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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-11-2002 10:11 PM
   
not 30 minutes after the insults were asked to stop deborah...you post this yet again........I hereby submit that what the __sleazebag debunkers absolutely unbelievable... ------------------
T/S 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-11-2002 10:32 PM
Oh, please.....
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-11-2002 10:48 PM
how about this deborah "__sleazebag chemmies ?"like that...no ? oh please.... ------------------
T/S
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-11-2002 10:49 PM
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001559.html#6
I'm done here.
Thank God.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-12-2002 06:45 PM
Go ahead and try to cut up my statements and then interpret them wrong so as to avoid the issue. You people would be completely unimportant if not for the fact that a certain percentage of you have decided to use chembusters. If you were merely a bunch of nuts on the internet, I would ingnore you. So what if a jet makes a contrail where there are no clouds and it sticks arround for a while and maybe spreads out into a thin high altitude cloud; the ice crystals make little real difference to mother nature. It just means that there is not enough humidity in the area to make clouds, though the meteorological conditions allow contrails to stick around. Your arguments about contrails and chemtrails are foundationed in ignorance and are fundamentally flawed (not one shred of real evidence). You are using methods of argument that are commonly used by skeptics groups as a means of avoiding central issues. Threads must be "focused" and other's statements must be quoted piecemeal as a means of avoiding issues. You people do not want to find any truth and this is why you are already conservative in your outlook, and conservatism is socialism (it's a characterological affliction). You cling to paranoid delusion as a substitute for finding any real conspiracy; a conspiracy could be right under your nose and you would fail to see it (this site for example). You are going to be reaped because it is the hand of Death that made this pathetic little cultural genre, the same as it did reptilianism. By hand of Death I mean the analogy associated with hidden control that forms a dream that attracts the attention of many little Capricorn analogies who don't realize that it is Death that is tempting them (The Weather Underground was such a program). Death might make a dream image in the form of Timothy Leary or David Icke, or it might invent chembusters in the interest of attacking a science it can't get to in a more direct fashion. Death makes the primordial "grape" image that others will follow and emulate, and the followers and the guru will be reaped together so that a new conservative-socialist era can be nurtured into existance using all of the poor sacrificial goats as compost. Liberal eras are masochistic to the more sadistic conservative times. The sixties failed to produce any lasting freedom because it was merely an arranged Liberal time when conservative mentalities simply dressed up like hippies and went to Woodstock to have sex in public, and the nineties is about to be reaped without producing anything but dumb ideas about chemtrails and reptilians. The people who started this chemtrail nonsense are gurus and you people are mindless little grapes who refuse to realize that grapes are used to make wine.
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 10-12-2002 07:06 PM
LOL!!!!!!Oh my gawd that was funny! Whose side are you on K? Take a look around the rest of this board and you will find "other issues" besides chemtrails. You act like everyone here is missing something important. Like WHAT? Please explain....no one is stopping you, no one is censoring you. People at this site are alert to warning signs....that's a good thing.What is this "great harvest" that you speak of? Please do tell. by the way, I think you are full of baloney when it comes to your critque on the 1960's early 70's radical movements. They scared the daylights out of the establishment and the elite to the point where they spied on and assasinated who they thought was a danger. A lot more people would have been slaughtered wholesale in places like Vietnam if it wasn't for "hippies" and "freaks" who complained about it. Our air and water would not be nearly as clean as it is today if it wasn't for "treehuggers" and "eco-freaks" complaining about it. Who didn't want these thing to happen? Conservatives...(Torries) just like the ones who ruled England as Kings.These elitists were also the same people who were against integration and civil rights for women. I think bashing progressives won't get you far if you wish to change something you don't like. If you have something to say get sassy and say it. Don't just rag on everone else. Mech
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Mech on 10-12-2002]
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-12-2002 10:58 PM
Reply to Kephra Sol:I took the time to reply to your last post sentence-by-sentence, trying to make a conversation out of the process and saying exactly what I think. This is hardly, in my opinion, the same thing as "cutting up your statements", which implies taking them out of context and stripping them of meaning. If you can't see the continuity I was trying to maintain and, frankly, the dignity I tried to confer on the process of dialog with you, I'm sorry. Unfortunately you seem to have a rigidly pre-conceived idea of who I am and what I think without even knowing me. I find it difficult to figure out who you are even talking to in your most recent post. It certainly isn't me. And I truthfully don't care at this point, having had my fill of the gratuitous bullsh-t that has transpired on this thread since Wednesday. ------------------------=> My original purpose in starting this thread remains intact. It is my strong feeling that we are being "mislead" alright - but not necessarily in *exactly* the way it might appear. I think the deception goes much deeper than is perhaps fully realized where the issue-at-hand [*chemtrails*] is concerned. The unflagging efforts of the debunker contingent to obstruct substantive and PRODUCTIVE investigation of this issue remain curiously cohesive after four-plus years, given their repeatedly-stated contempt for the issue - and for those of us who are determined to sort it out and get to the truth of the matter. In this thread, I am purposely separating the issue of CONTRAILS from the issue of CHEMTRAILS in order to examine certain aspects of each issue individually, with the primary focus on CONTRAILS. I happen to think these issues are, in fact, separate but related - and that we are, in fact, being systematically stonewalled where BOTH of these issues are concerned. I hope this clarifies my intent here. We have a damned problem alright - and it's not going to go away or get any better unless we stop doubting our own judgment and start __IGNORING__ certain parties who consistently attempt to derail thread continuity by relentlessly baiting people on the personality level. Solving problems requires focus and discipline - and efficient use of valuable time. I'm interested in solving a problem here and will engage with anyone who is similarly - and genuinely - committed to that process.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-12-2002 11:17 PM
