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Khephra Sol
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posted 10-05-2002 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Khephra Sol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On Atmospheric Disturbances, "Chemtrails" and the
"Croft Chembuster": Critical Discussions

Several Items Reproduced Below (more may be added periodically):

1. Open Letter Critical of "Chemtrail" claims, September 2002

2. Western Drought and Fires: Bioenergetic Factors, August 2002

3. A REAL Jet Contrail (not "chemtrail") Problem, August 2002

4. Open Letter Critical of the "Croft Chembuster", March 2002

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1. Open Letter Critical of "Chemtrail" claims, September 2002

Dear -----

Thanks very much for the video on chemtrails. I must confess to being quite skeptical of most of the claims from the chemtrail advocates, and the video you send did nothing to change my view on the matter.

If you consider the wide variety of air pollutants which we are exposed to -- automobile, bus, truck and industrial pollutants, real toxic chemicals in ordinary jet exhaust (they burn kerosene, which leaves a dirty exhaust plume), some cloudseeding chemicals, airborne dusts from desert regions and soots from agricultural burning, along with bioenergetic disturbances which affect cloud growth patterns, as from nuclear power plants and underground nuclear explosions -- it is no surprise that some people are complaining about respiratory problems and dirty air. But all of this has been widely discussed previously, going back many decades, and is nothing new (except that maybe some people are observing it all for the first time!). To claim that ordinary jet contrails are suddenly "toxic chemtrails", and to talk only about the claimed "chemtrails" as the source of all health problems, without reference to all these other well-known and proven sources of air pollution and atmospheric disturbance, strikes me as both evasive and hysterical.

As you may know, I am a long-time observer of clouds and the atmosphere from the viewpoint of Reich's findings. When I was studying classical meteorology in the university back in the 1970s, there was open discussion about the possibility of jet contrails, because of their tendency to spread across the sky under certain meteorological conditions, creating cooler conditions at the ground surface and thereby affecting some kind of long-term climatic cooling (more on this below). Jet contrails, it is well known, can either dissipate rapidly, persist in a narrow band, or persist and spread widely -- it all depends upon the prevailing meteorology, and factually they are composed of ice-crystals just as are cirrus clouds at similar altitudes. The jet engine exhaust has a highly turbulent effect, with the air going from very hot compressed air (in the jet engine) to very expanded and cold air at the rear of the exhaust, allowing ice crystals to form in a rapid manner. The spiral-form movement of air off the wake of wing-tips or rudders creates a similar contrail -- if you have flown in jets, as I have considerably, you'd see these effects from both jet engines and wing tips. To claim the clouds making up contrails are suddenly toxic, beyond ordinary air pollutants, is simply paranoic.

Also, in years past, there has been plenty of discussion about the effects of air pollution from jet exhaust in urban regions close to airports, and also of the exhaust from the SST, whcih flies at higher altitudes than most jets, affecting the ozone layer. All of these issues have open discussion within the scientific literature going back many decades. But none of this is mentioned by the "chemtrail" advocates, who seem to have a theological need to fabricate some government conspiracy, that ordinary jet contrails are something far more sinister and threatening. In the worst cases, advocates of chemtrail theory are deeply theological in their belief-system. Some have adopted the views of the old Nazi Guy Burgess, who founded the Saint Germaine cult in the 1940s (the "I Am" movement), and claim evil demons in other dimensions have taken over US government officials, making them deliberately spray toxic chemicals added to ordinary jet fuel, in an effort to poison the rural countryside. Others are followers of David Icke, whose fairy-tale books claim the world has been taken over by "shape-shifting reptillian aliens" from outer space, and those aliens are trying to poison everyone through secret air-spraying programs. It all requires secret government programs with vast armies of demon-possessed or alien-substituted government officials and avaiation pilots, ground-crews and petroleum workers who are all in on the big secret, and conspiring to poison their own families and countrymen. (Not surprisingly, some of the same people who have written books about "chemtrails" and demonic-aliens-in-government also claim the CIA or Mossad, or anyone except the Islamic fanatics of Al-Qaeda, were responsible for the terror attacks of 9-11.)

