posted 02-10-2003 07:46 AM            

I have already told you that if I were you I would be preparing now for how you are going to make the transition to the line that yes chemtrails exist but it doesn't matter.

posted 02-16-2003 07:38 AM            

Unfortunately “Ethnos on Sunday” does not have an on-line edition.

The inscription under the picture says: “The white trails left behind by this tanker plane (actually I don’t think it is a tanker plane W.H.), which is used normally for aerial refuelling, is not smoke but a cloud of chemicals which provide scientists with the ability to control the climate in an entire geographic region.”

There is a further subheading: “American aircraft are spraying the atmosphere with chemicals with a view to creating an artificial cloud as an “antidote” to the Greenhouse Effect.”

The article:

Unease and upset, both to scientists and to individuals active in the ecological milieu is being caused by experiments with peculiar aerial spraying of the stratosphere, which began initially in America and Europe but there are now indications that they are also happening in our country.

Indeed, two months ago, without there being any warning to local inhabitants, such aerial spraying was observed to occur over Aigina.

The environmental chemist with a master’s degree in environmental technology Leonidas Kardaras, the Australian philologist Wayne Hall with many years’ service in the ecological milieu and Tasia Andreadaki, former parliamentarian of the Ecologists-Alternatives, reveal to Ethnos on Sunday shock information on this subject unknown until now.

The aerial spraying, with aluminium oxide mixed with other chemicals dangerous to public health, carried out by American tanker planes, aims at creating artificial clouds in the atmosphere which will “filter” ultraviolet radiation and function as an antidote to the greenhouse phenomenon. Human beings will then have the capacity to “control the climate”, artificially cooling not closed spaces but an entire geographic region.

Climate control

There are also plans for the method for climate control to be applied to the whole planet, with a approval of a licence to the Hughes Aeronautical company which will carry out spraying with the “Welsbach” technique with a view to reducing global warming.

“The aircraft that participate in these activities, which in America are called “Chemtrails” include the KC-135 and KC-10 military aircraft”, Wayne Hall tells Ethnos on Sunday, continuing: “These are aircraft used by the United States air force for transferring fuel. There are also certain unmarked white jet planes taking part.

The nightmarish scenario of aerial spraying for climate control was inspired and elaborated by internationally known scientists, starting with the Russian Boudiko in 1974, followed by Pennet in 1984 and Teller in 1997.

The approach which has obviously prevailed has been that proposed by Edward Teller, “father of the hydogen bomb” and of the “anti-missile shield”, in a paper delivered in 1997 entitled “Global Warming and the Ice Ages: Prospects for Physics-Based Modulation of Global Change”.

What Teller proposed is a programme of spraying the entire planet with aluminium so as to reflect the dangerous ultraviolet rays from the sun but at the same time to allow the heat of the earth to escape. Teller’s paper emphasises the negative economic consequences of limitations such as those imposed by the Treaty of Kyoto to the production of energy from oil and coal, noting how much cheaper it would be to fill the skies with light-reflecting particles.

Testimonies

When Toni Thayer in America first reported the “strange spraying” in 2001, no government of any country would confirm that these flights were actually occurring. According to the Australian scholar (the Greek word could mean “teacher” or “university professor”) in 2002 the countries in which there were reports of these activities were the US, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Holland, Sweden, Italy, Croatia, Australia, Mexico, New Zealand and Haiti.

Since late 2002 it has been obvious that flights of this kind, which we ourselves have observed, corresponding to descriptions coming from abroad, are also occurring in Greece.

Two shorter articles follow:

One is entitled “Headaches, dizziness, loss of memory some of the symptoms”

“One does not need to be a medical specialist to imagine the possible consequences for human health of such a programme of spraying”, Leonidas Kardaras says to us.

“In an area of 50 square metres around the town of Espanola in Ontario where such spraying took place for months in 1998, the residents suffered by intense headaches, chronic joint pain, dizziness, sudden extreme weariness, intense asthma attacks, symptoms similar to those of influenza but without fever, and short-term memory loss.”

