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msswv123
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Gastonia,NC USA
123 posts, Jan 2001

posted 10-09-2002 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msswv123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair use cited:

So much for not keeping secrets huh??

Oct 9, 2002

U.S. Conducted Open-Air Biological, Chemical Weapons Tests, Records Show
By Matt Kelley
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States held open-air biological and chemical weapons tests in at least four states - Alaska, Hawaii, Maryland and Florida - during the 1960s in an effort to develop defenses against such weapons, according to Pentagon documents.
A series of tests in Alaska from 1965-67 used artillery shells and bombs filled with the nerve agents sarin and VX, the records show.

The Defense Department planned to release summaries of 28 chemical and biological weapons tests at a House Veterans Affairs Committee hearing Wednesday. The Associated Press obtained the summaries Tuesday.

The documents did not say whether any civilians had been exposed to the poisons. Military personnel exposed to weapons agents would have worn protective gear, the Pentagon says.

The Pentagon previously acknowledged that it had conducted biological and chemical tests - including a few on U.S. soil - but the latest documents give the most detailed picture so far of the testing program inside the United States.

The tests were part of Project 112, a military program in the 1960s and 1970s to test chemical and biological weapons and defenses against them. Parts of the testing program done on Navy ships were called Project SHAD, or Shipboard Hazard and Defense.

The tests were directed from the Deseret Test Center, part of a biological and chemical weapons complex in the Utah desert.

Some of those involved in the tests say they now suffer health problems linked to their exposure to dangerous chemicals and germs. They are pressing the Veterans Affairs Department to compensate them and the Defense Department to release more information about the tests.

In response to pressure from veterans and Congress, the Pentagon began releasing details of the tests last year. Earlier this year, the Defense Department acknowledged for the first time that some of the 1960s tests used real chemical and biological weapons, not just benign stand-ins.

"The Cold War era experiments of Project SHAD, which we are now learning used live toxins and chemical poisons on American servicemen on American soil, must be aggressively investigated in as open and transparent a manner as possible," said the House Veterans Affairs Committee chairman, Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J. "Our focus must be on quickly identifying those veterans who were involved, assessing whether they suffered any negative health consequences and, if warranted, providing them with adequate health care and compensation for their service."

The Defense Department has identified nearly 3,000 soldiers involved in tests disclosed earlier, but the VA has sent letters to fewer than half of them. VA and Pentagon officials acknowledged at a July hearing that finding the soldiers has been difficult.

The tests described in the latest Pentagon documents include:

- Devil Hole I, designed to test how sarin gas would disperse after being released in artillery shells and rockets in aspen and spruce forests. The tests occurred in the summer of 1965 at the Gerstle River test site near Fort Greeley, Alaska, the documents said. Sarin is a powerful nerve gas that causes a choking, thrashing death. It killed 12 people in a Tokyo subway attack in 1995 and the Bush administration says it is part of Iraq's chemical arsenal.

- Devil Hole II, which tested how the nerve agent VX behaved when dispersed with artillery shells. The test at the Gerstle River site in Alaska also included mannequins in military uniforms and military trucks. VX is one of the deadliest nerve agents known and is persistent in the environment because it is a sticky liquid that evaporates slowly. Iraq has acknowledged making tons of VX.

- Big Tom, a 1965 test that included spraying bacteria over the Hawaiian island of Oahu to simulate a biological attack on an island compound, and to develop tactics for such an attack. The test used Bacillus globigii, a bacterium believed at the time to be harmless. Researchers later discovered the bacteria could cause infections in people with weakened immune systems.

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On the Net:

Descriptions of some of the tests: http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/current-issues/shad/shad-intro.sht ml

AP-ES-10-08-02 2350EDT

This story can be found at: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA1W1KP27D.html

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Sore Throat
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736 posts, Sep 2000

posted 10-09-2002 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing isn't it.

Where all all those debunkers who claimed we were paranoid to think that that our government would ever knowingly, intentionally exposure its own citizens to toxic materials.

Now here's an admission of activities forty years ago.

Do you actually think it all stopped then?

If so, let me sell you a bridge or two.

Ah yes, they called us paranoid.

So just where is the credibility gap?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Sore Throat on 10-09-2002]

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001

posted 10-10-2002 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who want to know the truth of what's going on will always be labeled and demonized as "unpatriotic", "paranoid conspiracy nuts" freaks--you nameit. The reason being in my opinion is most people don't want to lose grip over their tightly controlled lives...which is exactly what would happen if there was a mass uprising against the government due to so much lieing.

Most people are 100% asleep sad to say.Too busy with failed, nowhere go-go lives.

Mech

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit


Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000

posted 10-10-2002 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Companion Piece:

9 October 2002
The Associated Press

Pentagon: Some soldiers in chemical, biological tests not fully informed
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAYO2QQ37D.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon acknowledged Wednesday that some soldiers engaged in chemical and biological weapons testing in the 1960s may not have been fully informed about the secret experiments conducted at sea and in five states from Alaska to Florida. Some tests used the military's deadliest nerve agent, VX.

Thousands of civilians in Hawaii and Alaska also probably were unaware they were sprayed with relatively mild bacteria meant to simulate germ weapons such as anthrax, the Defense Department's top health official said.

Dr. William Winkenwerder, assistant defense secretary for health affairs, said there's no evidence anyone died as a result of the classified tests, which were part of biological and chemical warfare programs the United States abandoned in 1970.

Four people at the military's Deseret Testing Center in Utah were infected during biological weapons work, but all recovered, said Dr. Michael Kilpatrick, another Pentagon health official. Records do not show who the people were or what germs infected them, Kilpatrick said.

At a news conference, the Pentagon released declassified summaries of 28 of the tests, showing for the first time the scope of open-air testing of chemical and biological agents on American soil. About 5,500 service members participated in the tests.

Tests in Alaska exposed soldiers in protective suits to deadly nerve agents, including VX, and experiments in Hawaii used a hallucinogen developed as a chemical weapon, according to Pentagon records.

Winkenwerder said all military personnel in tests of real chemical or biological weapons used protective gear and were vaccinated. But he acknowledged that the protective equipment used 40 years ago was not as effective as the suits used today.

"It's not clear that in every instance, people were fully informed" of the risks, Winkenwerder told a news conference.

At a House Veterans Affairs subcommittee hearing, lawmakers criticized the Pentagon for waiting until last year to begin releasing details of the tests.

"It's pretty deplorable that the DOD held this info up for so long," said Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif. "We need to get out there and get these guys tested, and make sure they know the seriousness of what they were exposed to."..... [more]


Response from one of the people to whom this article was e-mailed tonight:

.....This is insulting in the extreme.....

I couldn't agree more.

....."It's not clear that in every instance, people were fully informed" of the risks, Winkenwerder told a news conference.....

Give us a break.

Unbelievable.

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001

posted 10-10-2002 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
......LOL!!!!

Massive experiment cover-up.

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Dan Rockwell
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Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001

posted 10-10-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting that information.

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