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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-30-2003 05:33 PM
and many businessmen/doctors don't REALLY want a cure, This site spews some irrelevant and non-sensical stuff all the time, but this is going too far. What an outrageous and disgusting thing to say. If you honestly believe this then you are on sick person. But, as usual, everyone will lap it up because it's "cool" to be a "rebel" and post stuff on the internet about how the world is ending and how the government are controlling us. Did you know that boeing is being paid billions to modify the KC-135's? Ever wonder what kind of systems are going to be tied to the CFM56's from the belly of the KC?
Fuel systems? It's quite hard to re-engineer and aircraft. A CFM-56 is a CFM-56. You can't suddenly put in a spraying system and there are certainly no provisions on a 707/KC-135 for any spraying systems at all, let alone linked to the engines through the pylon some how. Assuming Boeing was being paid enough to do this secretly (although god knows why, as they don't make much money out of military contracts, commercial is the cashcow) how exactly would Boeing keep all the design engineers, suppliers and actual production staff quiet? Even if the minimum number of staff were used, a LOT of people would know about this, including a lot of management. People working on aircraft aren't stupid, and anyone near the aircraft would have to a. be "in on it" and b. keep quiet about it. Not very likely I think you'll agree!! PS. I know you probably won't, but anyone with an ounce of common sense (linked to my name, getit? With the average IQ of this board you probably won't...) can see how incrediably stupid this theory is. 
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing

Phoenix, AZ, USA 800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-30-2003 06:18 PM
Bingo.This is incredible. No, Ive never wondered what they are going to have connected to the engines from the belly because it has all the same stuff running to it as every other CFM-56, theres nothing to wonder about. And why are you asking me the capacity of the chemical tanks? Since they dont exist I wouldnt know. But, again, most aircraft have very little extra room in which to house a big enough "chemtank". Aircraft operators dont like to have a lot of extra room on board because that is available space and weight that is not being used which could be used to carry somthing to make money. Unused room slowly eats money away. And what, pray tell, are they supposed to be obscuring? 
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-30-2003 06:19 PM
"This site spews some irrelevant and non-sensical stuff all the time, but this is going too far. What an outrageous and disgusting thing to say. If you honestly believe this then you are on sick person. " Did you ever have a life threatening illness? Did you read the testimonies of sick people cured that were told by businessmen doctors that there was no hope? Do you know anything at all about the corruption in the Medical Industrial Complex? How old are you? Have you personally held off a killer disease for 45 years? I didn't think so.
You are a spouting fool, Common Sense. You know nothing about healing. The poor friend of Im Confused has been harmed by orthodox medicine, and all you have to say is more crap that've heard a hundred times. Im Confused didn't seem to mind the info.
Put any of your medical opinions up, and I'll debunk anything you say. That's a challenge, you worthless piece of garbage. Another thing, why aren't you offering sympathy for Rainheart after the loss of his mother, or are you so sadistic that act is below you. Oh, I notice only bleeding heart chemmies offered sympathy.

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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A. 551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 01-30-2003 08:27 PM
+++ I'LL SECOND THAT +++ 
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-30-2003 09:14 PM
Yeah Jeanie, I'm all fired up, but in an Alpha Brain Wave State after reading CS's nonsense. I also had a HUGE glass of Wheatgrass Juice.Cheers 
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crazymomlady
New Member

Port Orchard Wa. U.S.A. 15 posts, Jul 2002
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posted 01-30-2003 10:24 PM
"Being a native Floridian, I am inclined to think that this is a weather modification thing...because I just cant understand how it is so damn cold here!!!" Right on I'm Confused, I've noticed it too. I live on the Kitsap Penninsula in Washington state and this has been an exceptionally warm winter. I've seen plants that are blooming that shouldn't until april or may. No snow at all either, barely any frost. The temp is up in the 50's nearly every day. Jan. and Feb. are our coldest months it should be around the mid to low 30's peaking to the mid 40's. 
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member

Orange County, CA,USA 162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2003 10:19 AM
Here in So. CA they predicted mid 80's weather. I told people around me "watch the sky tomorrow.. you WILL see chemtrails...".Sure enough, it's 8:25am and they're already starting! This time they are going in totally straight lines along the ocean. I didn't see a single solitary chemtrail or cloud since President Bush's speech the other day. 
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2003 11:13 AM
Did you ever have a life threatening illness? Did you read the testimonies of sick people cured that were told by businessmen doctors that there was no hope? Do you know anything at all about the corruption in the Medical Industrial Complex? How old are you? Have you personally held off a killer disease for 45 years? I didn't think so.I have seen three people very close to me die, two of cancer and one of HIV/AIDS. This doesn't make me an expert but I don't really see what your point is... You know nothing about healing Yet people with the same knowledge as I claim that doctors DO NOT WANT to cure cancer!! Incredible! you worthless piece of garbage. Most sites have a policy against personal insults. I guess this one will slide past because I'm on the wrong side. why aren't you offering sympathy for Rainheart after the loss of his mother, or are you so sadistic that act is below you Why should I offer sympathy? I am on the internet...it won't make any difference to him. It's funny how you call ME sadistic and insult me...I'm not the one saying that doctors don't want to cure cancer. after reading CS's nonsense. Yet you can't challenge my technical claims. I notice how no one has challenged my or PHXPilot's technical claims about chemtrails...very telling.

