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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-26-2002 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.42/operation911.html



Operation 911
Did Military Software Control the "Hijacked" Planes?
by Carol A. Valentine
October 6, 2001—There were no "suicide" hijackers aboard those jets on September 11. Advanced robotics technology, not the hijackers, was controlling the jets when they crashed. Fantastic? Before I explain, read about the history-making robot jet plane.

Global Hawk: Here You Have It . . .
The Northrop Grumman Global Hawk is a robotized American military jet that has a wingspan of a Boeing 737. The excerpts below were taken from an article entitled: "Robot plane flies Pacific unmanned," which appeared in the April 24, 2001 edition of Britain's International Television News:

"'The aircraft essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing, and even taxiing off the runway,' according to the Global Hawk's Australian manager Rod Smith.

"A robot plane has made aviation history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the Pacific Ocean.

itz back ! http://www.stormtronic.co.uk/9-11/no-hijackers.htm

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-26-2002 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.rense.com/general15/remotecontrol.htm
floating against a serine motief made from
pure sin
there is no man in the "plane"
pure as the driven SF6
protectorate of the thing
that is driveing us all wild
yet none of us can think straight anymore



imagine if you can a world where the sly deceptor planes
meet eachother in a mis mass of unloveing ab liss
and kiss and make up after realizeing their great mistake
they hurry to make X's in the sky
as they hot foot it back to the base
to refill the swill to which they are addicted

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bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-26-2002 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ever as the big brother "looks in upon you"
and listens in upon your conversationz
he is makEing himself out to be bad~~~
the love in your heart asends
and paints the white swastiga in the sky with

the ever unfolding release before itz In~geniouse sin of modern spin
the matterial word is being taken away
by a force that thrives on hatred
will you help push itz weight
or turn away singing this tune?

and take anoughther path



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posted 03-26-2002 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mark I loved your post and YES I am taking another path. Would you PLEASE tell me where to get interesting colorful graphics and music too WOW !!! Is it software you buy ??? I have looked around and asked around, to no avail. Little things that make life a little more fun. Thanks Jeanie

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-26-2002 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanie, the music can be found through a web search for the artist you are looking to hear and the word MIDI is included
This will return a bunch of sites with music files
There are also image sites "GIFS" to be found through "search engines" (try image plus gifs)
I don't know about any software that does this~ someone may have done this ~ but we can do it ourselves

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-26-2002 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/articles/enron.html
Enron is a scandal so enormous that it's hard to wrap your mind around it.
By Ron Callari
(a few choise bit out of 15 pages)
Here's a tip for congressional investigators and federal prosecutors: Start by looking at the India deal. Closely.


Enron had a $3 billion investment in the Dabhol power plant, near Bombay on India's west coast. The project began in 1992, and the liquefied natural gas-powered plant was supposed to supply energy-hungry India with about one-fifth of its energy needs by 1997. It was one of Enron's largest development projects ever (and the single largest direct foreign investment in India's history). The company owned 65 percent of Dabhol; the other partners were Bechtel, General Electric and State Electricity Board.

Enter Dick Cheney
Scarcely a month after Bush moved into the White House, Vice President Cheney had his first secret meeting with Ken Lay and other Enron executives on Feb. 22, 2001. Other meetings followed on March 7 and April 17. It is the details of these meetings that the Bush administration is seeking to keep private.

It's clear Cheney had his own conflicts of interest with Enron. A chief benefactor in the Trans-Caspian pipeline deal would have been Halliburton, the huge oil pipeline construction firm which was previously headed by Cheney. After Cheney's selection as Bush's vice presidential candidate, Halliburton also contributed a huge amount of cash into the Bush-Cheney campaign coffers.

According to the authors, the Bush administration attempted to get the Taliban on board and believed they could depend upon the regime to stabilize the country while the pipeline construction was under way. Bush had already indirectly given the Taliban $43 million for their supposed efforts to stamp out opium-poppy cultivation. Was this an award--or a bribe? The circumstances make this a valid question.
(remember that the "patriot act make it illeagal to give money to regiems that support terrorist organization this IRS april 15th)

However, from all records, relationships became strained. The Taliban had demanded that the United States should also reconstruct Afghanistan's infrastructure and that the pipeline be open for local consumption. Instead, the United States wanted a closed pipeline pumping gas for export only and was not interested in helping to rebuild the country.

