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julianpenrod
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west caldwell, new jersey, united states
82 posts, Mar 2002

posted 01-14-2003 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for julianpenrod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07021-0284
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net

January 14, 2003


To all:
As important as it can be to fight the unscrupulous, it can be critical to recognize when it is occurring.
Within the past few weeks, there have been a number of curious occurrences. Any one of them could be eminently suspicious, taken together, there is little reason legitimately to say that they do not connote something unusual taking place.
Among other things, for the past one and a half to two months, virtually all the chemtrails over West Caldwell, New Jersey have been oriented north-south. There have been a few east-west chemtrails, but, for the most part, they have been north-south. There is little direct explanation for this in the issue of air traffic. Flights travel both north and south, across West Caldwell, but east and west, as well. In fact, Newark International Airport is only about twenty miles southeast of West Caldwell. One would expect a large amount of east-west chemtrails. In fact, until about two months ago, there was a larger fraction of chemtrails pointed east and west. Recently, though, they have been, largely, absent.
It may be a good idea to see what predominant direction, if any, chemtrails have been taking on, throughout the country, for, at least, the last few months.
Strange occurrences, however, do not end with chemtrails.
In the very recent past, there have been unusual gatherings of birds. Last Thursday, January 9, for example, for a distance along Passaic Avenue, in Fairfield, large flocks of birds could be seen, circling around or taking off from a number of properties. The areas they were flying around were not restaurants or stores, they were warehouses or office buildings, and there seems no record of such collections of birds there, before. True, they had some grassy space around them, but it was a warm and not very damp day, so the likelihood of insects coming up through the soil is not great. In addition, the birds were, mostly, taking off or circling, so it does not seem like they were there for food. Today, January 14, there were large flocks of several different varieties of birds, apparently, black birds or grackles, seagulls, and brown birds, like starlings, in a strip mall. The strip mall also sits on Passaic Avenue, but on the part of the avenue in West Caldwell. The mall has some restaurants, and sits next to a Shop Rite supermarket, but there was no food on the blacktop. Too, there is no indication that this kind of clustering had ever been seen there, before. Also, the birds spent very little time on the ground, now, too. Most of the time, they would circle in the air, or fly, as a group, all the birds moving together, from one side of the parking lot, to the other.
Earlier, too, looking up, above where I live, I saw what looked like tiny spots, circling around each other. They would circle in one spot, then swing to another, and begin circling there. Also, it seemed like only one of the pair would be visible as a silvery speck at a time. When one would circle, the other would not be visible. Then, the first would disappear and, in a completely different place, the other would show up. Watching them, I began to feel that there might slight tinges of dark brown on the specks. I began to suspect they might be two seagulls. At that moment, another seagull flew by no more than about ten feet above my head. I was all but certain, then, that they were seagulls. However, I had never seen them fly so high, before! Whenever I saw seagulls, before, they were always at a height where their wingspread would be immediately discernable. These were so far up that they looked only like dots! As an estimate, they seemed to appear no bigger than one-tenth the size of the seagull that flew by just overhead, which suggests that they had to be at least one hundred feet above! I have never seen seagulls here fly that high, and I have never seen occurrences like this circling by dots, high above! This is a completely different occurrence than I have seen, with respect to seagulls, in West Caldwell!