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-31-2003 11:57 AM
Go to Sleep Common Sense. You have no technical claims, and if you do, I'll be there to debunk them. I'm waiting.
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2003 12:10 PM
Go look at my thread entitled "chemtrails don't exist" and respond to those technical facts.
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-31-2003 01:27 PM
What for? You are espousing theories. No one has come up with any 100% conclusive evidence for or against Chemtrails yet. There is anecdotal evidence on both sides. I am 90% convinced of the evidence of Chemtrails, based on video and photos from as far back as the 50's, and current observations. Nobody is going up into chemtrails to see what they are comprised of. On the other hand, my experience with alternative healing, doctors, and disease is closer to home. I'm not saying all orthodox medicine is bad, just about 90% is. I edited a video called, "AIDS:The Untold Story" that won the best documentary in France in 1994. We interviewed 250 people, many Nobel Laureates, including Dr. Fauci, Dr. Sonnebend, and Gallo himself. The AIDS virus has NEVER been electron microscopically photographed! Only computer simulations. What is AIDS is a combination of many factors, least of which is extreme immune depletion by various lifestyle and drugs choices. If you have warts, it shows up as HIV positive. Then they give you a banned chemotherapy drug, AZT, which does the killing. All the survivors we interviewed that were healthy, never took the pharmaceutical drugs, but instead used alternative means. A total scam.
Watch the video, then come back to this post and I'll dismantle your naive opinions on the MEdical Industrial Complex.

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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2003 01:44 PM
So what you're saying is, than on a chemtrail site, you won't disprove my technical facts, as presented in another thread, the directly related to chemtrails, despite the fact than you have said you would?And also you're still trying to prove some weird point that there are doctors who don't want a cure for cancer? Orthodox medicine cannot cure cancer? Something like that? I honestly haven't a clue. 
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA 1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2003 02:10 PM
Hey Swamp, I read somewhere that if aids patients were to put electrical current through their blood stream they could cure it or reverse it. The guys first name was Dean, interesting story behind it him and his father did scientific experiments with mycoplasma. I think Cliffords site had an interview on him once.
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-31-2003 02:26 PM
Prof, We had a segment of the electrical current aspect in the video, along with heating the blood. The problem was that AIDS is not a single pathogen, but multiple causes, such as amyl nitrates, antibiotics, hepatitis, cocaine. etc, which completely wrecked the immune system. We had an interview with a guy who, as I said before, had warts, which showed up as anti-bodies for HIV. They cannot test directly for the so-called AIDS/HIV virus, but test for anti-bodies. A lot of false positives come up like that. I know were going off thread, but chemtrails and health are closely linked. If lies can come from the medical establishment, the government can also fabricate and deny aerial spraying truth.
Check this out: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/
http://www.garynull.com/Events/FilmAwards.aspx Oh, Common Sense, The Tooth Fairy will be dropping off a quarter for you tonight. Oops, inflation, she'll be dropping off 15 cents instead.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by swamp gas on 01-31-2003]

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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-01-2003 07:23 AM
Oh, Common Sense, The Tooth Fairy will be dropping off a quarter for you tonight. Oops, inflation, she'll be dropping off 15 cents instead. Well seeing as though I'm British that's going to be pretty hard. Inflation would mean a nice healthy RISE in the amount I get from the tooth fairy...unless there's localised deflation in her sector. And you STILL haven't challenged the technical facts I presented in the other thread... 
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 02-01-2003 11:30 AM
"And you STILL haven't challenged the technical facts I presented in the other thread..." You are a THEORIST when it comes to chemtrails, so you're OPINION is worth no more or less than anyone else in this forum. On the other hand, I have been dealing with doctors, disease, and nutrition for 45 years. So give me your technical facts on cancer research, and I'll investigate your THEORIES.

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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 06:59 AM
No, I have technical facts. This is a board on chemtrails, idiot. If you can't counter my technical facts against chemtrails, then what does it say about the chemtrail theory?
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halva
Senior Member
Greece 382 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 07:48 AM
Common Sense, the more fanatically you argue that Chemtrails don't exist, the harder it is going to be for you to make the transition to the next stance prescribed for you by your political beliefs, i.e. that even though chemtrails exist, it doesn't matter (or, they are for our own good, or something such). For the sake of your own sanity, you should start taking this into consideration. 
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 02:39 PM
So now you dare to presume about my political beliefs. Amazing!Answer my technical facts, then you can regain credibility regarding chemtrails. 
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 02:44 PM
So now you dare to presume about my political beliefs. Amazing!Answer my technical facts, then you can regain credibility regarding chemtrails. 
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 02-02-2003 03:07 PM
Common Sense, The foam from your mouth is hitting us clear across the Atlantic. Why don't you go back and read over your details of the Boar War some more?
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 04:33 PM
So instead of answering my points you just personally attack me. Very telling.
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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules

Jersey City 1881 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 02-02-2003 05:12 PM
Common Sense says"No, I have technical facts. This is a board on chemtrails, idiot." Of course, CS NEVER attacks anyone. Poor defenseless baby. 
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Common_Sense
Debunker
UK 68 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 05:16 PM
Now you're trying to defame my character.........while still not responding to any technical facts!
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA 1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-02-2003 05:19 PM
Hey common which thread are you talking about with all your facts?
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