In turn, the United States threatened the Taliban during the negotiations. The directive of "we'll either carpet you in gold or carpet you in bombs" was bantered about in the press to underscore the emerging willfulness of the United States.

In late August, Lay appeared to threaten India in an article in the London Financial Times. We expect full price for the plant, he warned; if they received anything less, there could be backlash: "There are laws that could prevent the U.S. government from providing any aid or assistance to India going forward if, in fact, they expropriate property of U.S. companies," he said. When Indian officials called these statements "strong arm tactics," an Enron statement claimed Lay "was merely referring to U.S. laws." Again Lay appeared to threaten India in a Sept. 14 letter to the Prime Minister, insisting that the $2.3 billion price was reasonable because they had a "legal claim" of up to $5 billion.

The end came in December 2001, as Enron fired the 300 remaining workers at the plant. Enron also filed a $200 million claim with the U.S. government's Overseas Private Investment Corporation, an U.S. taxpayer-funded insurance fund for American companies abroad, in an attempt to recoup losses from the Dabhol Power Corporation.

It is already known that Cheney accepted seven out of eight national energy policy recommendations made by Lay; so what are they so damned determined to keep secret? What could be more incriminating than that?

On Feb. 22, the General Accounting Office sued Cheney, who has stated that the White House will go to court to fight the release of the documents. (However, John W. Dean, former Nixon staffer and Watergate witness is quick to point out that executive privilege is unique to the president, not the vice president.) With recent discovery that a highest-level "Dabhol Working Group" was set up in the Bush administration, it appears that there is much more to be uncovered.

But if the White House, Enron, and Dabhol timelines are combined, curious details appear. On Nov. 6, 2001, a top official in the Bush administration tells India that a payoff to Enron had risen "to the highest levels of the United States government." Five days earlier, Bush had signed Executive Order 13233, which limits public access to papers of all presidents since 1980--including George W. Bush.

(the timelines are here spelled out in the text)(one of them is)

1996: "Mack" McLarty, who later became a paid Enron director, spoke with Ken Lay on several occasions about the plant. Four days before India granted approval for Enron's project, the Houston-based firm contributed $100,000 to the Democratic Party.

(several others are)

Feb. 12, 1998: Testimony of John J. Maresca, vice-president, international relations, Unocal Corporation, was heard by the House Committee on International Relations and the Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific regarding "a proposed extension [of the proposed Trans-Caspian pipeline] would link with the SUI pipeline system, moving gas to near New Delhi, where it would connect with the existing HBJ pipeline..."

June 23, 1998: In a speech to the "Collateral Damage Conference" of the Cato Institute, Cheney said, "The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would not normally choose to go. But, we go where the business is."

Aug. 20, 1998: U.S. Tomahawk cruise missiles target Kandahar, Afghanistan and sites believed to be Osama bin Laden's training camps. Shortly after, the UN imposes sanctions on Afghanistan that isolate the nation.

Early 2001: Vice President Cheney held several secret meetings with top Enron officials, including its Chairman Kenneth Lay. These meetings were presumably part of Cheney's non-public Energy Task Force sessions. A number of Enron stockholders, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Trade Representative Robert Zoellick, became officials in the Bush administration. In addition, Thomas White, a former Vice Chairman of Enron and a multimillionaire in Enron stock, currently serves as the Secretary of the Army.

March, 2001: Laila Helms, the part Afghan niece of the former CIA director and former U.S. ambassador to Tehran, Richard Helms, is described as the Mata-Hari of U.S.-Taliban negotiations. Ms. Helms brought Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi, an adviser to Mullah Omar, to Washington after the Taliban had destroyed the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan. Hashimi met the directorate of Central Intelligence at the CIA and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department.

May 17, 2001: The United States indirectly gives $43 million to Afghanistan's Taliban government

Aug. 2, 2001: The last meeting between United States and Taliban representatives took place five weeks before the attacks on New York and Washington, the analysts maintain. On that occasion, Christina Rocca met the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan in Islamabad.

Aug. 27, 2001: Kenneth Lay wrote another e-mail to his employee/stockholders extolling the value of an employee stock option program, describing a "significantly higher price" the stock would bring in the near future.

Nov. 1, 2001: Bush signed Executive Order 13233 which limits public access to papers of all presidents since 1980--including George W. Bush. Another memo written this day states that talking points for Bush were prepared for his meeting with the India Prime Minister. Bush did not discuss Enron during the meeting.