These, however, all but pale compared to one of the most apparently significant occurrences in the near past.
In about the last month to a month and a half, I have been noticing that passenger jets have been flying, in increasing numbers, at anomalously low altitudes, around West Caldwell. Their low height is obvious by their size. For the most part, jets before the last couple of months, passing by West Caldwell, covered a size of no more than about a quarter of a degree. Many were even half that. Now, there are some jets that can appear about ½º, but the remainder can appear up to 1 ½º or even 2 ½º in size!
Before Christmas, 2002, I remember seeing a few unusually low flying passenger jets. Many would also appear to be climbing. This cannot, however, be concluded to mean that they were just taking off, and were so low because they hadn’t gained height, yet. We live no less than twenty miles from Newark International Airport. By the time they reached us, they should already have gained significant height. Too, jets going in all directions, not even toward nearby airports, have appeared unusually large. Also, many of the jets that seem to be low in the sky are below 45º. Many were no higher, even, than 22 ½º.
If something in the sky is close to the horizon, their distance from the viewer involves both their altitude and some non-zero distance to the point directly underneath them. Something flying directly overhead has only their altitude between them and those looking at them. If a plane appears small, while at the horizon, then, it can be the distance of the plane from the observer that makes them look small, and not the plane’s altitude! Since many of the planes near the horizon appear about 1º or 1 ½º in size, now, that suggests they are some distance away, but flying very low! Planes flying directly overhead, these days, can be as much as 2 ½º in size! That suggests a height of much less than a mile for passenger jets around West Caldwell, these days!
And, because I see almost no planes of the small size I used to see, flying overhead, this suggests there are almost none at all there! Most seem to be flying no more than a mile high, over West Caldwell!
To be sure, I have seen some jets, flying overhead, that were as small as they used to be, but they were laying chemtrails!
And the numbers of these occurrences have been, apparently, rising dramatically.
Before about a week ago, they occurred, maybe, about once a week. Toward the beginning of last week, they began occurring about once a day! By about Wednesday, January 8, they had increased to about three a day! On Friday, January 9, I saw about five! During the weekend, I was not outside, much, but I still saw a few. Whether I am inside or outside, though, I can still see how large a jet can appear by looking through a window. Over the weekend, though, I was involved, and so did not look through the window, much, either. Monday, January 13, I saw about eleven, and, today, January 14, I saw at least fifteen!
This is rather reminiscent of a post by someone using the i.d. charper, on the pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails site. In that post, charper describes a strange, unmarked, white jet, cruising at well under 1000 feet, in the evening, over downtown Austin, Texas, using engines that were so quiet, they sounded like a “whisper”. Charper, themselves, claims to live in South Austin. Charper describes the jet flying south to north for some minutes, heading over the downtown area, until it disappeared over the horizon.
In what can only be called characteristic, disingenuous fashion, the “debunkers” immediately took it upon themselves to assign a plethora of suggested “interpretations” to the phenomenon, calculatedly other than those common on “conspiracy theory” sites.
A number of “debunkers”, for example, automatically called the post even being on the board into question.
“One thing I never understood about the stories of airplanes with the quiet engines”, cydoniaquest observed, snippily, “is why they always seem to be suggestive (to some people) of being a spray plane. Would spray planes have quieter engines for some reason?”
“It was whisper quiet”, LTC8K6 said, “but somehow you heard it?”
Stuart Allsop asked: “Are you certain it was a jet? Some turboprop planes can look an awful lot like a jet, and it would be easy to confuse them at night. Turboprop engines are much quieter than jets, especially at low power settings.”
