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Svaap
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Denver
2 posts, Dec 2002

posted 12-20-2002 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svaap   Visit Svaap's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen them for a while, but it looks like *right now* there is a spray operation underway. Numerous planes are crossing the sky and they aren't following the usual flight path of NORAD/Colo Springs OR DIA. If anyone in Denver has a digital camera, got out and photo it now! How anyone could not notice it is beyond me.

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bigjoe
Weather Observer

Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 12-20-2002 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info, Svaap, and welcome to the Forum!!! And thanks to the magic of the internet, we can really keep on top of these creeps. Yes, you are indeed getting plastered in Denver, and so is Boulder. Thanks to your Channel 9 weather cams and all the traffic cams located around Denver and my computer here at home, I almost feel like I'm right there in Downtown Denver. I now have more images of downtown Denver (and the chemtrails) than I know what to do with!!! And it looks like the fools are hitting you really hard indeed, Denver, Boulder and everywhere between! But they will get what's coming to them, hopefully sooner rather than later. It can't continue on like this forever. Just the fact that we're able to keep abrest of them like this and expose their agenda to the world right here on the internet is a big part of this battle.
And for anyone interested in keeping a closer eye on "our friends", go to earthcam.com There's a lot of good views from all over the planet on this website. Another good one I use for the northeast is hazecam.net Good views of Newark/New York City, Boston, Hartfort Conn. Burlington, Vt., Mt. Washington, N.H., and Arcadia Park in Maine, plus a lot of links.
Thanks again, Svaap, and it will pass. At least it eventually does over here in Rochester.

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bigjoe
Weather Observer

Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 12-20-2002 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, Svaap, you made an interesting comment in your posting that really started me to thinking, and if everyone doesn't mind, I'd like to make another comment and do a little ranting here. You stated that "How anyone could not notice it is beyond me." That's a very interesting comment and there's a LOT behind it. Since the CT's first burst upon my awareness last June, one of the major things that I've been finding myself doing is trying to find answers to all of this, and in this process, I have spoken to a LOT of people about all this and have gotten an infinate variety of responses. And like you, as I'm sure like every other CT watcher, one of the stranger and more bizarre things we begin to notice is that most people, like you said, just don't notice this whole thing. So, for the past couple of months I've been asking myself the same question... "why is it that approximately 98-99 percent of the population does not notice something that is so obvious, so aggressive, so disturbing and so in your face?" So, recently I put that question to a good and respected friend of mine who works as a thearapist in the mental health profession, and her response was basically the same as what I had been thinking for the past several months. The answer is very simple and perhaps us ct watchers should give the overall population a little more credit for intelligence than we have been giving them as of late. They DO notice them. They DO see them. The only differenc between them and us is that they simply cannot acknowledge this whole state of affairs to themselves. It is simply too big, too scary, too unbelievable and too much for them to handle. So, unfortunately, what is now happening, as least as far as I can determine, is that most people in this country are now walking around in a total and complete state of denial, and not acknowledging something that is right in front of them. I just can't think of any other reason why people can walk under a totally wierd, science fiction like sky that looks like it has come out of some horror or strange fantasy movie, and come up to you and say, "isn't it a beautiful day today?" At first I really didn't know how to respond to this all to common comment, but now I simply smile and agree with them. It's almost as if they were asleep, or in some sort of trance. And yes, it is bizarre, a very, very bizarre state of affairs. There's no denying it! As I said in an earlier posting, I sometimes feel as if I'm in some sort of science fiction movie where we are being invaded by hostile aliens from outer space, and they have the overall population at large in some sort of trance so that they can get their agenda across without any objections. The disturbing part about all of this is that this IS real. The hostile aliens are NOT from space. They are our own government and military forces hard at work right above our homes, towns and cities!
However, the bright spot that I see on this now quite stormy horizon is I believe this strange state of affairs can't continue on like this indefinately. Things are so strange, so bizarre and so totally out of wack and balance right now that the only direction that it can go is back to righting itself. It has to. I just can't see most of our population walking around in a total trance and state of denial forever. Yes, the ct's are very scary, but sooner or later they will have to acknowledge them, and when they do, I'm convinced that the "shit is really going to hit the fan", BIG TIME!!! I mean, imagine, how is the average American going to feel when he/she finally wakes up to the fact that the very government that they loved and trusted for so long has actually been dumpingand spraying toxic chemicals on them for many, manyh years? And I've been doing a lot of research on this whole ct thing and I'm discovering that it goes back MUCH farther than 1995. That year was only when they drastically increased the spraying over us! But I won't go into that one here... I'll save that all for a later time.
Anyway, let me end my ranting here on a positive note. Look at it this way. Ten years ago, the CT program was definately in full swing and there was a lot of heavy spraying going on back then. And you know what? Very, very few people, including you, me, and probably every member on this website knew they even existed. We too were in a trance and in a complete state of denial. The chempeople had the whole thing to themselves and could do whatever they wanted to up there in the sky and nobody was the wiser. Now look at the situation today. More and more people are wising up to this madness, and they in turn are waking up others to it, who are also, in turn, waking up others. And, as I mentioned in my previous post, we now have the "magic" of the computer and the internet, so that we can communicate, share & compare info & pix, etc. Yes, these fools now have the upper hand, but the situation IS gradually changing. As I said, just look at the situation ten years ago. Nobody was aware of this. 20 years ago (yes, they were here 20 AND 30 years ago, and further back than that), people just accepted these wierd, surrealistic chemclouds as normal! So think of a year, 5 or even ten years from now. This is NOT a static, stagnent situation and the chemtral program is totally at the mercy of the laws of change. There's no way they can get out of THAT one. People WILL wake up... it's already happening and we just have to be patient.