I guess "i'm done" meant for the evening ?deborah your not getting any different response here than you would get from anyone in the media...science community...or otherwise discrimiating individual... I'll say this one more time....when you people start cleaning house of all the liars, profiteers, and nuts, gather together and do some research, by scientific standards, get it reviewed by unbias intelligent peers and publish it...then you'll start getting an honest response from credible orgs.... until then...you are just throwing hissy fits on internet meassage boards...doomed to failure...and if your really interested in helping people...they remain un-helped... burden of proof is on the accuser... btw, write the editor of that W/T nexus article emfmx13 posted....I did...and guess who's side he's on about willy's articles ! with luv ------------------
T/S
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-13-2002 03:41 PM
What I'd like to do in this thread is stimulate exploration of the possiblity that, in addition to the stonewalling so many people have encountered in regard to the issue of chemtrails, concerned individuals are also being deliberately and very subtly deflected from direct, focused inquiry regarding the issue of persistent contrails and their increasingly-documented disruptive effect on regional hydrology and diurnal temperature patterns.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-13-2002 03:51 PM
test
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-15-2002 06:38 AM
Today's forecast for the Boston area:.....A bright and beautiful but cool day is forecast across the area. Mostly sunny and continued unseasonably cool Tuesday. High 51 to 56. Partly cloudy early on Tuesday night, then increasing cloudiness. A risk of showers by daybreak. Low 39 to 46.....
"Increasing cloudiness".....
Yes - and not just any clouds. No - these are the special "pretty clouds" - and I'm watching them right now, drifting in from the WNW.
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eyesopen
This Space For Rent
Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 10-15-2002 07:51 AM
I'm watching the process here now too.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-17-2002 10:23 PM
eyesopen -Will be up around your latitude tomorrow. I predict a day of trailing pursuant to today's break, complete with BLINDING sun, from same. While it's obvious that the ever-contemptuous debunker contingent finds continued discussion of chemtrails distasteful, it's my observation that **ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE** when people start looking in depth at CONTRAILS. Fascinating, no?
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msswv123
Senior Member
Gastonia,NC USA
123 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 10-18-2002 06:43 AM
>>when you people start cleaning house of all the liars, profiteers, and nuts, gather together and do some research, by scientific standards<<<Now there's an idea, suppose we should start in Washington~~~and then we'll move on to the the FDA,EPA and then it's off to the pharmaceutical,medical,chemical industry~(they sure make alot more profit than any of us) I'm sure we could get some of the gulf war vets, the agent orange survivors and those guys who just found out about the bio test in the 60's to help us..and I personally know a few people who were affected by ddt~ I bet they would be up for the challenge if their still alive... We definetily need a plan, I hope there are still a few scientist left who are versed in these subjects since so many of them have met their death over the past year or so~.....but first I have to run and put some more cream on this rash, grab a glass of fluoride and put on my "bug" spray~ Shoot, I'm sure my doc would write me scrip for prozac, that would make me feel much better and realize that "all" is well with the world, "don't worry be happy"...see all the "pretty clouds" and the sparkly particles...ring-a-round-the-rosie~as we go skipping off into the manmade sunset' (what a vision)..... repeat after me "it's only contrails' it's only contrails'....click your heels three times and you'll be in Kansas~....but take your own water, they seem to be runnin low~....T
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-20-2002 11:34 AM
All of these "progressives" you talk of are about to get their tails kicked and don't even know it. That is the harvest I am talking about. You desperately try to immitate the sixties "freedom movement" and effect change but George just handed the government over to the church and barely any of the "freaks" have noticed because they are all smoking pot and staring up at jet contrails and looking for reptilians. The sixties was completely controlled by the establishment "elites" and some compromised progress was allowed just so it could be permanently kick out of existance right about now (ripe meat awaiting the boot). Women have their backs against the ropes right now because they allowed themselves to be merely liberal rather than genuinely freddom oriented, and before long it will be a requirement that families have a male authority figure in charge of the house (it's only a matter of time now people). The church stands to make billions from tax dollars because they basically run an entire branch of government (the welfare branch) now and that means Christian Socialist rule eventually, as they gain power and take over all government. I just found out that I now have to vote at the local Catholic church if I want to vote at all. Youth sexual freedoms that were supposedly won during the sixties are now disappearing (no real freedom was won anyway because it was all jusr free sex rather than sexual freedom). To set up a harvest, you must sow seeds (the sixties) and then nurture the plants (Timothy Leary and other freak media) and then pick the fruit ("freaks" getting their tails kicked for good and Christian Socialism taking over through the Republican party). You all are about ripe now; you still think a march on Washington means something to the majority of people and can somehow convince them to change when in fact they simply laugh you off because you are all so completely lazy-minded and mostly wrong about nearly everything, especially chemtrails. You "freaks" about to get slaughtered in the Dionysian tradition, that is Scorpio cutting all of the freaky little grapes of Capricornus to pieces and casting them about the field of Sagittarius. Miss Taurus will have to find a way to put you all back together again in some sensible fashion so that you might actually build for yourselves a lasting freedom.