With respect to the report that the plane had no markings, cydoniaquest asserted : “I think there are a lot of jets with white undersides, and there are many all white cargo jets”, while B1BLancer1 said: “Maybe it was a private jet or one belonging to an air charter company. It is quite common for them not to have markings.”
Leaving aside the fact that it is unlikely the FAA would not require some kind of marking on any plane to keep it visible, and that companies, generally seem to want something distinctive about their products, like markings, to make them recognizable, it is curious the “debunkers” find it so necessary to dwell on this aspect, at all. Usually, when a post is made about an all white jet, they “argue” that, high in the sky, a jet can appear all white! Why don’t they exploit the circumstances in this case - as they otherwise do - and say that, because it was dark, that charper just didn’t see the markings? The “debunkers” would say that they are honoring charper’s mentioning that the city lights illuminated the jet well, but the “debunkers” generally show no interest in honoring the statements by those who report seeing all white jets flying high overhead!
Their actions here suggest that there are genuine, unusual, unmarked planes flying over parts of the country, and that the “debunkers” know about it!
LTC8K6 asserted: “ I find it difficult to believe there are no airports near you. I find it difficult to believe this report, also.”
They then went on to proclaim charper “just another troll.”
It should be remembered that LTC8K6 has been ending their posts, lately, with a quote from a post I made, to the effect that, as vile as it can be to engage in the unethical, it can be just as malignant to see the unscrupulous and not acknowledge it. They then attribute it: “Julian Penrod- On how chemmies act”.
There is no way anyone could, legitimately, look at the post in which I placed that observation and conclude I was referring to chemtrail opponents, or “chemmies”, as the “debunkers” disrespectfully term them. In their arrested development way, LTC8K6 seems to think they are making a dig at me and the chemtrail opponents, by using my own words against them. In fact, LTC8K6 only shows the “debunkers” up for the apparent gang of inherent and inveterate liars they seem to be!
Cydoniaquest also spouts, contemptuously, “So, let me get this straight, it was leaving no trail, yet he assumes there is some connection to a spray plane here? I don’t get the line of thinking.”
The jet was completely anomalous, and behaving in an unorthodox fashion, flying where jets generally don’t, where they would have no reason to, flying very low, and making almost no noise. That that is strange is eminent; and unusual occurrences are often related to other unusual circumstances. Charper was merely making a statement and asking information. They were not asserting that there was a connection, but jets spraying chemtrails are jets, and they do act unusually - in spraying substances at high altitudes - and this was a jet, acting strangely. Charper never said there definitely was a connection, but they are good candidates for individual instances in a larger unorthodox situation!
LTC8K6 then offers that: “Noise abatement rules often force planes to glide over populated areas near airports”, and that “It could even have been holding for some reason.”
:Leaving aside such things as that the large passenger jets are not aerodynamically capable of significant gliding, if any, it is patently absurd that the jet could be gliding, with its engines off, and be in a holding pattern!
But this is characteristic of the “debunkers”. Rather than admit to the coherent scenario of jets being deliberately utilized on strange missions, with silent engines, and counting on the concentrated venom of evident quislings, such as the “debunkers” seem to represent, to keep comment down, they, instead, will try to sell a patently absurd concoction of mutually disagreeing considerations!
There is little, reason, based on their evident machinations, to consider the “debunkers” anything more than liars and frauds! There are, apparently, things being enacted by government, and the people have the right to know. The apparent policy of the “debunkers” to engage in wholesale deceit and abuse should not be allowed to prevent investigation into what is actually happening!