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-21-2002 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can thank the Globalists running the whole show.

It's definately not the majority of our government/military.

Just remember when Bush said that there is also a "shadow government" at work after SEPT. 11th. This was put in place years ago.

This "shadow government" is not recent despite what he'll tell you.




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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 12-21-2002 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big Joe, Ten,twenty years ago CT's weren't as profuse as now and the skies looked relatively normal. People in recent years have been waking up to many atrocities commited against them in the skies and elsewhere. SOME people no longer view doctor's as little gods as they once did and see the wisdom of organic food and alternative health care. Look at what's been exposed as being in vaccines, monkey viruses, mercury to name two. Many children have autisim as as well as have died as a result of vaccines. One might say look at all that didn't die, but that's no justification for what they put in vaccines. If you don't believe it, research it for yourself. The most serious of blind guides is Christendom as well as most other religions as they teach beliefs contrary to the inspired scriptures and at the same time fail to draw attention to the teachings that motivate moral, peaceful, war-less, honest, responsible God fearing (meaning respectful and desiring not to displease) lives. One serious ommission by all of them is that God's Kingdom, as a heavenly government, is man's only hope for survival. Regarding all world wide governments Ecclesiastes 8:9 says "Man has dominated man to his injury" Guess no matter who we are can disagree on that one.