Laboratory tests of rainfall in the area found reflective quartz particles and levels of aluminium five times higher than the highest permissible limits allowed by the health regulations of Ontario province.

“Ken Caldeira has warned”, concludes Kardaras “that the placing of particles in the atmosphere could have effects the opposite of those expected, leading to a runaway greenhouse phenomenon.”

Underneath this there is a photograph, with the inscription: “The two scientists (scholars) point out to our correspondent the dangers to public health entailed in the specific experiments.”

There is another photograph of the former parliamentarian Tasia Andreadaki asking “Who gave permission for this spraying?”

“The information given to us by the scientists is frightening and I can’t believe that permission has been given in our country to carry out experiments in aerial spraying that is dangerous to public health” the former parliamentarian Tasia Andreadaki says to “Ethnos on Sunday”.

“Perhaps it isn’t too late to prevent the damage that is going to be done.”

“I ask every relevant authority, what purpose is served by these increasingly frequent flights by jet planes over our heads with very dense and long-lasting trails, which are not the normal picture given by temperature differences with ordinary flights.”

Is this strange spaying taking place in our country or not? Let us look at the subject now,” concludes Ms. Andreadaki, “rather than reacting with mass hysteria in future.”

posted 03-02-2003 08:05 AM            

Much evidence of extensive chemtrail spraying to the immediate north of Athens.

Chemtrails planes also sighted spraying in the vicinity of Lamia and over the city of Thessaloniki (even saw two of them doing a cross in the sky).

posted 03-02-2003 01:39 PM            

Halva, please explain to me what a "chemtrails plane" is. Is it a military plane? An Airliner? A business Jet? Or all of them?

And whats the deal with chemtrail believers freaking out every time they see contrails forming an X? Even the most uneducated person should be able to understand that, unless all the planes in the world are flying exactly parallel, they are eventually going to cross paths! It is not sinister at all, their flight plans just take them across the others flight track on the way to their destination.

posted 03-02-2003 10:52 PM            

So I repeat the invitation. Would you like to argue out the question of chemtrails with the Greek scientist whose television appearance of a week or two back you so much want to see?

If so I will try to see if I can get him to come here.

posted 03-02-2003 11:28 PM            

Again, after someone is able to point out the video to me, I will make a decision. But professor has still failed to bring me a valid link that has been updated in the last 2 years.

posted 03-03-2003 10:31 AM            

But PHX Pilot why is there one set of rules for talking to people who appear on television and another set of rules for talking to people who don't appear on television?

When talking to people in the former category do you have to be like those politicians who only agree to do prerecorded programmes where they can get their script from a teleprompter?

You seem to me to be a bit of a phony.

posted 03-03-2003 10:23 PM            

As I said before, If he brings up valid points that I have no rebuttle for, then I have no reason to speak with him.

posted 03-03-2003 11:37 PM            

But anyway, this is becoming a boring subject. I'm not motivated to try to chase him to get him to post here when I get so little encouragement to do so.

posted 03-04-2003 06:10 AM            

In other words you would not behave the way any normal sentient human being would behave.

You would just become silent and say nothing.

posted 03-05-2003 12:55 AM            

But I'll bear your questions in mind and get back to you as soon as I learn anything.

posted 03-12-2003 04:31 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by halva:
Do you mean "the professor" who posts here and said he would try to find a link, or do you mean the Greek scientist at the Democritus research center?

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posted 03-15-2003 10:29 PM            

Chemtrails: Mystery Lines in the Sky

How often have you stood looking up at more jet trails than you ever remember seeing before? Unlike normal contrails, which are usually short in length and short-lived, these thick white plumes linger for
hours. Laid down by two or more aircraft in criss-crossing X patterns, tic-tac-toe grids or perfectly parallel rows, chemtrails
turn clear blue skies into a milky overcast, in spite of forecasts calling for sunny weather. The US military and other government agencies deny that anything unusual is happening. Federal aviation
authorities insist that these are normal flight operations.