Julian Penrod

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julianpenrod
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west caldwell, new jersey, united states
82 posts, Mar 2002

posted 01-16-2003 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for julianpenrod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07021-0284
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net

January 15, 2003


To all:
Some important points can be added to the post from yesterday.
Among other things is the fact that the unusual flockings of birds may be only one aspect of a wider pattern of strange behavior. In the last couple of months, for example, birds in huge numbers have been seen congregating in trees, along telephone wires, along eaves and even on non-working chimneys in the West Caldwell, New Jersey area. For the most part, these seem to be just black birds or grackles. They also tend to take off in numbers of up to ten at a time, and fly swiftly to other spots.
While the presence of so many birds here, now, is unusual, since it has not been a mild late autumn or winter, so far, the fact that they are so concentrated near the ground may be due to the sudden tendency of jets to fly at less than 1 mile height. Fear of the jets may be forcing the birds down.
The question of just what does seem to be causing jets, at least around West Caldwell, New Jersey, to stay close to the ground, lower, it seems, than 1 mile, also can be addressed further.
The reason for this tendency can be any of a number of things.
Can it be, for example, that the chemtrails so determinedly spread everywhere have succeeded in ruining the air for jet flight? Can the materials spread through chemtrails be so corrosive to aircraft parts that pilots don't dare fly higher than 1 mile? Within the last few days, about the only planes I saw flying high enough that they could not be made out were also planes leaving chemtrails! Has the saturation of the air with a variety of materials changed the effective aerodynamic qualities of the atmosphere so that nothing can maintain flight there for long? "Debunkers" liked to claim that there was no way anything sprayed from a jet that high could ever fall to the ground. Maybe that was part of it, maybe what was spread was never intended to fall down, only to go up!
Might it be that radiation from the sun has intensified, in keeping with the reported change in its apparent color? Even without the possibly deleterious effect of chemtrail chemicals on radiation protection, the environment that high up may be more dangerous now than it ever was before!
In one way or another, flights seem to be being forced low to the ground, and this seems to be causing the anomalous behavior of birds in this area.
If memory serves, there is a quotation in the Bible, with respect to the iniquitous, that “the land will spit them out.” One can imagine the sky turning on those who have, apparently, despoiled it and refusing to allow anyone to fly there, anymore!
It can be helpful to have any reports of equally unusual occurrences, from around the country, either in animal behavior, the activity of chemtrails, the weather, the behavior of aircraft, or, in general, anything that has never been seen before.