There are also some references to weather-modification experiments, or climate-modification, and I would imagine that in a few places, people have seen cloudseeding aircraft, which do put out a stream of toxic materials -- as do ground-based silver iodide generators. But these are not ubiquitous around the country, and are small aircraft, not the size of commercial airliners. They also fly at lower altitudes close to the base of clouds, and not at typical jet cruising altitudes.

Ordinary jet air pollution can be considerable, so I don't wish to dismiss that aspect, but this has been known about since the first days of the airplane, and is nothing conspiratorial or deliberate. A jet will burn a considerable percentage of its fuel load just taking off and climbing to its cruising altitude, so there is much to be concerned about in the regions close to big airports. But that is not what the chemtrail advocates are claiming. What evidence is there for marked or unmarked jets making deliberate spraying of toxic materials beyond ordinary air pollution? Dig into the claimed evidence, and you'll find nothing except ordinary things being misrepresented as something dramatic and sinister, much like the tale of chicken-little (hit on the head by a bit of falling wood from a tree, chicken-little ran around hysterically claiming the sky was falling, and got the whole chicken-coop into a panic). Reich's observations are also being interjected and misrepresented into this mix by some persons, namely his findings on deadly orgone - dor. But Reich's more central observations from the 1950s that ordinary jet contrails were a sign of a good cloud-forming atmosphere, a healthy condition, are totally ignored by those same persons who abuse his name. In the video you sent, notice that the days with good jet contrails are characterized by clear atmospheric conditions at the lower surface. Good days, not the ones where the lower atmosphere is literally choked up with hazy smog, pollutants and such. I've lived in the SF Bay area many years, and so have some feeling about this. And the idea of criss-crossing jet contrails is nothing dramatic or unusual -- it is expected in urban regions close to international airports, where there is a lot of jet traffic coming and going, heading off this way and that.

None of the chemtrail advocates I know of have much interest in these more ordinary explanations, which do not require a vast government conspiracy, or evil demons or shape-shifting aliens, and possibly the reasons spring from that alone -- a theological belief that only they, with inside knowledge of this conspiracy, are the only truly caring and concerned people, while everyone else is either oblivious to the problem, or a wicked part of the conspiracy themself. Air pollution, cloudseeding experiments, and atmospheric haze and contaminants are a big problem, and they should demand people's attention -- but this "chemtrail" business is a big evasion, and will only direct people's attention away from the real sources, and guide them towards imaginary problems, and therefore away from the real and effective solutions.

Having said all the above, I am quite willing to completely reverse my position if some really solid and incontrovertable evidence is forthcoming. The few anecedotal reports of unidentified materials falling from the sky are insufficient, as are claims of microorganisms, heavy metals or metallic particles contained in some atmospheric dusts. These reports are so isolated, or often made without clear scientific protocols, or being made anonymously, such that they raise more questions than they answer, and in any case are not so highly unusual to anyone who has, as I have, studied ordinary airborne dusts, air-pollution chemistry and the microbiology of airborne materials. It could be that some people have observed some of the more outrageous cloudseeding experiments of genuinely mad scientists like Edward Teller, who proposed atmospheric spraying of metal dusts to lower solar radiation and oppose global warming, but so far there is nothing solid to validate this idea -- to my knowledge, nobody has demonstrated that such experiments are really going on today, which would be fairly easy to determine by checking with the NOAA offices who monitor weather modification experiments across the USA. This idea remains totally hypothetical. Maybe some experiments being done at a few isolated military bases could escape public disclosure, but not across the nation involving a high percentage of commercial jet aircraft -- unless, of course, one wants to invoke the dramatic unproven hypothesis of evil demons or shape-shifting aliens having taken over the industry and government. Rational logic, and good natural scientific method, demands that we cannot claim to solve one set of unknowns by invoking another equally or even more far-fetched and unproven hypothesis.