But in March 2000, when the US Air Force grounded hundreds of KC-135 jet tankers, to fix problems in their tails, chemtrail sightings across the United States dropped from 24 locations to just two. As
the big jets were returned to service over the following week, chemtrail activity climbed right back to previous levels.

Someone is stealing our skies. You know it's not passenger planes making these patterns, for these close-crossing aerial formations
often take place far from charted airways or navigational beacons. And break all the rules regarding the permitted proximity to
commercial aircraft.

Watch carefully and you can see artificial overcast being made by three and four engine jet tankers, usually all white or sometimes
silver in color. Even individual commercial planes such as this MD-80 airliner have been observed with unusually thick trails coming
from their tail or wing-mounted engines.

In a US Air Force Report on "Owning the Weather" weather force specialists refer to these spraying operations as "aerial
obscuration".

Contrails like this one usually form at high altitudes when the water vapour in hot engine exhausts momentarily condenses into wispy condensation trails. Though they can sometimes linger, according to the Air Force and Canadian aviation authorianies a record 92 billion dollars, three times the annual dollar cost of the Vietnam War. Bigger than big oil and the international trade in arms, insurance companies handling more money than many once sovereign nations, are one of the world's largest sources of investment capital.

Reeling from catastrophic storm losses of fifteen hundred ppcent over the previous decade, this powerful lobby pressed Ottawa,
Washington and Whitehall to turn down the heat on global warming. Rapidly rising rates of solar radiation were already sparking
epidemics of skin cancers and cataracts across North America, while costing US farmers more than 3 billion dollars in crop losses every year. The choice was stark. Disregarding the potential economic
benefits of converting to clean energy,
Lawrence Livermore calculated that cutting back fossil fuel by twenty percent to 1990 levels would cost the US economy 100 billion dollars a year.

But other calculations showed that using 700 air force tankers and possibly other aircraft to spray a protective sunscreen overhead could deflect one percent of the sun's energy, enough to neutralise
global warming. The annual cost of this aerial spray program? Only one billion dollars. No-one at Dr. Teller's office knows if this proposed program is being carried out today. But the technology exists.

In 1974 the US Navy patented a contrail generation apparatus to spray sunlight-scattering powders from jets. And in 1991 a patent for "stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming" was filed by the Hughes Aircraft Company. Besides reflecting incoming sunlight, Welsbach materials convert heat trapped by greenhouse
gases near the surface of the earth into far infrared wavelengths that radiate out into space. The Hughes Patent suggests these very
tiny metal plates could be "added to the fuel of jet airliners so that the particles would be emitted from the jet engine exhaust while the airliner was at its cruising altitude."

A former engineer for ALCOA aluminum says that aluminum particles as fine as talcum powder will not harm jet engines. He added that the aluminum exhaust called for in the sky shield patent would appear as a "pure white plume in the sky".

Linked with Alzheimer's and osteoporosis aluminum is a nervous-system toxin which can cause many of the symptoms observed after chemtrail exposure. Evidence of aluminum in chemtrails was found in the summer of 1999 after 550 citizens of Espanola Ontario brought a petition before the Canadian Parliament to stop spraying by US tanker planes that appeared to be making many residents sick. At a public meeting
on chemtrails the Ontario Mministry of the Environment refused to release their air quality readings But independent laboratory tests of rainwater samples taken after heavy aerial spraying found levels of aluminum particulates seven times above permissible safe levels. Other instruments later measured a dramatic drop in solar radiation below these artificial overcast

But clouds also act as a planetary thermostat, averaging day and night-time temperatures to make this planet habitable. NASA scientists say that even a small change in this delicate cloud balance can "eliminate global warming, or greatly enhance it".

Ken Caldeira, a physicist with Teller's climate modelling group at the Lawrence Livermore labs warned a conference of geophysicists that spraying chemicals to form a solar sunscreen could destroy the
ozone layer and trigger other devastating consequences.