Julian Penrod

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Can the materials spread through chemtrails be so corrosive to aircraft parts that pilots don't dare fly higher than 1 mile?

Could you please show some photos that show airliners in cruise below 5,000 ft? I would love to see that.

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julianpenrod
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west caldwell, new jersey, united states
82 posts, Mar 2002

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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net

February 9, 2003


To all:
As important as it can be to fight the unethical, it can be just as important to recognize it while it is happening.
The last post, by PHXPilot, essentially, insolently and disrespectfully requests pictures of jets "in cruise below 5,000 ft", ending with the dismissive, "I would love to see that."
Below is a compilation of a number of photographs of unusually low flying jets over West Caldwell and surrounding towns, since the beginning of the year. This is only a sample of all the jets I have seen flying very low. I am not saying that any of them are flying below 5,000 and, in fact, in my posts, I referred to a height of one mile in deference to charper's report on the pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails site. However, many of the observed altitudes are uncharacteristically low, and not once in recent history, before about three months ago, were there any planes observed over West Caldwell in this detail.

Some explanation to use the picture is in order.
The picture at the upper left hand side of the collection of photographs is a picture of the waxing quarter moon. The greatest diameter on this figure has a radian measure of about .009, or a degree measure of about .51º. This can be used for comparison with the pictures of aircraft.
Most of the pictures are of jet airliners, a number are of some Lear jets that flew overhead, and one, a picture to the right, and at about half the height of the collection, is of what looked like a seaplane that passed over the house. Many of the pictures, also, are sideways views, so they will look like straight lines.
The pictures were taken with a digital camera, set on a resolution that yielded pictures only about 555,000 pixels large. This was so that, for example, if there were a large number of chemtrails, unusually low planes, odd groupings of birds or other sights to photograph, and I was not near my computer to download the camera, I wouldn’t have to forego any pictures.
For the most part, the pictures that resemble straight lines are between .3º and .5º in length. The more detailed views of airliners are from .4º to .7º in size. The pictures of the Lear jets are the largest. Two are near the top of the picture, one is at the bottom. They are all about 1.2º in size. Near the middle of the group of pictures, and third from the bottom, is a sideways picture of a jet taking off from Newark International Airport, from about 2 miles away from the airport. It is about .6º in size.
This would amount to a distance, for the sideways views of the airliners, of 17,000 to 28,500 feet away, and, for the more detailed views, for the most part, of 12,500 to 23,000 feet. But that is not all there is to it. The sideways views of the planes were, in general, no higher than 45º in the sky, and most were 30º high or lower. The more detailed views were, generally, from almost directly underneath them, from no less than 60º high. If you view a plane from directly underneath it, the distance from it is entirely its altitude. If you view the plane at an angle, only part of the distance is the altitude; part of the distance is, also, the length to the projection of the plane on the ground below. If a plane is seen at an angle of 60º, for example, the altitude of the plane in only about 7/8 the total distance away. If it is viewed at an angle of 45º, the altitude is about 7/10 the distance away. And, if the plane is 30º high in the sky, its actual altitude is only half its distance from the observer. That is, if the object were viewed on a flat surface, but, for the surface of the earth, it is about the same, for objects that close. This means that, although the sideways views of jets were from a distance of up to 28,500 feet away, their actual height seems to have been no more than about 20,000 feet! That would agree with the height values gotten from the overhead views, that planes have been flying no higher than 4 ½ miles, when they should be up to 7 miles high! The largest view of a large passenger jet, at the bottom of the collection of photographs, is about 1.7º in size. That translates to a radian measure of about .029, and that would indicate a height of about 5,350 feet, or only a little over a mile! Certainly, it is note-worthy when jets flying over residential areas more than 15 miles from the airport are visible in such detail that they can be made out in even low resolution photographs! It is important to note, too, that the sideways views of planes over areas 15 or more miles from the airport are almost as large as that of a plane, just taking off, viewed from about 2 miles away!
With respect to the two Lear jet flyovers, the distance from those came out to be about 2,900 feet, in all three cases! The one to the immediate right of the picture of the moon was taken from about 60º higher, or more, and about 4 miles from the Essex County Airport, in Fairfield. One of the other Lear jet pictures was taken at an angle of no more than 30º high, and was about 1½ miles from the airport. The picture of the Lear jet at the bottom of the group of photographs was taken at about an angle of 60º, and, also, about 1½ miles from the airport. These jets, then, seem to have been between 1,400 and 2,540 feet high! “Debunkers” may try to “argue” that the second and third jets were preparing for landing, but the jets were flying over a residential area, and it is unlikely that that would be acceptable. Certainly, they had never been seen to fly there before! And it is not likely that they were emergency landings, since there was nothing in the newspapers about that, the day after each. It should also be mentioned that I do not remember ever seeing a Lear jet landing or taking off from the Essex County Airport, before.
As for the speed of the jets, taking an informal measure, by watching the jets pass a point and counting how long, in seconds, it took, indicated a speed of about 210 ft./sec., or about 140 mph for the jets. This is far less than any of the indicated cruising speeds for jets, but I never said these planes were cruising at that height. I only said that passenger jets of any type were never seen to fly this low over West Caldwell, and the areas around it, and they never were!
There have been a number of continuing odd bird behaviors, also. Large numbers of a greyish, sparrow like bird have been congregating in trees in the area. Their chirping can be heard for long distances, and we have never had huge groups of birds chirping in the middle of winter before. Chevrons of geese have been flying south all through the winter. They should, rightly, have migrated long ago. Large numbers of grackle like birds still can be seen collecting on yards and open areas, then rising in large flocks. Grackle like birds can also be seen sitting in large groups along power lines and along the edges of rooftops, and that was rarely seen before, even in spring or summer! Seagulls have been traveling in small clusters of between 3 and 10 birds. Thursday, February 6, a train of the greyish birds, about twenty feet above the ground, and about forty feet thick, and containing at least 200 birds, passed by our house. It took about a minute to completely pass by. I can provide photographs of these, as well.
In the end, it seems eminently likely that there is something in the upper atmosphere that jets may be trying to avoid. And either this substance high up, or the low flying jets and other aircraft may be what is keeping birds from flying as high as they used to, or even migrating away, as they used to.
Nothing unorthodox or unusual should be denied or ignored. Even if it turns out to have nothing to do with chemtrails, it could still be something worth examining!

