orgone ?
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 10-13-2002 10:23 PM
Aw man...Tripod sux!! What happened to the photo? I guess they don't allow linking.
Mech
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