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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 05:53 PM
   
No of course not, thats why you dont see the same contrail for days on end. But airmasses can maintain the same properties for a pretty good length of time. And when they are as stable as that, then contrails can last a good length of time.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2003 05:54 PM
I suggest you get yourself a barometer....why do you suppose that new mexico is drier the louisiana ? nevermind cold dry air will usually render short lived trails and moist air will render fat spreading trails like the photo I posted.... emfx those are ALL commercial flight contrails... my new years resolution was not to talk trails anymore...damn... 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 01-28-2003]
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 05:57 PM
So that's why they start making the trails at night (cold) so that they are around during the day (hot). I thought a change in the "shower" makes them disappear.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2003 06:01 PM
whew !your playing with me and I have not the time for it.... 
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by theseeker:
whew !your playing with me and I have not the time for it....
Uhm, it was a legitimate statement/question.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:04 PM
You have to remember that its not just temperature that keeps contrails around. Temperature is a very smal part of it. It is mostly other things that can stay the same throughout the day.
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
You have to remember that its not just temperature that keeps contrails around. Temperature is a very smal part of it. It is mostly other things that can stay the same throughout the day.
And again I post the observation that, apparently this is okay with our government... planes that leave behind "innocent contrails" that, by the way, alter our enviornment and our weather.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 07:12 PM
I have absolutly no clue what you just tried to tell me.Soooo, that government is ok with the fact that temperature is not as vital as other things in the formation of contrails? I guess thats good, because if they werent ok with natural laws, we would have a problem. Dang gravity!!!!
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 09:19 PM
It's funny , when I'm driving on the highway
I see the sprayplanes out often. (no not
every plane sprays) but the ones that do the
on and off, hard banks and criss crossing back and forth. and then BAM a cloud within hours. If you wear sunglasses you can see
the mist better. Now gentlemen we both know
contrails don't look like rain clouds 500 ft
up and misting out over the populated city.
Anyone with timelaspe video capabilities
can easily disprove theories.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 09:28 PM
Hey there, could you elaborate on what you mean by "500 ft"? I am assuming you are saying that these chemtrails are 500 ft off the ground? If thats not what you meant, sorry, I missed it. If my assumption is correct do you have any photos showing these low altitude chemtrails?Thanks.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 10:02 PM
the plane wasn't at 500 ft the mist from
the all day sprayings were.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-28-2003 10:04 PM
OK, i propose an experiment
We put theseeker in one shower
PHXpilot in (for scientific and ethical reasons) a different shower
then we turn on the gas (i mean "atmosphere")
we seal the gaps around the door with duct tape~ so no whatever Outside forign or whatever air gets in there to mess up
and after 24 hours come in with a video cam
to record once and for all
if the mirror is still steammmmmmmmy
we could call it "shower shock jock"
and make bazillions of dollars off the lamb brain COM mer CIA als
then spin that money into millions of crystal
chemtrail lawn ornaments said to deflect
you just have to laught
while this occurs
OK
"sweet talker"
just trying to make you all harrpy
maybe i will start harkin vitamines and paper masks
But i quess not here
if ever a thread was a candidate for a flushing
you two have made it so
[Edited 1 times, lastly by mark sky on 01-28-2003]
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 10:07 PM
Just for that he's gonna spray lower tommorrow.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 10:12 PM
Oh ok. Just needed to clear that up. So essentially you are saying that whatever these planes are spraying is settling down to 500' AGL? Well, cant really find a way to respond to that other than 'Ive never seen it'. Soooooo I guess I have to say, any photos of this? I'd be interested in seeing them.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-28-2003 10:24 PM
before the bi valves pumped it
this was the original statement by Billy D
"as of late i've noticed alot of what i like to call "sneak spraying." there have been quite a few planes releasing ther payload while flying through cloud banks then hitting a cut-off switch as they emerge on the other side into blue skies. once the pass through the clear and into another bank the spraying re-comences. theres still alot of spraying being done on the west coast"
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2003 10:41 PM
there is no spraying going on markie...now if you call aircraft engines "running" in flight at a level where contrails can form and producing a "white plume" of nox sox soot and water....if you call that spraying...well then yes there is spraying going on.... where is this definition located...anywhere ? btw, your boy willy thomas spoke of an "impending" FAA employee crossover to confront the gov about the spraying... well ?
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 10:46 PM
round and round and round it goes
where it stops nobody knows
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 10:50 PM
So no photos then?
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2003 11:04 PM
in the above is why discussing "chemtrails" is futile...folks who believe will continue to and no proof is good enough...no pilots no military no scientist no meteorologist not even a mobile electronics technician ~par excelance'~like meself will ever convince those who "believe" that their god is a false one... I'm heading back to the bottom half of this board which lends itself to a slightly less circular arguement.... bye bye and buy bonds 
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-29-2003 11:13 AM
>>And again I post the observation that, apparently this is okay with our government... planes that leave behind "innocent contrails" that, by the way, alter our enviornment and our weather.>>------------------
>>I have absolutly no clue what you just tried to tell me.>> One more time then. You maintain that these contrails are natural. Ok then, at the very least these "natural" contrails aren't innocent because they control weather and completely change the enviornment (ie- a once gorgeous blue sky is now, hours later, ridden with man-made clouds).
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