Julian Penrod

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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net

February 9, 2003


To all:
The photograph I placed on Chemtrail Central did not appear as it should in the previous post. The address for the picture is www.chemtrailcentral/imgdb/img/1744-img.jpg. It can be accessed directly. The following will attempt to access it again:

Julian Penrod

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Nice of you to respond. But heres the deal, it is 11:15 PM right now, and I am about to fall asleep while writing this. So heres what im gonna do, tommorow I will do a little research into West Caldwell NJ and its surrounding airports. I will investigate any changes in noise abatement procedures at any of these airports, which could be the cause of the new flight paths over this neighborhood. I will investigate the amount of traffic these airports recieves and the normal flight paths. And I will read your post more in depth tomorrow as I am sure I missed some of it just now due to my drowsy state.

Expect a full response at around 5:00 PM tommorow

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Phx pilot might be able to explain the videocapture panorama featured on: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/homepage.html

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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net

March 20, 2003


To all:
The anomalous behavior by birds, at least near West Caldwell, has continued since the last post I placed under this topic.
To a large extent, the strange behavior includes odd roosting behavior. In the last few weeks, we have seen small sparrow like birds, larger, plover like birds, and black, grackle like birds roosting for a time along the edges of roofs, along high tension wires, and at the tops of trees. Their presence, during such a brutally cold and unusually snowy winter is strange. For them to roost so openly is all but unheard of even during mild weather, in the spring and summer. There are neither any small game or plants that carnivorous or vegetarian birds could eat, so looking out for food is unlikely. There are not that many large predator birds around, so looking out for them is not likely , either. More than that, if they were afraid of large predators, they would, likely, look for more secluded areas to roost.
Other strange behaviors deal with the birds in flight.
Among other things, roosting birds in West Caldwell tend to suddenly, all but randomly, erupt, all at once, and fly en masse away from where they were sitting. At times, they will circle the area where they had been, then settle down again near where they were. Other times, they will circle, then fly away. At other times, they will fly in huge, extended groups, amounting to, evidently, more than one hundred birds, from one spot to another. At other times, these birds that appear to cluster together may be seen flying alone.
On Friday, February 28, for example, there was another linear procession of sparrow like birds, north, along Fairfield Avenue, in West Caldwell, consisting of at least 100 birds, flying in a line about 200 feet long, about fifteen feet high, and about 10 feet off the ground. I saw only about 20 seconds worth of the procession, it may have been longer.
Within the last couple of weeks, also, I have seen at least three chevron shapes of birds, but they were not geese. In fact, their color and appearance seemed like that of seagulls! They did not have long necks, and they were not honking, so I know they were not geese. I have never seen seagulls, or any birds, other than geese, fly in V-formations, or heard of it! In a couple of cases, these V-formations flew to a spot, then broke up, and the birds in them circled in place. I have never seen or heard of behavior like this before! The following is a picture of these chevrons.

On Saturday, March 15, a group of birds flew past the house in a nearly perfectly straight line. They were not geese, they seemed to be the same birds who have been flying in chevrons.

