posted 01-11-2003 01:23 AM            

where are you from again ?

posted 01-11-2003 09:42 AM            

You will probably say "but they are military jets that are spraying." I will believe that once all the photos on here of airliners producing supposed chemtrails are gone. Im sick of you calling my friends and family muderers through chemming. THEY ARENT DOING ANYTHING.

posted 01-11-2003 03:18 PM            

Which implies it does prove something. Thanks

So tell me exactly how these aircraft are fitted with spraying systems that are some how invisible, weightless, never photographed by the public and discharge through static wicks that would have to be made of diamond to withstand the pressure of the flow required to produce any visible trail? Oh, and how so many people in the aviation industry manage to keep quiet about it.

posted 01-11-2003 04:46 PM            

When is the last time you saw a 737 being used to get bugs out of a cotton field? Or a 757 being used to fertilize a corn field?

Of course you can modify small aircraft (ex: Pawnee) to spray crops, those aircraft were designed to be crop dusters! Commerical aircraft do not have the available extra room to store a gigantic chemical tank. You will not be able to run pipes through the aircraft to the needed nozzles or outlets, not to mention the addition of these nozzles and outlets. If you had a 757 or similair that was not being used by the airlines for business, then you COULD do it under privacy, but the photos on this site show standard airliners being used to spray poison on us.

You could not do it without:
1)Absolutely re-organizing the entire interior of the aircraft.
2)Tipping everyone you dont want to know about the project to your intentions.

posted 01-11-2003 07:04 PM            

This just shows you don't read my posts. I answered this exact point pages ago. Please read that.

The technical problems with spraying systems no one's seemed to be able to counter. Odd.

Once MORE (for about the 4th time...) I'm not talking about military aircraft. My region of expertise is in COMMERCIAL aircraft and I am outlining my views AGAINST spraying with COMMERCIAL aircraft. I'm not talking about military aircraft or politics.

posted 01-12-2003 01:19 AM            

It is not beliefs that are the problem: it is the reality behind those beliefs. And it is a problem not only to those who believe.

You are wasting your time here. You do not really know what you are doing here, what your purposes are. This makes you different, I believe, from some others who are conceivably being paid for the efforts they put in here.

posted 01-12-2003 09:10 AM            

I will not repeat myself again.

I probably am wasting my time here, especially with people like you around. It just amazes me how people are so blind to the OBVIOUS truth. They are so disappointed with their boring lives that they are desperate for there to be something more interesting happening than just what they see. You cannot believe that commercial aircraft do not have spraying systems. Certainly you can't show me HOW they have spraying systems or you would have done so. As such, you accuse me of being in denial and even hinted on me being PAID to do this!!

posted 01-12-2003 09:37 AM            

That is the reality that brought me to this forum and for which I want to find an explanation. Your argument over military vs civilian aircraft, from which you seem to want to extrapolate arguments against the existence of chemtrails as such, to me is just a bizarre irrelevance.

It is true that I did try to buy into this argument of yours, but this was only after you had shown very clearly that you were wanting to draw illogical conclusions from your alleged knowledge that civilian aircraft could not be involved in laying chemtrails.

Are you at all interested in trying to give me an explanation of what is going on in the sky here in Athens Greece? Can you help me with your knowledge?

posted 01-12-2003 10:57 AM            

Are you at all interested in trying to give me an explanation of what is going on in the sky here in Athens Greece? Can you help me with your knowledge?

Ffs, please READ my posts. It's not hard to do.

posted 01-12-2003 12:33 PM            

Fact:

Any chemical in the fuel would get burned up in the combustion chambers of the engines.

Fact:

No chemtrail believer on this thread has yet shown a spray system, although I did find one idea (which I can show upon request).

Fact:

No chemtrail believer in this thread has yet shown how such a huge operation could be pulled off, with the consent of the airlines, without someone blowing the whistle. Thousands of people would have to know about this.

Fact:

None of the hardcore chem-activists, have yet mentioned the costs of this operation. We are talking millions of bucks per day. Billions per year. We might be able to pay down the deficit with what we spend on these supposed chemtrails! And what effect do they have? What are they supposed to be doing to people, again? It sure ain't working, whatever it is, and that's a hell of alot of money going into the operation on a scale of billions of dollars, and getting airlines to comply with the operation, for absolutely no reason!