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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 03-13-2003 06:19 PM
   
I can tell the difference,when huge ploom's of "whatever the hell it is" come's flying out the back of these spray jet's,(so much you can't even see the plane),and shut's off/on off/on,marking the sky from horizon to horizon at different altitude's,and they continue doing this troughout the day,I call that CHEMTRAIL'S.I really like it when they do this RIGHT OVER YOUR FREAKING HEAD!! I live around a couple of airport's,i rarely see commercial jet's leave "Contrail's",and when i do most of them leave thin trail's that disappear quickly,if it's cold they hang out for an hour or two.It is nothing like a heavy "sprayday"!Go outside more please,or come to the bay area and get a gander at what blow's inland off the coast,it might change your point of veiw?
[Edited 5 times, lastly by emfx13 on 03-13-2003] 
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-13-2003 07:32 PM
Ok, Im going to be nice and point you, again, toward this website: www.airliners.net This website has over 319 THOUSAND photos of airliners. You would be hard pressed to find an airliner anywhere on earth that does not have a photo of it on Airliners.net. When there is an airliner crash or incident, CNN and every other major news source comes to Airliners.net to get photos to show on the air. There are also hundreds of CLOSEUP photos of airliners creating both big billowy contrails, and short lived dissapating contrails. If I were you I would spend ALOT of time on Airliners.net. They add 100 photos per day. That is alot of photos that could show what you guys are looking for. If you want to go directly to the contrail photos, just type "contrail" into the keyword field, set the search field to "remark", and thats it. If one of you guys finds, out of all 319,000 photos, one that shows an airliner with strange pipes, or chemicals coming out of someplace weird on the aircraft, then please link it here, and I will look at it. Also, they have many hundreds of photos showing military aircraft from air forces all over the globe. A wealth of info at your fingertips.
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 03-13-2003 08:51 PM
Find me several airports that will let me spend some time looking over the planes and I'll invite Mech and a few others to come with me.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jeanie on 03-13-2003]
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-13-2003 09:13 PM
Well, since you obviously cant personally go search the aircraft, I have given you the next best thing. 319 THOUSAND photos of almost every commerical airliner in existance. You can search for photos of almost every single structure on an airliner including the cabin, cockpit, baggage areas, and other internal components.Go wild.
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 12:09 AM
PHX Pilot kindly desist from this "you guys" crap as if you belong to some other species to other Americans. When the tables have finished turning as they have already started turning you are going to find out that you have absolutely nothing to distinguish you from, or to protect you from, your fellow citizens. I do not believe in your sincerity, I think few here do, and there must be some who know who you are. By defending the indefensible (if nothing else, the secrecy, and the lies, are indefensible) you become complicit in it.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-14-2003 12:45 AM
I certainly agree with you halva. This pilot, who is a student looking for a commercial ticket BTW, is not here to enlighten us, but rather to antagonize. This thread is a prime example. 'A few quick questions',then the usual routine of you guys and the rest of the debunker drivel.With a few minutes time looking over the site, all the information he or the rest of his ilk want us to provide is theirs.
Same crap, different day here at debunker central.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 03-14-2003]
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 03-14-2003 01:26 AM
Whooooo aChhh en lugie
from the wildlands project
front linz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 03-14-2003 10:20 AM
Pilot: Are the those 319 thousand photo's before or after the chemical apparatus has been installed ?
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CaptWalker
logic infuser
99 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 10:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jeanie:
Pilot: Are the those 319 thousand photo's before or after the chemical apparatus has been installed ?
I would have to say before, since none has been installed to date.
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 03-14-2003 04:16 PM
Capt. and Pilot:::If I never read a thing on internet or never read comments of others, I still would know from the depths of my being that something sinister was taking place in the skies above. When chem spewing planes are busy elsewere and I have only local commerical air craft it's a weight lifted. This crime continues to take place with impunity simply because it has the backing of the U.N; the U.S. govt; and the shadow elite. No cost is too great, if money runs short (which it won't) there's always the pockets of tax payers. Managed media, weather men included, keep the slumbering from waking up. But get this, we are not all in the catagory of uninformed and eventually it will be common knowledge, one day head's are going to roll.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 04:21 PM
Are the those 319 thousand photo's before or after the chemical apparatus has been installed ?Well the website has photographers (including myself) taking photos around the clock 24/7/365, and they add 100 to the site everyday. They have photos of 95% of the commerical aircraft that exist in the world. About 10 photos for most each and every airliner in the US, to boot. This is a HUGE database. If chemical sprayers exist, then you will most definatly find a photo of it on Airliners.net.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 04:29 PM
then the usual routine of "you guys"...PHX Pilot kindly desist from this "you guys" crap as if you belong to some other species to other Americans. Well what the hell else am I supposed to use to refer to you???? The word "you" is the opposite of the word "me", is it not? If I am referring to chemtrail believers then I will use term "you guys" because I am referring to YOU GUYS!!! NOT ME!! Why would I say "us" or "we"? "You" is the proper term for "people other than myself". If you cannot handle people using proper grammer, and freak out when people say "you guys", then you have a serious problem.