Dec. 27, 2001: Bush administration repealed a Clinton-era rule that prevents the government from awarding federal contracts to businesses that have broken environmental, labor, tax, civil rights or other laws

Jan. 17, 2002: Enron reportedly filed an approximately $200 million claim with the U.S. government's Overseas Private Investment Corporation in an attempt to recoup losses from the Dabhol Power Corporation.

Feb. 20, 2002: OPIC reveals that it gave Enron $554 mllion in loans and $204 million in insurance. Congress also learns the Export-Import Bank loaned $675 million o Enron and associated companies.

Feb. 22, 2002: The GAO sues Cheney for refusing to reveal details of his meetings with Enron officials. It is the first time that the agency has sued a member of the executive branch of government.


elsewhere administrators were more transfibian in reponce
"''Generally, we're pleased to provide these thousands of pages of documents,'' White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said. ''We're committed to providing this information in accordance to the law.'' As for the blanked-out correspondence, Stanzel said the White House had ''applied consistent and well-established standards'' in deciding which papers to release.

Among the redacted documents were seemingly benign e-mails between employees at various agencies, as well as entire blank pages that provided no explanation of what material was missing. Hundreds of e-mails were also released without the relevant document attachments, some with titles such as ''proposed energy policy language'' and ''draft energy plan.''




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bin Rydin


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posted 03-26-2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lets just review that all the anti AMERICAN FREEDOM moves being made
by the powers that stink
dont have anything to do with a few
small non humans prancing around in stuffed shirts bellowing every 10 minute
how patriotik ~ you should be

after you buy my bridge over the sahara
let me sew you to sheet
(after you stand in line awhile)
getting wandz shoved up where
the fear factor lives

oppz ~ this America ~ land of the free
where people leave others alone
and the government only is there
to protect

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-28-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26960
State surveillance: Abolishing freedoms


By Tal Brooke & Lee Penn
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com


Before Sept. 11, 2001, there were two long-established trends in the U.S. and Western Europe: movement toward more powerful government – involving more control over individual lives – and movement toward radical scientific experiments in which man tries to act as Creator – all of which is explored in "One World."

Since then, we have moved quickly toward establishing a new regime with the police powers of "1984," combined with the weird science of "Brave New World" – actions that would never have been accepted before the attack on the World Trade Center now pass without a murmur. By stealth, they have now been redefined as aspects of "patriotism."

Unlike previous wars against nations which had a definite end, victory or defeat, the war against terror is a global war against a vaguely-defined foe, with no end in sight. Government officials themselves expect the war to last for years – and as long as the war lasts, the restrictions on liberty will remain.

In October, Congress voted 98 to 1 for the Patriot Act,
ExCuSe Me BuT
congress is both the house and senate
(they don't have to eat in the same rooom)
but there are 2 senators per state ans a variable number of representatives based upon the population of each state
never forget this

which gives the government broader power to monitor e-mail, detain immigrants, listen to phone calls, monitor financial transactions, and secretly gather other data on suspects, who can be defined at whim. National ID cards had been unthinkable for the U.S. before 9-11.

Immediately after the attack, members of Congress, security experts, and high-tech executives (including Larry Ellison, head of Oracle, a firm that has been pushing to build the new national ID database) called for a high-tech national ID card. They were joined by Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz, who also favors judicial issue of torture warrants for terror suspects.

Bush, himself, does not support national IDs yet, and implementation of a new federal system would take years. However, the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators is planning to create high-tech drivers licenses with embedded chips, bar codes, and biometric ID of users (such as digital fingerprint images). The card would link to driver license databases in all states. Then there is video surveillance.

Before 9-11, there was heated controversy over video monitoring of public areas. Since then, airports have lined up to test and install these systems, a foreshadowing of the ubiquitous telescreens that watch everyone outdoors and indoors in Orwell's novel 1984.

Federal officials are making a plan to shut down the entire cell phone network – which played a critical role on the day of the attack – to anyone who is not a government official, in the event of an emergency. The reason: to keep the airwaves free for response to the crisis. (The rule could also ensure that ordinary citizens are unable to communicate with each other during a crisis – measures similar to what Poland instituted in 1981 when they declared martial law and broke the Solidarity union.)