Sorry to be so negative about this, but there is even more which I've addressed elsewhere: (see below)

Best wishes,
James DeMeo

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2. Western Drought and Fires: Bioenergetic Factors, August 2002

Some persons have asked me what might be the background factors underlying the current drought which has affected the Western states, and other parts of the USA, and also the large wildfires. As one of the senior members of the USA Core Network, with over 30 years of research experience in orgone biophysics, and 25 years of field work with the Reich cloudbuster, these questions have been foremost in my mind, and for our work and activities here at the Greensprings Center.

The science of climatology and meteorology has been adept at making accurate measurements of weather patterns, but has failed in understanding their deeper causes. It is exactly here where the science of orgonomy, and the discoveries of Reich, allow some new observations and reasonable speculations as to causation. And from this newer understanding of causation come new approaches for change.

1. Some familiarity with my book "Saharasia" is necessary, at minimum the chapter on "The Saharasian Desert Belt" which gives a classical description of the world's largest continuous dry region, given the name Saharasia by myself. The Saharasian atmopshere also plays a fundamental role in Earth's climate and weather, as documented in my "Desert-Drought Map", published in our journal, Pulse of the Planet #2, p.82. Further discussion on the role of Saharasian dor and dor-haze in blocking precipitation within Saharasia, and as exported to other world regions to cause drought globally, as well as its relationship to the El Nino phenomenon, is discussed in my article on "Green Sea Eritrea: Cloudbusting Project" as recently printed in Pulse of the Planet #5. With this background information, which has also been presented to several international scholarly conferences on global weather and climate, it is known that the West Coast of the USA has for many years been under the influence of Saharasian dorish air masses, which arrive on the West Coast via two pathways: Saharasian dor firstly has a low-altitude discharge pathway out the Red Sea and Persian Gulf, moving eastward across the Indian and Pacific Oceans, to arrive along the West Coast of North America to form a dry "marine layer" (eg., typical "dry fog") which builds the dry coastal zone of California and Baha. A second pathway for Saharasian dor is high-altitude, originating within the central deserts of China where large dust storms scour the landscape and discharge dor-haze, and dust, into high altitudes where it is carried across the Northern Pacific by prevailing westerly winds. This material descends to lower altitudes in the mid-Pacific, becomes relatively enriched with humidity, and arrives in the Pacific Northwest as a stagnant stratus layer which washes along the coastal regions sometimes yielding good rains (when dor is sequestered into rains) or stagnant drizzles, or if sufficient in quantity, drought. There also is a pathway from West Africa across the Atlantic to Florida and the Gulf of Mexico region, which can affect Texas and the full SE region (as well as parts of South America). When Saharasia is in a state of expansion, as during the present time, more dor-haze and dor-dusts are discharged at its borders, and is then distributed globally, eventually to arrive in the Western USA where it arrives in greater quantities than is otherwise observed. This is a major factor underlying USA droughts. We therefore observe how events in Africa and Central Asia affect our weather in a rather direct manner, though with a delay of several weeks or months from the time of the major dor-haze discharges to their arrival across the oceans. http://www.orgonelab.org/saharasia.htm http://www.orgonelab.org/xpulse.htm http://www.orgonelab.org/Pulse5.htm

2. It has recently been observed that USA weather patterns are put into a state of high energetic expansion following subcritical nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site. Two such tests have occurred in the USA this year, one on February 14 -- which put an end to exceptionally good wintertime snowfalls across the West -- and another on June 7th, which basically dried up the Western states, and initiated the current period of dry lightning storms and wildfires. Previously, we had known that underground nuclear testing was correlated with outbreaks of severe heat waves, high pressure conditions, droughts and massive dry wind storms in the Western States, and documentation on similar heat wave and drought effects following nulcear testing in India and Pakistan has also been documented. Our Pulse of the Planet journal has carried various articles on this subject over the years, including Kato's work on variations in the Earth Chandler wobble and mesospheric temperatures following underground nuclear testing, and Whitefords work on changes in global earthquake patterns following testing. However, until most recently, it had not been clear that subcritical nuclear testing was capable of producing similar effects. Now, it appears this is so, and that the atmosphere is over-excited into oranur conditions by sub-critical nuclear tests, in a manner similar to undergound nuclear bomb testing. http://www.orgonelab.org/oranur.htm http://www.orgonelab.org/xpulse.htm