On Friday, March 7, along at least a two-mile stretch of Route 80 in northern New Jersey, birds roosted on telephone or high tension wires along the highway, but only on the portions of the wires that attached to the poles. Almost none sat in the middle of the wires! For the most part, I have never seen birds sit on only one section of the wires before. Of about forty birds, only one sat in the middle of the wire!
Looking at the behavior of birds around here, though, I have noticed a number of apparent patterns. Among other things, birds tend to erupt from their roosting spots about 3 to 5 minutes before an unusually low flying jet passes overhead. This doesn't seem always to be the case, but many jets have been flying slightly above low-lying clouds, so it's not always easy to tell if they are low in the sky. There are those who may try to say that the birds are startled, but, in about half of all cases, they have flown toward where the jet is, and, in about half the cases, away. Also, in a number of cases, birds have flown calmly toward where a low flying jet is. In at least two cases of birds flying in chevrons, they flew toward an approaching jet, then they circled in place below it.
On Saturday, March 15, too, at least one hundred seagulls were congregated on the strip mall along Bloomfield Avenue, near our house. “Debunkers” will, likely, be tempted to try to “explain” this by saying that seagulls would tend to go where there would be a lot of food, and, yes, there are many scraps on the ground in the mall. But there have never been so many seagulls there before! There were never more than a couple of dozen birds, at best, which is understandable, since West Caldwell is at least forty miles from the nearest coastline! And there were never seagulls in winter! If, however, it is assumed that there is something literally scaring the gulls away from the coast, that could explain their collecting in such numbers, so far inland! And there seems little reason not to assume chemtrail spraying may be at least partly associated with this, too.
On March 19, though, I saw a group of ducks and geese in a park near the house. There were low flying jets over the park, too, but they didn’t seem to faze them. They didn’t suddenly fly away when the jets passed overhead. Also, I didn’t see any direct indication of the flight of the geese we did see mirroring the paths of the jets over the park.
Recently, there have been a number of odd reports about birds, throughout the country. There was, for example, a report of hundreds or thousands of birds found apparently electrocuted, after resting on antenna wires. Also, it doesn't explain their behavior in flying in chevrons or huge flockings. There were reports, too, of a thousand or so grackles apparently found littering a courtyard in California, supposedly poisoned. Large numbers of pelicans have been observed to be dying, in Florida, and there have been reports of large numbers of birds in Argentina and Chicago being found dead, also. This made me wonder about what was happening with the birds near West Caldwell.
Because of what happened to the birds that were electrocuted, I thought, perhaps, that birds may be sensing build-ups of current in the wires they were sitting on, near where I live, perhaps from extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves, or some output from HAARP, and that that was causing them to suddenly fly away, but they behave that way when roosting in trees or on roofs, too. The passage of low flying jets seems more related to this behavior, and, perhaps, the other strange behaviors, as well.
Looking for a connection between low flying jets and odd behavior in birds, I began to think about Global Hawk, or Project Home Run, the putative method for remote controlling aircraft. This would, likely, be achieved through radio signals. Radio constitutes extremely low frequency electromagnetic radiation, and is what HAARP uses a great deal. Powerful, but unusual, radio transmissions, then, could be related to what is happening to many birds, powerful electromagnetic radiation could be interfering with, or even partially controlling, their behavior. It could, certainly, explain their sudden bursts of activity when a jet is approaching, and maybe even their tendency to fly directly toward or directly away from the plane. If it is microwaves which are used for remote control aircraft control, that could be linked to many of the deaths that appear, either, to have been caused by high voltage, or, in the case of grackles found dead in California, the fact that their internal organs seemed to have been liquified.
There may be a point to some of this, though, especially in ducks and geese, apparently, not being affected as are other birds. Geese and ducks constitute what, at least colloquially, are also referred to as "fowl”. Fowl differ from other breeds of birds in a number of ways. Among other things, they tend to be bigger than many other breeds of birds. To, they tend not to be as skittish or frenetic in their movements. Fowl, generally, can move more slowly, even deliberately. Additionally, they seem to tend to carry more bodily fat than the smaller breeds of birds. Whatever body chemistry makes other breeds of birds more frantic may also make them more prone to the effects of aircraft remote control, ELF or HAARP transmissions.
It cannot be necessarily taken for granted, these days, it seems, that conditions are the way they should be. People should be willing to acknowledge the strange or patently unorthodox, despite the protestations of those who would demand that they be ignored!

Julian Penrod

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Julian
I agree with you. There's
something rather bizarre
about the bird behavior
in your area.
Have you considered looking
into yahoo groups? You might
find a bird watcher group to
discuss this with -
at least you'll find a sympathetic
ear and won't be subjected to
abuse by some of the debunkers.

You may be on to something.

quote: Julian

" Radio constitutes extremely
low frequency electromagnetic
radiation,and is what HAARP
uses a great deal. Powerful,
but unusual, radio transmissions,
then, could be related to what
is happening to many birds,
powerful electromagnetic
radiation could be interfering
with, or even partially controlling,
their behavior."

I'd be interested in anything you
find out.

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