In January, the Democratic Party-affiliated Progressive Policy Institute called for yet more police power: addition of "smart chips" to drivers licenses, with inclusion of digitized fingerprints, increased digital surveillance of computer users, e-mail, use of "spyware" to capture computer keystrokes, and video monitoring of public areas with use of face-recognition software to spot those who are on government lists. All of this, of course, is to be limited by "proper warrants and other controls."

As goes the federal government, so go the states. Maryland's governor and the leaders of the state House and Senate leaders have proposed new laws that would expand the governor's emergency powers, allow wider use of wiretaps on criminal suspects, suppress hitherto-public records about security plans, and quarantine people during a biological or chemical attack. Gov. Glendening said that the nine new laws "do not infringe on civil liberties."

Tennessee legislators have proposed a law that would give the governor and health authorities "sweeping new emergency powers to quarantine and test people," ban guns, and "destroy or commandeer private property," in the event of a health emergency. For a health emergency to be declared, there must be an imminent threat of widespread, serious illness due to bio-terrorism, the emergence of a new or previously-controlled microbe or toxin, attack by chemical or nuclear weapons, or natural disaster. Since this is a model bill, drafted by the Georgetown University Center for Law and the Public Health, it may soon be considered in all states. The "natural disaster" loophole is large enough to drive a boxcar of prisoners through.

All of this belies Bush's eulogies to freedom in his Jan. 29, 2002, State of the Union address: "No people on Earth yearn to be oppressed, or aspire to servitude, or eagerly await the midnight knock of the secret police. America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity: the rule of law, limits on the power of the state, respect for women, private property, free speech, equal justice and religious tolerance."

Ironically, as the president praises freedom, under a cloak of patriotic flag waving, whether the Super Bowl or the Winter Olympics, rights are being methodically confiscated at a rate that was once unthinkable. It is pure stealth.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tal Brooke is the president of SCP, Inc., a Berkeley research group, and has authored nine books of which his most recent is "One World." His work has been recognized in Marquis Who's Who in the World and Who's Who in America. Tal is a graduate of the University of Virginia and Princeton.

Lee Penn, a convert out of atheistic Marxism, attended Harvard university, was inducted into Phi Beta Kappa in 1974 and graduated cum laude 1976. Lee works in health care information systems and financial analysis.

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posted 03-28-2002 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and rock star niel young wrote a song around it http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/america/usa/2002/032802a.html

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-28-2002 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power.
We have guided missiles and misguided men.
A nation that continues year after year
to spend more money on military defense
than on programs of social uplift
is approaching spiritual doom."
~~Martin Luther King, Jr.

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bin Rydin


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posted 03-29-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a joke for all you "earth molesters" out there
from http://www.davidicke.com/icke/thoughts/fishing.html
Something to think about.

A boat docked in a tiny Mexican village.

An American tourist complimented the Mexican fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took him to catch them.

"Not very long," answered the Mexican.

"But then, why didn't you stay out longer and catch more?" asked the American.

The Mexican explained that his small catch wassufficient to meet his needs and those of his family.

The American asked, "But what do you do with all your time?"

"I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, and take a siesta with my wife. In the evenings, I go into the village to see my friends, have a few drinks, play the guitar, and sing a few songs...I have a full life."

The American interrupted, "I have an MBA from Harvard and I can help you!

You should start by fishing longer every day. You can then sell the extra fish you catch. With the extra revenue, you can buy a bigger boat. With the extra money the larger boat will bring, you can buy a second one and a third one and so on until you have an entire fleet of trawlers.

Instead of selling your fish to a middle man, you can negotiate directly with the processing plants and maybe even open your own plant."

"You can then leave this little village and move to Mexico City, Los Angeles, or even New York City! From there you can direct your huge enterprise."

"How long would that take?" asked the Mexican.

"Twenty, perhaps twenty-five years," replied the American. "And after that?"

"Afterwards? That's when it gets really interesting," answered the American, laughing. "When your business gets really big, you can start selling stock and make millions!"

"Millions? Really? And after that?"

"After that -- and this is the best part -- you'll be able to retire, live in a tiny village near the coast, sleep late, catch a few fish, take a siesta, and spend your evenings drinking and enjoying your friends!"

THE TIDE HAS TURNED. AND IT AIN'T TURNING BACK.


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posted 03-30-2002 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post mark! Thanks.