TIMELINE FOR US SUBCRITICAL NUCLEAR TESTS
9/24/96 President Clinton signs Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, banning underground nuclear tests.
10/8/96 DOE announces it will conduct subcritical tests at Nevada Test Site
4/4/97 Secretary of Energy Pe–a announces US plans to conduct subcritical tests
7/2/97 Rebound - LANL (Los Alamos National Laboratory)
9/18/97 Holog - LLNL (Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory)
3/25/98 Stagecoach - LANL
9/26/98 Bagpipe - LLNL
12/11/98 Cimarron - LANL
2/9/99 Clarinet - LLNL
9/30/99 Oboe 1 - LLNL
11/9/99 Oboe 2 - LLNL
2/3/00 Oboe 3 - LLNL
3/22/00 Thoroughbred - LANL
4/6/00 Oboe 4 - LLNL
8/18/00 Oboe 5 - LLNL
12/14/00 Oboe 6 - LLNL
9/26/01 Oboe 8 - LLNL
12/13/01 Oboe 7 - LLNL (final test in Oboe series)
2/14/02 Vito - LANL and UK (under the terms of the 1958 Mutual Defense Agreement)
6/7/02 Oboe 9 - LLNL


3. For those who are unaware, there is a growing network of people who are using cloudbuster-type devices on a continuous basis, setting them up and operating them around-the-clock, day after day, and in the process over-exciting the atmosphere and creating oranur-like effects which yield widespread cloud-dissipating tendencies. These individuals have very little knowledge of Reich's work, but toss around his name as if they were intimate experts in the field, with the blind leading the blind. Their goal with this madness is to "dissipate chemtrails", and "chemtrails" are vaguely defined as being roughly equal to any jet contrail. In the process of attempting to dissipate jet contrails, other clouds are affected. The network of "chembusters" as they are called, has several hundred members, with an internet presence, and have caught the attention of somewhat alarmist conspiracy-theorists with large web sites and radio talk shows, getting a kind of publicity never afforded to scientists following and investigating Reich's work more directly. Many of them believe toxic chemtrails are being deliberately sprayed into the Earth's atmosphere by humans who have been influenced by either the United Nations, or by evil demons or aliens from outer space, in a macabre plot to poison people across the countryside. Reich's name is being injected into this confused mish-mash. Efforts to warn this group of the dangers of untrained and prolonged use of cloudbusters -- that they are actually increasing weather chaos and enhancing drought tendencies in the atmosphere -- have led to only dismissive contempt-reactions, and slander being directed at those who gave the warning. http://www.orgonelab.org/chembusters.htm http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

4. Finally, of course, our own home-grown nuclear power facilities across the USA continue to exert their oranur effects, making problems in their local areas.

Of the above, Saharasian dor transport is the more powerful influence, in my opinion, with the others taking a back seat. Without the first, the others would have only local and temporary effects.