Whatever chemtrails are meant to accomplish, the weather is getting worse. 1999 was the hottest ever recorded in the United States. Winds that hit Europe on the eve of the millennium knocked down 400 million trees, shut down two nuclear power plants, killed hundreds of people and stranded millions more without lights or power from the
Netherlands to Naples.

For the first time waterspouts were seen off Vancouver, Canada. And explosive jetstream winds touched down across the United States.
Following temperatures, strong winds and rain often follow chemtrails, along with acute ailments among people and animals on the ground.

Since heavy chemtrail spraying began almost two years ago, just about everyone, it seems, is sick or has been ill or knows someone who is sicker than they have ever been before.

During the 1999-2000 flu season, the Centres for Disease Control tracked a 31-week epidemic of fatalities from pneumonia and influenza-like illness. But when actual lab tests were carried out on patients jamming doctors' offices and emergency rooms across the US, seventy percent or more did not have the flu. CDC says an unknown pathogen
could be responsible for high death rates, particularly among the elderly, as well as drastic ailments whose origins doctors cannot diagnose.

Thousands of eyewitnesses report sudden symptoms of joint pain, nose bleeds, severe headaches, twitching eyelids, upper respiratory distress, earaches, asthma attacks, gastro-intestinal bloating and
pain, inability to concentrate, extreme dizziness, fatigue and memory loss contracted immediately after heavy chemtrail spraying. Can this be coincidence?

Government-sponsored 1-800 flu-reporting numbers suggest that the spread of these illnesses is being tracked, just as similar
outbreaks have been monitored during fifty years of covert open-air bio-warfare experiments on US, UK and Canadian cities.

Though few people are aware of this fact, it has been legal to conduct hemical/biological warfare tests on the American public for
decades. Abandoned in 1997, Title 50 stipulates that Congress must be notified and informed consent obtained from each test subject in advance of these experiments.

Chemtrails are not confined to North America. Eyewitness in at least fourteen countries are reporting spray activity. During three weeks in the winter of 1998-99 the BBC reported refrigerator trucks being
used as makeshift morgues to help handle 8,100 corpses, mostly elderly, who died suddenly, from influenze-like illness.

But the media failed to report the giant white Xs over Birmingham and London as more than 91,000 sick Britishers swamped hospitals and ambulance services.This year the freezer trucks were back in use in a
grim repetition, said the London Telegraph, of scenes outside hospitals last winter.

Once you accept that chemtrails are not contrails, the realization sinks in that the earth and its inhabitants are being subjected to unprecedented experimentation without our knowledge or permission.

In the face of official denials that anything suspicious is going on, the Internet and radio airways are rife with anxious speculation. Some say that chemtrails are intended to kill us all. Other observers insist that the disorientation and lethargy resulting from chemtrail exposure is intended to make citizens compliant to the New World
Order and enslave us all.

Based on the evidence presented in this video, the producers believe that the most plausible explanation for this massive aerial spraying is a planet-wide high tech campaign against catastrophic climate
change. If this is true, such a desperate bandaid solution disregards the fundamental causes of global warming in order to
protect powerful financial interests by permitting pollution and profits as usual.

It has been the experience of all who have reported chemtrail activity that federal, state and provincial governments refuse to
acknowledge chemtrails. Though denials come from every level, authorities responsible for public health, safety and the environment say they will act when forced by the public to do so.

If public pressure is the key then the most effective action is to alert people to what is taking place right over their heads.

Take this tape or your own footage and chemtrail photos to your local television stations. Remember cable producers are required to broadcast local content as public service announcements.

Don't be afraid to speak out. You'll be surprised how many people are noticing the unusual proliferation of jet trails but don't know what they're seeing. When enough people learn that these puzzling plumes
are really chemtrails, and that we are being sprayed with unknown substances without our informed consent, the message will spread and our leaders will be compelled to respond to respond to the concerns of citizens who have seen for themselves the mystery lines in the sky.