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bin Rydin


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OK Lulu~ here are some "old" jokes

PERKS OF BEING OVER 50

1. Kidnappers are not very interested in you.

2. In a hostage situation you are likely to be released first.

3. No one expects you to run into a burning building.

4. People call at 9 PM and ask, "Did I wake you?"

5. People no longer view you as a hypochondriac.

6. There is nothing left to learn the hard way.

7. Things you buy now won't wear out.

8. You can eat dinner at 4 P.M.

9. You can live without sex but not without glasses.

10. You enjoy hearing about other peoples operations.

11. You get into heated arguments about pension plans.

12. You have a party and the neighbors don't even realize it.

13. You no longer think of speed limits as a challenge.

14. You quit trying to hold your stomach in, no matter who walks into the room.

15. You sing along with elevator music.

16. Your eyes won't get much worse.

17. Your investment in health insurance is finally beginning to pay off.

18. Your joints are more accurate meteorologists than the national weather service.

19. Your secrets are safe with your friends because they can't remember them either.

20. Your supply of brain cells is finally down to manageable size.

21. You can't remember who sent you this list.

SIGNS OF MENOPAUSE

1. You sell your home heating system at a yard sale.

2. Your husband jokes that instead of buying a wood stove, he is using you to heat the family room this winter. Rather than just saying you are not amused, you shoot him.

3. You have to write post-it notes with your kids' names on them.

4. The Phenobarbital dose that wiped out the Heaven's Gate Cult gives you four hours of decent rest.

5. You change your underwear after every sneeze.

6. You're on so much estrogen that you take your Brownie troop on a field trip to Chippendales.

OLD IS WHEN:

1. Your sweetie says, "Let's go upstairs and make love," and you answer, “Pick one, I can't do both!"

2. Your friends compliment you on your new alligator shoes and you're barefoot.

3. A sexy babe catches your fancy and your pacemaker opens the garage door.

4. Going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of your face.

5. You don't care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don't have to go along.

6. You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by the police.

7. "Getting a little action" means I don't need to eat any fiber today.

8. "Getting lucky" means you find your car in the parking lot.

9. An "all-nighter" means not getting up to pee.


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posted 04-01-2002 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow...do I have a lot to look forward to!

1. Your sweetie says, "Let's go upstairs and make love," and you answer, “Pick one, I can't do both!"

Can't stop laughting Mark! Too funny

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I always thought
the stairway was
interesting

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posted 04-01-2002 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rockefeller Letter to U.N. General Assembly
re: NWO Immediate Agenda

From: Rockefeller Global Communications
To: GAPresident@un.org
Cc: Rockefeller Global Communications
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:05 AM

To The General Assembly,

The time of the end is upon us. Like it or hate it, it's the destiny we must all face. On September 11, 2001 the world was witness to the beginning of the end. What we saw and experienced will be nothing compared to the calamity that is to soon transpire. It is sad that so many lives have been lost and yet so many more will be taken - but these things will continue to happen as this old system begins to collapse. No human government in existence now or since the ancient times have been able to sustain a perfect order. Every government has failed and will fail.

They can not protect you. They can not give you a place where people are truly free, where your neighbours are your family and foreigners are your friends. No human government today can or will ever be able to achieve this. That is why the Agenda was set. It has been referred to over time as Armageddon. But be not fearful. It will not be a nuclear holocaust or some stray asteroid from the heavens that will level our civilization. In fact it's not the planet that will suffer and be swept away.

the rest http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/global/040102a.html

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one can only hope our leaders one day
find GOD http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1396
then the earth might
address

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little did we ever know when
it started before we had tyme to see
everything was lovely before'

I haD to See

but now that the grid has made apparent overhead
and 2+2 equals infinity

i wright in orange like it matters at all
calling to the winged to fly

who put all those things in your head
shake them out and live
start to breath
respirate whatever the danger

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opps http://www.conspiracycon.com/

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HeY LeFt CoasTerZ
i tosted GoldRush at the last one
letz tip a few on meMorial Day