Some work with the authentic Reich cloudbuster has been periodically undertaken by the Core Network, with limited success given the limited financial resources available -- efforts continue as this is being written, with a major new storm off the Pacific Coast which hopefully will bring some relief. Earlier efforts were also made to contact the governors of both Colorado and Arizona during their period of massive forest fires, with copies of published articles and professional cover letters being delivered to their aids, who had previously been contacted by various well-connected professionals with sympathetic views about Reich. The hope was, that members of the Core Network could apply their considerable skills in the cloudbusting methods to assist in fire-fighting efforts, and thereby obtain some minimal state-support and logistical assistance for the efforts. However, no response was forthcoming in either case -- only the deadly silent treatment which orgonomy has been subject to now for over 50 years. We therefore are left with undertaking the necessary work by ourselves, with only our own resources. Individuals who have financial resources to assist the considerable needs of this work are encouraged to make a donation to OBRL. http://www.orgonelab.org/AIBC.htm http://www.cloudbusting.org

James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director of OBRL

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3. A REAL Jet Contrail (not "chemtrail") Problem, August 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/07/contrails.climate/index.html

9/11 study: Air traffic affects climate

August 7, 2002 Posted: 5:00 PM EDT (2100 GMT)

By Richard Stenger

(CNN) -- The thin wisps of condensation that trail jet airliners have a significant influence on the climate, according to scientists who studied U.S. skies during a rare interruption in national air traffic after the September 11 terrorist attacks.

During the three-day commercial flight hiatus, when the artificial clouds known as contrails all but disappeared, the variations in high and low temperatures increased by 1.1 degrees Celsius (2 degrees Fahrenheit) each day, said meteorological researchers.

While the temperature range is significant, whether the jet clouds have a net effect on global warming remains unknown.

"I think what we've shown are that contrails are capable of affecting temperatures," said lead scientist David Travis of the University of Wisconsin, Whitewater. "Which direction, in terms of net heating or cooling, is still up in the air."

Contrails Explainer:
* Long white wisps of artificial clouds high in the atmosphere, contrails are the condensation trails left behind by jet airplanes.
* Similar to human exhalation making a fog in chilly weather, contrails form when warm humid engine exhaust meets extremely cool air in the atmosphere.
* Air temperatures where contrails form are generally lower than minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 40 degrees Celsius).
* Like natural cirrus clouds, contrails insulate the planet, blocking out incoming solar energy from above and keeping in heat down below.
* Scientists estimate that contrails cover some 0.1 percent of the Earth's overall surface, with regional concentrations as high as 20 percent.


In many ways, contrails behave in the same manner as cirrus clouds, thin high-altitude floaters that block out solar energy from above and trap in heat below.

As a result, they help reduce the daily range in daytime highs and nighttime lows. Contrails, by providing additional insulation, further reduce the variability.

With air traffic growing and contrails becoming more prevalent, the natural variation will further decline and could disrupt regional ecosystems, some scientists speculate.

Certain trees, crops and insect species depend on specific daily temperature variations for their survival.

In some ways, contrails differ from their natural brethren. Cirrus clouds let less heat out than in overall, producing a net increase in the Earth's temperatures, according to climate scientists. With contrail clouds, they said they are not so sure.

"Contrails are denser and block sunlight much more than natural cirrus clouds," said Travis, who with colleagues reported the findings this week in the journal Nature.

"And contrails are much more prevalent when the sun is out," he said. "When this is factored in, there is a possibility that they offset global warming, and this is what we are trying to determine now."

The researchers plan more studies to tackle that question, but they said they expect to rely on circumstantial evidence only.

"We can only hope that the September 11 tragedy never happens again," Travis said.

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4. Open Letter Critical of the "Croft Chembuster", March 2002

The following letter has been sent to a number of persons who inquired at OBRL about the Croft "chembuster". It was also sent to Mr. Croft, whose only reply was to say that his device was "becoming popular", without expression of interest in the issues being raised.

Dear -----

I get quite a few requests for my opinion about the Croft chembusters, which I must unfortunately tell you are not a good idea, unless you want to take the risk of drying out your atmosphere, and disturbing the natural atmospheric pulsation. I've been meaning to make another try to get that group to stop with promoting and selling this technology as if it were pancakes or dish-soap, so my reply to you will be a bit longer than necessary, with copies going to them as well.