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bigjoe
Weather Observer

Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 12-21-2002 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanie. I'm in total agreement with everything that you say. Religion today in our culture has become something very superficial and practiced only on Sunday. The rest of the time it's ok to worship the "religion" of George Bush, which is the religion of violence, alienation, fear, paranoia, greed and many other negative states of both body and mind. And the disturbing thing is that, at least according to the recent elections of last month, a majority of our fellow Americans are now worshipping this god. And the chemtrails are nothing more than one more symptom, or manifestation of this "mass group psychosis" that seems to have taken hold of our society.
As far as my research on the chemtrails goes, let me just say that I also agree with you completly here. 30 years ago the skies looked a LOT more normal. Over the past 5 months I have literally combed over thousands and thousands of outdoor color photographs, (chemtrails don't show up on most b&W photos), most of these photographs containing dates, fortunately, that go back to the mid-1930's, and continue all the way up to the present time; Dec. 2002. And what is gradually unfolding to me is quite amazing. When I first discovered the ct's last June, I was let to believe that they started around 1995-1996. But then I started looking at these photos, and they kept going back and back and back! The farthest back I've gone so far, believe it or not, is 1940. At first I couldn't believe that I was seeing a chemcloud in a 1940 photo (I'm now an expert in chemcloud identification, as I have now witnessed countless chemattacks and have spent a lot of time watching the chemtrails turn into various sorts of chemclouds, depending on winds, weather conditions, etc.), so I did a little digging and was surprised to find that even back in 1940 the Air Force indeed had the capabilities of lifting heavy payloads up to at least 35,000 feet. So that ended that argument, and I still haven't gone below 1940 yet. Anyway, as the 40's gradually went into the 50's, the spraying gradually increased. I was shocked to find many photos taken in the early 1950's of heaving spraying and the sky being totally obscurated! Some of these photos actually look like they were taken recently. By the late 1950's they really had their act together, and that's when the really heavy duty spraying began. I grew up in the 50's and 60's, took a lot of photos back then, and many of those "lazy, hazy" days back then were lazy and hazy, but in most instances, that hazy sky was a chemattack. I was shocked to discover this. And it's interesting to note that just a few months ago, and reported on CBS evening news with Dan Rather, the government was forced to admit that in 1959 and 1960 they had sprayed chemical and biological agents over Maryland, Florida, Hawaii and Alaska. That's all that CBS news said about it, but as I'm sure you, I and everyone else on this website knows, that's just the tip of the iceburg.
Anyway, the spraying continued through the 60's and into the 70's. Also of interest, I've looked at a lot of photos of the Vietnam war which took place during that time period, and there was a LOT of heaving spraying over Vietnam during the war. And the activitity was stepped up during the 70's and days of "total obscuration" became more and more common. I was stunned to view these photos of the late 60's and early 70's. And the activity kept increasing into the 80's. I believe that sometime during the early to mid -1980's a massive increase in spraying took place and I'm also convinced that that long, extremely hot, dry, nightmare summer of 1988 was not caused by an El Nino, as we've been let to believe, but by a massive amount of spraying activity that took place then. There are a lot of photos taken during 1986-1988 that show really massive spraying. It appears to have continued at this pace until somewhere around 1995-1996, when they ratched up the pace a few more notches, which takes us up to today, where as you indicate, Jeanie, the activity is quite intense, to put it mildly.
I was going to put all of this on a later post somewhere down the line, as I still have a lot of stuff to sort through, but since we kind of got on the topic, and it has been on my mind recently, I felt that this was a good opportunity. All I can say is that the photos don't lie. They reveal something that has been hidden for over 60 years. And frankly, I was dumbfounded to see many of these photos. I believe that the chemtrail projet was a child of World War II and the mentality behind it was dealing with the horrors of the chemical warfare that was used against us by the Germans during World War I. I also feel that it came out of the same secrecy, and fearful "mind set" that led to the development and birth of the atomic bomb, and because of this it was allowed to remain to secret and grow, nurture and flourish for over 60 years, all in secret, run by our "shadow government". And I also believe that the same state of mind that created it over 60 years ago is still in control of it now, only now the funding and technology behind it is literally threatening all life on this planet. This is an extremely dangerous situation that we find ourselves in today. And this all goes right along with Mech's mention of this "shadow government" in his previous post, and, as he mentions, it was "put in place years ago". A year ago at this time I never would have believed that any or all of this was possible or was happening. But the chemtrails have awakened me up to many new things, and many of them are very scary.

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Jeanie
Senior Member

North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 12-21-2002 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
***Well now you have aroused my curiousity, I'll be digging out the older family albums. Keep in mind that over the years the formula has been "perfected." These scum balls have a lot to answer to to God and man.***

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Svaap
New Member


Denver
2 posts, Dec 2002

posted 12-22-2002 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svaap   Visit Svaap's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all. It's interesting that you bring up the "in denial" issue of the U.S. population. Now bear with me here, I try not to be negative and down on my fellow Americans, but it's going to sound that way. What I see in every day life, interacting with many different people on a daily basis, are for the most part self-centered automatons bent on instant gratification and more concerned with who kissed who on "Friends" than what's happening in the "real" world around them. Young people also seem to be programmed for apathy and disrespect in everything around them. A perfect example: here in Colorado over the last week, some wacko killed his wife and then walked out into the mountains and killed himself. The newscasters were presenting the usual, gratuitious christmas story of how the community is rallying for the 13 year old son who lost his mother...you know the drivel. Anyway, apparently the kid wanted a dirt-bike for Christmas so a local motorcycle dealer came forward and provided the bike...a nice thing to do. Well, I was *flabbergasted* when this snot-nosed redheaded teenager comes on camera (remember, his mother was murdered les than a week ago) smiling, sitting on his brand new motorcycle, and says: "You know, I was wanting a dirtbike for christmas but didn't think it was going to happen after what happened to my mom." Smiles, hugs his motorcycle, end sequence.

Is it just me or is that unbefuc*inglievable!!! This kid's mother and father/boyfriend (not sure which) are gone because of a murder/suicide but boy is he sure happy that christmas turned out okay for *him*.

That's what I'm talking about: we're a nation of greedy, self-absorbed, pavlovian robots believing that the government can do no wrong, everything that's fed us over the hour and hours and hours of commercials and news is what's good for us...it's sickening and pathetic. It's no wonder the rest of the world hates us - we're as*holes with a Me Me ME FIRST attitude. I see it every day and it makes me sick in the heart and sick to my stomach.

Rant over, sorry. 8^)

-Svaap

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