Col. Bo Gritz: Col. Bo Gritz, the most decorated Green Beret Commander, was bred for the "inside," yet defied George Bush and remained true to his oath - "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." He is a documented hero, a consummate intelligence operative and has received national acclaim.
Presentation: Removing The Mask of Government Col. Gritz will take you on a rocketing ride behind the veil of "National Security" as an agent in the most secret of intelligence activity. Visit the world's most heinous drug criminals and learn exactly who and why, at the current highest levels of leadership, abandoned U.S. Prisoners of War and overdosed America. Twenty-two times he intervened on behalf of citizens facing impossible odds, including the Weaver family at Ruby Ridge. Col. Gritz knows Islam and will tell you about 9-11 and the real threat - a government which keeps secrets not from our enemies, but from you. Join him for the most riveting irrefutable presentation about safeguarding our heritage and our freedom. www.bogritz.com

Dr. Nick Begich: Well known in Alaska for his political activities and heritage, Dr. Nick Begich has been researching and disseminating science and political education for many years. In addition to publishing and writing many articles, he is the co-author of "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" and "Earth Rising."
Presentation: Revolution or Destruction? Technologies of the 21st Century Nick will present a shocking expose on advanced technology, its impact on humanity, as well as the basis of freedom, dignity, sovereignty and self-determination. With the help of extensive documentation he will cover non-lethal weapons, mind control, weather control, freedom infringements and more, along with updates on H.A.A.R.P. and it's effects on the environment. He will conclude with potential solutions to these challenges with an emphasis on a reach towards higher purposes. www.earthpulse.com
Norio Hayakawa: Former director of the Civilian Intelligence Nework, a Los Angeles-based network of civilian researchers and intelligence gatherers who evaluate pertinent information on the government's Deep Black Projects. The network's emphasis for the last 10 years has been focused on the monitoring of developments at Groom Lake complexes (a.k.a. Area 51) in Nevada. The CIN has organized the People's Rally at Area 51 for the last 3 years to bring about the issues relevant to the grievances of the families of former workers at the base.
Presentation: Area 51 - Emerging Technologies for Global Governance For years the "shadow government" has concocted "cover stories" about Area 51. As a result this secretive "air base" is now often ludicrously associated with "UFOs" and "aliens." In reality it is a leading-edge testing complex for high tech weaponry. Is there a globalist wing within our government misleading us with "alien" fairy-tales and, if so, why have they been so successful? Furthermore, the Air Force has benefited from a false rumor that the base has been closed with operations occurring elsewhere. On the contrary, it is still active and expanding. What is the origin of this rumor and what is being developed there? Are the global elitists creating technologies to "engineer" a series of fearful events in the near future like 9/11 to bring about Global Governance? Norio will answer these questions and more.www.groom51s4.com
Ted L. Gunderson: Professional Experience: 1979-Present Ted L. Gunderson & Associates: Founder, owner and operator of this international security, consulting and investigation firm. 1981-1982 California Narcotics Authority - Consultant appointed by Gov. Jerry Brown. 1951-1979 Federal Bureau Of Investigation. (1977-79) Sr. Special Agent-in Charge-Los Angeles, CA (1973-77) Special Agent-in Charge-Memphis, TN and Dallas, TX. (1973) Chief Inspector (1965-73) Asst. Special Agent-in Charge-New Haven, CT & Philadelphia, PA (1960-65) Special Agent Supervisor, FBI Headquarters-Washington, DC (1951-60) Special Agent. At the time of his retirement, Ted had over 700 persons under his command and operated a $22 million budget. PUBLICATIONS: "How to Locate Anyone Anywhere without Leaving Home" (1989) EDUCATION: Bachelor of Science Degree, University of Nebraska AWARDS: Numerous distinguished awards for excellence in college, law enforcement, including "Officer of the year" in Los Angeles, CA
Presentation: Satanic Cults, CIA Kidnapping, Corrupted U.S. Intelligence Agencies & the Controlled Media The Satanic Cult movement has infiltrated virtually every level of society, involving many so called respectable businessmen, lawyers, doctors, prosecutors, judges and politicians as high as the White House. The CIA, using the covert name "THE FINDERS," has been involved in an international child kidnapping ring since the early 1960's. Furthermore, our government's anti-terrorism campaign is designed to destroy many of our rights and freedoms. The FBI not only knew about the 1993 WTC bombing in advance, but furnished the bomb's ingredients. At least eleven other individuals were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing. Moreover, U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks as early as 1995 and the Twin Towers were probably imploded. This conspiracy has been covered up by the main stream media, controlled since 1915. Don't miss these stunning revelations by this former FBI agent! www.newsmakingnews.com