The principle upon which the Croft chembuster functions is similar to what Reich discovered years ago, with his "ordinary" cloudbuster -- the principle of atmospheric expansion. In spite of claims otherwise, his device is not so different from a dozen or so similar things which have come and gone over the years. Since I've been engaged in this work using the original "old fashioned" approach of Reich for more than 25 years, I hope you'll appreciate that there have been a lot of things come and go on this scene. However, Mr. Croft is the first to advocate using these devices on a full-time basis, which is where the problem is created. In the case of the chembuster, being set up and put into operation for months on end, perhaps permanently, this can potentially create an extreme situation of atmospheric over-expansion, which is associated with drought and desert-winds. I had an email exchange with Mr. Croft in September of last year, when massive forest-fires were widespread across the droughty West, but he claimed his devices "self-regulated" (a term developed by Reich but wrongly applied in this case) and that good rains were falling in his area, but he provided no evidence to support this claim. In opposition, I pointed to the fact that the entire NW part of the USA, from Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana, began to dry out around the same time that the Croft network of chembusters began to be set up through that region last year, and you can confirm it by reviewing the drought maps in archive available from NOAA. http://enso.unl.edu/monitor/archive.html Compare any of the images from January 2001 to later in that same year. A small drought area centered in western Montana and northern Idaho expanded to eventually encompass the entire Pacific Northwest. Coincidence?

Much of the west got a lot of rain and snow when the CORE Network, of which I am a senior working member, initiated cloudbuster operations in mid- November of last year using the "old fashioned" method of Reich. We received 72" of snow within three weeks afterward, and much of the coastal Western states have dramatically improved. I'm only sorry that we could not organize things for a quicker response. Much drought remains, however. The original Reich operational methodology is typically short-term, lasting only hours or a few days maximum, and the effects last for weeks or longer, spreading widely to cover very large regions. But everyone in our network noticed the tendency for the atmosphere to quickly revert back to dry conditions -- this might be related to the Asian dust storm situation (I assume you know about that), or it could be the consequence of all the Croft "chembusters", setting up a widespread cloud-dissipating influence.

Another clear example came in Namibia, where Mr. Croft lectured in January of this year, and got six of his devices set up at that time. I got emails from friends in Namibia whom I had trained in the original Reich methods in 1991-92, when I was asked to end a major 3-year drought which affected Southern Africa. My friends became quite alarmed because after the chembusters were set up, it had not rained for two months, and this was during their rainy season. (Desert lands are much more sensitive to such influences than moister regions.) I suggested they immediately take down the Croft devices, and four of them did so (I am informed). Rains resumed almost immediately afterward, in one case, within hours after the apparatus was taken down. Mr. Croft thereafter misrepresented this episode to his internet group, as my having somehow meddled in his affairs, but the fact is, his ignorance in misapplying Reich's discovery was a major meddling with Mother Nature, and nearly led to another drought catastrophe in Namibia. Rather than condemning me, he should have started asking questions about why the rains dried up when his devices were put into operation. And at least to have made contact with the other trained cloudbuster operators in Namibia to find out what they were doing.

I cannot be fully certain his network of chembuster devices was the cause in these cases -- there is a large desert-spreading out of Saharasia now for 6000 years, and the atmosphere is negatively affected from a host of human sources -- but chembuster drying is a possibility, and I continue to point this out in hopes that persons in his group will be on the watch for such deleterious influences. So far, I've got no response from Mr. Croft except a dismissal of my concerns, and the claim that I am insufficiently open-minded to his "innovation". Subsequent postings to his e-group misrepresented my work, and the Namibia affair, along with ridicule for my daring to make a criticism. He has also censored people from his e-group list who have dared to raise challenging considerations, or to discuss Reich's original findings in a more straightforward manner, which in my view speaks volumes.