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 10-20-2002 11:45 AM
What's wrong with smoking pot,looking up at jet"chemtrail's",and looking for reptilian's? ROTFLMAO!!!!
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-25-2002 03:40 PM
I'm not one to say it is specifically wrong in the moralistic sense of the word because, in less dangerous times, it would merely be relatively harmless behavior. I am just saying that it is stupid to think that this behavior qualifies as "getting the truth out" and "effecting change." The Pope owns this country now and most people have no idea the power that was just handed over to the church. We are all hostages right now and it won't become obvious to most until the plug is pulled on the economy and we all have to march down to the local church and get fed while watching the church get rich off of governmment money and then buy land, corporations, and the government. Contrails are simply not an issue at the moment. It is no accident that all of this trauma is happening right now and people want to spout off about impossible conspiracies about chemtrails and reptilians. The people who made this nonsense up are human sacrifices and they are trying to take as many people out with them as possible. They will drag you down into the muck with them and all non-church people will become slaves. The mob is being built that will cut your head off.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-25-2002 03:44 PM
.....Contrails are simply not an issue at the moment.....
Not true.
As you perfectly well know.
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Khephra Sol
Senior Member
70 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 10-27-2002 09:40 AM
Sorry, this nonsense about poisonous jet contrails being used as a weapon against the people of the United States is just a bunch of dishonest profiteering and is also disinformation designed to make anyone who questions the government and who questions those who are taking further control over the government seem like nuts. The people who run these sites mix a lot of information into a disinformation pot and much of that information is outright lies and the rest is distortions. Very little of the information presented on this forum and site is anything but lies and distortions of the truth. Ice crystals left behind jets at high altitudes just doesn't qualify as an important issue when the church is in the process of imposing its socialism on Americans by becoming an effective branch of government that draws money out of the government's tax revenues. There are reactionary tv shows on daytime tv that need to be boycotted but people would rather fuss about contrails and impossible conspiracy theories (conditioned by the X-Files). America is becoming a mob and socialism is taking over. Soon anyone under eighteen will be an outright prisoner in this world and those over eighteen will be prisoners who are unaware of their predicament. These days drugs can be used to effectively terrorize children and adults without their knowledge (causes represion just like violence against children) but people seem to want to focus on nonexistant issues like chemtrails and reptilians and things that just can't happen. Other information about isuues like HAARP is also mixed into the pot and that information is rendered impotent because it is mixed in with nonsense about chemtrails that don't exist. This is clearly a disinformation site along with many other sites maintained by the likes of Jeff Rense and David Icke. You people are either completely unscupulous or are lazy-minded pot smoking dupes, or are just plain nuts.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-27-2002 04:21 PM
.....Sorry, this nonsense about poisonous jet contrails being used as a weapon against the people of the United States is just a bunch of dishonest profiteering and is also disinformation.....
SHOW ME where I have referred to population culling, or even obliquely implied reference to same. Thank you.
Am not even bothering to read the rest of your post.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Deborah on 10-27-2002]
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 10-27-2002 04:56 PM
Oh my GAWD that was funny!-----They will drag you down into the muck with them and all non-church people will become slaves. The mob is being built that will cut your head off.----------
I'd like to see them TRY to come and get me.
They will have a 9mm in their mouth.You label young people like myself "Potsmoking X-filers". I myself don't smoke pot and havent owned a Television in years. Isn't that just soooo convienient for you Kephra...to label a whole generation based on your paranoid wet dreams?
In case you haven't noticed most liberals and Democrats may as well be considered Christian Fundamentalists just as the conservatives are.There is little if any diference between the two. What the hell have you done K? Besides complain and demonize people who don't happen to subscibe to your narrow vision? In all actuallity I sincerely believe you are a strict arch conservative hiding in sheoples clothing.You are here to stir the pot and attempting to stiffle free speech. Not offer any real alternatives.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Mech on 10-27-2002]
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