Anthony J. Hilder: As a talk show host, investigative journalist and war correspondent, Anthony J. Hilder has done approximately 17,000 interviews over the past 30 years. Hilder is the author of Warlords of Washington, Illuminazi 9-11, Alien 51 and The New World Odor: he is also the producer of many documentaries, including REICHSTAG '95. His goal is to "incite a Revelation to avoid a Revolution" and he is opposed to the U.N., Big "Brotherment" and the New World Order.
Presentation: Illuminazi 9-11 (The Creation of World War III) With evidence that the Bush administration was complicit in the largest single atrocity in U.S. history Anthony J. Hilder will prove that the WTC was sacrificed for World Government and that Bush himself had prior knowledge just as Franklin Roosevelt did prior to the Pearl Harbor attack. War has been declared upon the American people by the Evil-archy that controls our Congress, media and monetary system. We are witnessing the Nazi-ization of this nation. Only by exposing the creation of World War II can we prevent the creation of World War III. In Hilder's "no holds barred" lecture he will expose the high treason committed by the Bush administration and that we have more to fear from Osama Bin Bush than Osama Bin Laden. If you liked what Hitler did, you're going to love what Bush is doing! www.freeworldalliance.com
Walter Bowart: Walter Bowart is preeminent in the field of mind control research and he is the author of the international best-seller, "Operation Mind Control," which was first published in 1978 and updated twice. He is currently updating his original work for a CD ROM and is doing research for his next book.
Presentation: Big Secrets In Plain View Walter Bowart will present a detailed and unique outline of the timeline of the current human condition. Strap yourself in for a cerebral journey into some of the most fascinating topics of our time, our past and our future to come. Just some of the mind-blowing subjects he will cover are: schizophrenia as our next evolutionary stage; the end of civilization as we know it; telepathy and the coming transparency of all secrets; the end of language and intellectual property; the disassociative states of America; MK-Ultra and the GOD pill; why Buck Rogers came before the UFO; the Roswell crash and JFK's roll in MJ-12.
Small secrets are kept by government suppression of truth. Big secrets are kept by public incredulity. It is the unconscious societal behaviors of the last century, not declassified documents and eyewitness accounts, that are proof of the "celestrial" influences on our world, as well as the terminal nature of our civilization. Meanwhile, there are two cults of conspiracy fighting over what will be left behind after the collapse - the conspiracy against the future and the conspiracy towards the future, while the majority sleeps. www.azstarnet.com Walter will be interviewed on April 27th by Erskine, see below for details.
Eustace Mullins: Sixty years ago Eustace Mullins was a protégé of literary giant, Ezra Pound, who understood central banking and its relationship with world unrest. Since then he has authored many books on conspiracy, including "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" and "The World Order." He is currently a Council Member of the Committee to Restore the Constitution and has been a respected researcher for over fifty years.
Presentation: Money and the Conspiracy of Evil Today our acting president has promised to send American boys overseas for the rest of time to fight "terrorism," a broad term incorporating all who fail to endorse the conspiracy. To pull this off the manipulators keep us in unimportant jobs while stealing most of our earnings. They also control the government, the schools and the media. For these purposes the central bank is the only mechanism that works. Without the government granted license to print money the conspiracy would be no more of a threat to us than Bin Laden. Prepare yourself for an eye-opening lecture with Eustace Mullins. www.inreach.com
Eric Jon Phelps: Information to follow
Presentation: Vatican Assassins: The Ultimate Conspiracy Author Eric Jon Phelps will present an explosive, shocking, detailed lecture on the long-suppressed, diabolical history of the Society of Jesus, known as the Jesuit Order. Spanning 500 years it is a history of crime, conspiracy, Satanism and mass murder, including the assassination of many world leaders like Lincoln and Kennedy. You will learn that the Jesuit's General, "The Black Pope," is the most powerful man in the world as the One pulling the strings of the Vatican, the Pope and the world's intelligence communities with Jesuit directors in the CIA and FBI willing to commit any atrocity to further Jesuit world-wide goals. DO ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME? The great tides of history, rather than being spurred by the deeds of the brightest and the best of mankind, are actually the sewers of history, pulsating with the most disgusting and horrible motivations. Leaving no stone unturned, Brother Eric will expose the writhing maggots to public view in his monumental presentation. www.hiddenmysteries.com
Erskine is an entertainer not a journalist/reporter or someone with an agenda...
