posted 12-12-2002 04:28 PM            

WEATHER_WOOSES!

Isn't it amazing how one's job, and keeping it, has come to be so driving a force in the individual's life. Look at it this way, they're not killers of innocent women, children and the elderly. Their soldiers. That's their JOB. Civilian casualties are not PC, so it's called collateral damage.

posted 12-18-2002 02:42 PM            

I'm not really into the Christian religion, but I respect what you believe. My spirituality is different than your interpretation but I think it is vital that we all recognize that there are forces greater than us, for me it is the spirit of the collective soul of nature itself. This is a very vital part of my life. I think it makes me a better human being however "unscientific" it may be.

The people lacking in spirit and worshipping the "false gods of the flesh" are causing most of the problems. It's up to all of us to expose them for what they are. Stay clear of the fangs and venom.

They WANT us to be divided. They WANT us to fight amongst ourselves over miniscule, minute issues...so we will be unable to turn our hearts and minds against THEM and smash their agenda. We all know by now who "THEM" are.

When it comes to the weather, I think you are better off standing outside for an hour and FEEL the weather to get an indication of what may be coming in the next 12 hours. Works for me.

posted 12-18-2002 04:20 PM            

I feel Jesus was really a Pagan who was slaughtered by the Fascists of the time, The Romans, for talking a form of socialism. Even the Bible talks of false prophets and people using god's name. i.e., Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft. They are all BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS. Not Essenes, but false. Using the name of religion to get the bulk of people who are Christians to vote for them. They are the furthest thing from the true Jesus as you can get.

Taking the Christain belief line, we are swaying so far away from the original idea of the Lion and The Lamb lying down together, that, to use a Hindu term, this is our Karma, Chemtrails.

posted 12-22-2002 06:13 PM            

I am neither "right" nor "left", own guns, consider myself environmentally conscious, don't go to a church or subscibe to a particular book or doctrine, VERY spiritual, and guess what? Mainstream Large Christian organizations are backing the NWO plans thinking that this whole "terror" thing is "Christans vs. Muslims".."The New Crusades" Blahh, blah, blah.

It's the small churches that have the wisest groups of religious people who know this "terror ploy" is just an affront for one world government.They have my support.

I disagree with your sentiments. People who have spiritual lives..and beliefs will have the most will to fight and expose these slavemasters. WHO CARES what the European socialists say. We will expose them too.

The environmental/ecological movement by and large are aware of the NWO plans...they need to be wise enough to see through political party affiliation and religiuos preference.The globalists ARE taking advantage of the environmental movement to give an "ecological" reason for world government.Sounds to me that the "ecology movement" are the ones that are..."playing right into the hands" of the globalists.

You do make a valid point...but I think you are alienating people within the religious community,including me. Nobody here ever said you had to believe in a certain book, or god. They were just commenting on the role that spirituality plays in their lives.

If the "Ecological movement" members are too ignorant to figure out for themselves that people THEY are calling "right-wing" or "nuts" make up a large portion of anti-globalists and chemtrail activists. As far as I m concerned, their divisionist sentiments make them NO BETTER THAN THE GLOBALISTS... and...let them have their own bickering group of so-called dissenters.

Divide...divide...divide...

Let the powerful few keep us all down by labeling us and seperating us into cleverly defined seperated groups.

posted 12-22-2002 06:56 PM            

I would sincerely be interested in hearing what you have to say what effects the European Union will have on Greek sovereignty in the "Freeform" section of this forum.

thanks,

Mech

posted 12-22-2002 09:35 PM            

"I disagree with your sentiments. People who have spiritual lives..and beliefs will have the most will to fight and expose these slavemasters. WHO CARES what the European socialists say. We will expose them too."

W.H. I think I explained my situation. Aerosol spraying has started up here and I want to get my own reference group, i.e. the people whose actions I have some chance of influencing, to pay attention to what is said at this site. So the answer to WHO CARES is that I care, and exposing is not something that is useful for me. My objective is to get co-operation, not exposure or discredit.

Mech: "The environmental/ecological movement by and large are aware of the NWO plans..."

W.H. This is not necessarily true. Most ecologists I know have an aversion to what they regard as "conspiracy theories".

Mech: "they need to be wise enough to see through political party affiliation and religiuos preference.The globalists ARE taking advantage of the environmental movement to give an "ecological" reason for world government.Sounds to me that the "ecology movement" are the ones that are..."playing right into the hands" of the globalists."

W.H. Perhaps they do need to be wise, but often they are not.

Mech: "You do make a valid point...but I think you are alienating people within the religious community,including me. Nobody here ever said you had to believe in a certain book, or god. They were just commenting on the role that spirituality plays in their lives."

W.H. As I said, I am telling you what I need for the purposes of getting through to a specific audience.

Mech: "If the "Ecological movement" members are too ignorant to figure out for themselves that people THEY are calling "right-wing" or "nuts" make up a large portion of anti-globalists and chemtrail activists. As far as I m concerned, their divisionist sentiments make them NO BETTER THAN THE GLOBALISTS... and...let them have their own bickering group of so-called dissenters."

W.H. Perhaps they ARE no better than the globalists, or are globalists themselves. For me what counts is that they are the group I judge I have some chance of influencing.

Mech: "Divide...divide...divide... Let the powerful few keep us all down by labeling us and seperating us into cleverly defined seperated groups."

W.H. You do see that is how it works. Most people I know would not find their way to this site. The only reason I am here is through dallying with Eurosceptics. Through them I got to know Mike Ruppert (they were less impressed by him than I was) and then the wider milieu.