If it were only farmers using these devices, I'd have less concern, as farmers at least are outside watching the sky and weather patterns on the satellite images, watching the storms and jet streams, and with exception of lettuce irrigators really want to have good rains. They also tend to have their feet on the ground. So if they know these devices risk drying things out, and they saw the atmosphere drying out, they would take them down pronto, and study the matter in more depth, as their financial existence would be at risk. Unfortunately, many of the people who have erected the cloudbuster/chembusters are not farmers or foresters, or naturalists, but do so for reasons that are not entirely clear, having to do with fears about aliens or demons and being poisoned by the government. In example, we got a call here most recently from a terribly anxious woman who lived in a trailer, in economic distress, asking about putting up a cloudbuster in her backyard, as she was frightened of aliens and had respiratory problems. Other persons who have called here turned absolutely rabid when I advised caution, suggesting aggressive power-destructive motivations. In our CORE Network, we screen such people out, and everyone gets a rigorous training and apprenticeship. In their organization, you simply plunk down a few hundred bucks, and you are an instant weather-modification expert. It is all a rather confused situation, but in any case, I see it as yet another example of crazy human beings doing their best to make a train-wreck out of natural processes, even while being rather self-righteous about it. That it is done with Reich's name and discoveries being paraded about, makes it all the more unpalatable.

You can read my longer discussions on the matter of building and using cloudbusters (or "chembusters") in the following article:

"So You Want to Build a Cloudbuster" http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

So, my advice is not to build a cloudbuster or chembuster, and to satisfy your curiosity by starting to read Reich's original works, or the many books and journals by those who have stayed close to his original discoveries, which are natural-scientific and lack the intensive mysticism and over-the-top elements inherent in the chembuster theory.

Regards,
James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, Orgone Biophysical Research Lab
PO Box 1148
Ashland, Oregon 97520
541-552-0118 tel/fax
demeo@mind.net http://www.orgonelab.org

This page, and all contents, Copyright (C) 2002
by the Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory, Inc.

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It is my personal opinion that the chembusters that are being deployed in number in areas already susceptible to the prevalence of oranur conditions are purposefully harmful influences.

It has been my observation as a layman who studies orgone biophysics as an alchemical hobby that urban areas are areas where the deployment of cloudbuster type equipment can easily and very quickly become harmful by virtue of the fact that urban areas charge up orgonotically very quickly with relatively even weak devices in deployment, and it immediately occured to me at the same time that it is precisely urban areas where many of these chembusters are being deployed in numbers (arid regions being another). These devices are likely to have an accumulative negative effect on the weather in the region without giving any warning by virtue of the fact that each device gives off a relatively small charging influence. This would be why the inventors of this device insist that the devices remain in deployment continually and in as great a number as possible. The accumulative effect would be to overcharge the region around where the devices are deployed and to cause high pressure weather (the clear days you chemtrail people seem to favor as normal) and to push humidity out of the region (clear days again). Precipitation falls off despite some intense thunder storm activity every now and then which makes the poeple who deploy the devices think everything is ok; they fail to look into the emerging drought issue and notice that seasonal rainfall is half of what it should be. Oranur reaction may attract intense weather initially, but the oranur reaction eventually repells weather formation unless it is very intense weather formation. The devices do not have any value because they cannot be used to draw dor and destroy it by grounding it into water, so they cannot be used to reestablish natural weather cycles in the region as cloudbusters can in skilled hands; both in their drawing and more intense charging capability. Dor is a phenomema that must have its proper place in nature or else deserts will spread, so it must be checked regularly by either mother nature or, in emergencies, by human intervention. If you have ever operated even a small cloudbusting capable device, it might amaze you how powerful an influence they can be. A three ply orgone accumulating device is strong enough to rattle the nerves of someone standing right next to it while it is in operation and that relatively small device can charge an urban area right up in no time even while deployed for maximum drawing influence relative to charging influence (you can see it on satellite images as a hole in the cloud cover, and this is motivation to never operate a cloudbusting device in the future). So, it does not surprize me that these chembuster devices can do some damage when left deployed continually and in numbers in the targeted areas. They are being sold and promoted by people who merely pose as orgone biophysics authorities who claim that only Wilhelm Reich has conducted research into this class of devices, and the information they distribute relating to orgone biophysics is in my opinion purposeful disinformation distributd by people who know more than they claim to know.