"Business talk radio at its best, we have live on air discussions every Sat night, psychic, assassins, area 51, stocks, business and more...." Erskine will provide entertainment at the Saturday night banquet with his Magical "Audience Mind Trip" PLUS Erskine will do his radio show LIVE! from the hotel from 10pm to 3am.Listen to Erskine's show online @ www.erskineonline.com Erskine will interview Brian Hall (CCII Executive Producer ) from 11:30 to midnight on Saturday, April 20th. Erskine will also interview Walter Bowart from 10 PM to 3 AM Saturday April 27th. Walter's entire show will be repeated on Sunday night. Bay Area residents tune in to KDIA San Francisco (1640AM) (all times pacific) For call letters in other areas go here
Brian William Hall - Executive Producer and Host:
THE WRATH OF "CON" - My Manifesto Destiny...by Brian Hall Upon being introduced to the subject of UFOs and government cover-ups seven years ago, Brian began avidly researching these and related topics himself. More recently the "Flower of Life" information played a major roll in his search for the "big picture." His exposure to the Zapruder film, which clearly documents that the driver of Kennedy's limo fired the fatal shot, is what ultimately convinced him that things are truly not what they seem on planet Earth. To help spread the word, he began co-writing articles on UFO's and conspiracies in the Berkeley Psychic Reader. He has also been a volunteer for the International UFO Congress, the Bay Area UFO Expo and other similar organizations. As his knowledge and participation increased, his concern grew exponentially. Conspiracies and hidden global agendas do affect our lives daily. Unfortunately, they are rarely or never reported in the "system." Even when they are reported, the spin cycle is set to full speed. This sobering reality has become a driving force in shifting Brian from passive researcher to coordinator of an annual event, which addresses these urgent issues. It is his hope that this conference will help to facilitate the sharing of suppressed knowledge with those who have a need to know...because we all have a need to know. Brian can be emailed at conspiracycon@earthlink.net Brian will be interviewed on Saturday, April 27th by Erskine, see above.
Robert Perala - Co-Host
Your co-host for the weekend is lecturer and author Robert Perala. Robert is author of the runaway best seller The Divine Blueprint, Roadmap for the New Millennium, and, his followup book - The Divine Architect - is due to be released in June of 2001. Robert's encounter with extraterrestrials at age 21 led him into 22 years of research in the study of UFOs, spirituality, metaphysics, personal growth and earth sciences. Robert has recently completed sold out tours across the US in 1999 and 2000 plus he has had appearances on Extra, The A&E Channel, and Strange Universe; In addition Robert has guested on over 180 radio shows including the world wide syndicated show Coast to Coast AM. In honor of his contribution to society, the American Biographical Institute bestowed on him their prestigious, Distinguished Leadership Award. With a large background in television and radio, Robert brings his charming and witty style to the First Annual Conspiracy Con. Order the Divine Architect & Divine Blueprint from Amazon.com. Visit Robert's website @ www.unitedlight.com
"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." -- President Woodrow Wilson
what you say cydonia
it well within the budget of agency
see you again
that is if"n you ain't drivin a rig
i know you will wanting to be cordin the whole show

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posted 04-06-2002 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those pesky "reality therorist" creeps
are at it again http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/conspiracy/chemtrails.html
durn rabbit

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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-06-2002 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
icke's no dummy....

Notice: David Icke, www.davidicke.com, David Icke E~Magazine, and/or the donor of this material may or may not agree with all the data or conclusions of this data. It is presented here 'as is' for your benefit and research

herbert...herbert...herbert

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1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-06-2002 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seeker, did you mean http://www.davidicke.net or http://www.DavidIcke.com ?

The dude certainly is good looking, so he must be telling the truth...

mark sky, as I've said over and over, I would feel a whole lot better about these stories if Deep Sky and the scientist from Wright-Pat would step forward and give us their names.

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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 04-06-2002 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good looking and courageous 3! He appeared naked on the cover of "I am Me, I am Free"...course the local library placed a little censorship sticker over his penis, and you know how I feel about censorship! I promptly removed said sticker before returning the book..lol.

Right now I'm reading Children of the Matrix. There's a few quotes in the book that made me think of the debunkers and chemtrails, one being...

"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self-evident.""
Schoepenhouer


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i would not know about davids willie

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.

And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

-- Julius Caesar

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