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I've noticed also that cloud busting devices that are used repeatedly in the same location build up a momentum and become extremely strong influences that can push moisture out of entire regions. The methods used by quilified cloud busters involve the ability to move from location to location and their methods seem to work best and actually bring moisture into an area. Leaving these chembusters in one place over time is what allows them to have such a negative influence on the weather.

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Again, again and AGAIN, the debunksters NEVER address the FACT that the military has already ADMITTED to spraying for weather modification and other reasons.

As for 'chembusters' I'm skeptical that they have any benefit or effect PERIOD. It is certainly not THEY that are clearing the rain. The polymer fiber particulate from the CHEMTRAIL planes mixes with the cloud cover and produces mere misty drizzles if ANY rain at all. Any idiot with more than 2 functioning neurons bouncing around their skull can confirm this by watching the repeated PATTERN of heavy spraying ahead of and INTO oncoming rain fronts. Couple this with actions of the FEDs like at Klammath Falls against the farmers. They were then denied the use of their own irrigation system THEY PAID FOR under the bogus reason of protecting a junk scavenger sucker fish that was destroyed by the FEDs in years before. This is a planned attack on the people of Amerika and other countries by the dirtbag globalists.

You debunksters had best consider that God doesn't care too much for LIARS and you're making an eternal bed you'll get to lie in FOREVER! He's not going to allow this crap to happen again!

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posted 10-22-2002 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SPRAYERMEYER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted 10-25-2002 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Khephra Sol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You chemtrail people always avoid proving a point. So what if jet contrails often appear ahead of storm fronts. If clouds can form at high altitude in an area, jet contrails will appear. I have looked at jet contrails quite a bit over the last half a decade and they never behave like anything but contrails which behave in a meteorological fashion. If the government is attacking people, it is more likely to be in a fashion that is either legal (because of mob rule) or in the form of small operations that make the headlines and cause much trauma (look for alchemical symbolism as a hint). You can't get away with mixing poisons in the jet fuel without people getting wise to it on a large scale. I would be hearing things from people in the aviation industry or chemical industry and they would make sense. You people have yet to prove a point. You have also failed to prove that jets fly back and forth to spray anything (I have never seen that happen). Jeff Rense is just not a legitimate source of information. He and his ilk will "commit suicide" one day (like David Icke did with his reptilian agenda nonsense) and all followers will "gulp down the Cool Aid with their leaders." The Vatican has you under a spell in my opinion. Show me evidence or at least something plausible that can be studied for probability.

As far as chembusters are concerned; I haven't experimented with them but people who I consider to be reliable sources of information seem to feel that they are drying up entire regions because of the manner in which they are deployed and my own experiments with weak cloudbuster type devices confirm that this form of technology is very powerful and should only be used by qualified people. My device isn't even as strong as a medical DOR buster, but it will cause changes in the atmosphere depending on when it is used. I have over used it so, if I were to redeploy it, the barometric pressure in the area would increase and the DEW point would decrease immediately. High altitude cloud formations would appear, some of them looking like aurora phenomena (over charge). The device worked fine for a few months, but eventually the device was over used and a dry spell ensued after a "London Fog" descended upon the semi-arid region in which I live. I have not used the device in over a week, and the fog returned as though the area were going back through the progression it went through when I used the device. This technology is no joke and shouldn't be played with. I thought a weak orgone accumulating device would simply act like a strong draw bucket and clean up the DOR signiture for the city in which I live, but I failed to account for the fact that these devices build up momentum and can charge up an area causing mixed up weather. The weather seems to be righting itself now though, and I am hoping rain will fall soon in my neck of the woods. Orgone Biophysics can be confirmed and studied by anyone, just be careful not to mess with the weather or someone else's health.

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