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X marks the spot
New Member
13 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 06:12 PM
Gee whiz, take a Valium, Jr.------------------
A deceived person does not know that they are deceived. If they did, then they wouldn't be deceived. A deceived person may be sincere, but sincerely wrong.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 06:41 PM
Ive been taking abuse from you guys for months now, and I am generally very good at keeping my temper down. But when I give you guys a link to a website that could very well hold the photo that could prove that chemtrails exist, the only thing you do in return is whine and cry that I said "you guys", then I have to release the frustration somehow. Thats all you ever seem to do. If someone comes up with somthing that could possibly destroy your entire theory, instead of a civilized rebuttle, you respond with something totally unneeded or immature. For Gods sake, take some time and look through ANY of the 319 thousand photos on that site, and just search for odd machinery anywhere on the airliners in the photos. Go look at the hundreds of closeup contrail photos they have. Look for the spots where the contrails are originating from on the aircraft. If you find any photos showing stuff being sprayed from spots other than the engines, post the link. Have ANY of you done this?Geez, quit whining and go do some research. I've given you a great resource. Use it.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 10:30 PM
I have recently finished one of my own research on long persistent contrails and
come to some conclusions, I'm finding it
or should I say now know without a shadow
of a doubt there can be miles long contrails.(within 2 to 3)
I've researched enough archives from sources
that had no opinion regaurding chemtrails.
My next phase is to see how long they actually last under the best conditions.
I still know infact there are spraying programs in existance, I find it suspicious
that the billions of ionized particles I
see on particular days of obvious spraying.
I'm finding the ionization at face level.
If anyone has some knowledge on the
ionization I'm talking about and knows
more about this I'm all ears.
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 10:46 PM
Pilot, one day the computer screen you address as "you guys" may give way to real "you guys". You had best prepare yourself for that day, mentally, and understand that there are other psyches behind the screen. If they turn out in reality to be all against you the way they are now in your imagination, you are in trouble.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 11:00 PM
Halva, dont worry, I am perfectly aware that there are actual people attached to the nicknames. And that is why I am so persistant on here. If they were just souless nicknames that believed contrails were an evil plot, I surely wouldnt care. But it is because there are actually people who believe this, that I try so hard to show you all are making incorrect assumptions.I assume that this need to correct people stems from my childhood. When I was in kindergarten (yes, kindergarten) I distinctly remember a military helicopter flying over the school. Immediatly after that, at least 4 teachers came to me and asked me what kind it was because they honestly wanted to know. I told them it was a CH-47 Chinook. I was right. That is where my aura of arrogance comes from I guess. I was such a "child wonder" when it came to aviation knowledge when I was in elementery school that everyone in school would come to me to verify what an adult had said about an airliner because they knew I was a good resource for the info. And, because of that, whenever someone tells someone else somthing that is obviously incorrect regarding airliners I get pretty worked up. I just cant stand people giving out bad info. That is why I keep coming back here. This is the ultimate site of misinformed people and information. When I read the "private" forum for people on here, and I read someone talking about an airliner doing somthing "strange" when it is obviously very normal, it drives me crazy because I cant do anything about it. I need to correct people, its the flaw in my nature. Whenever someone asks me what my biggest flaw is, I tell them that. Because it is. So, dont get all worked up when I correct you guys, its what I do Now look what you guys did, you made me ramble. Sorry about that.
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 03-15-2003 10:18 PM
It seems to me that you are a high-IQ imbecile. You aviation knowledge does not help you assimilate the fact that Edward Teller has prepared a study advocating the spraying of the entire planet with aluminium oxide and there is much evidence the proposal is being implemented.Do you deny the existence of Teller's study?
It is easy to find on Internet. You are in a better position to save others if you save yourself first.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-15-2003 10:41 PM
I am quite aware of Tellers ideas.Is this evidence that they are being put into place? No. and there is much evidence the proposal is being implemented. And this evidence would be.....
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X marks the spot
New Member
13 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 12:49 AM
This guy needs a spray jet to fly through his living room.
But... being the rocket scientist that he is, he STILL wouldn't notice.
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A deceived person does not know that they are deceived. If they did, then they wouldn't be deceived. A deceived person may be sincere, but sincerely wrong.
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kheyphos
New Member
Brasilia, Brazil
4 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 01:36 AM
PHX (FALSE) Pilot
Stop trying to ridicule a serious and intriguing phenomenon, as the CTs are! Or are you trying to ridicule all of us (not necessarily naïve believers, as you insist to take us for) but rather men that have witnessed such weird phenomenon on various occasions in the skies. Like many others, I don't know what kind of chemicals has been sprayed through out the World, or released by other means in the atmosphere; I don't know who are the people behind the scenes, but I do know for sure that something extremely serious is happening. Have you ever looked at the sky, Pilot? The weather, does it look the same as 10 years ago? And the clouds? Pretty like the ones of the last decade? The chemtrails, contrails, strange vortexes, colours etc., all the same boring and routine sky... Yeah?! If you are a freelancer and amateur debunker (against the odds), you have my total discredit. If you are a Pro debunker (again, against the odds), my apologies - you are doing your dirty job and being payed accordingly. But if you are what I am thinking you are, please, give us all a break! Want a scientific explanation? Go searching a real scientist that really and seriously study the phenomenon (and note: phenomenon, not a matter). We speculate, but we do not know for sure what it is. Who does? But you appear to deny the whole phenomenon, don't you, PHX? Got all the answers and explanations. Perhaps, swamp gas may be one of them!? LOL! Wake up to reality!
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 10:13 PM
PHX Pilot. What reason could there be for Teller's study not being implemented?I know he has put forward other plans that have not gone ahead. Creating harbours along the American coastline with the use of nuclear bombs, for example. But why do you think his proposals on global warming would not be implemented, if they are judged cheaper than the alternative of reducing dependency on fossil fuels?
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 11:07 PM
The difference with Tellers plan was to spray the outer edges of our atmosphere
and supposedly twice a year only.
The particles were meant to not reenter
the earth either.
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CaptWalker
logic infuser
99 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 03-17-2003 08:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jeanie:
Capt. and Pilot:::If I never read a thing on internet or never read comments of others, I still would know from the depths of my being that something sinister was taking place in the skies above.
So now it's not even presenting facts to make your case. You just "know" that CT's exist?! Wow, to be so all knowing must be a lot of pressure Jeanie.
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CaptWalker
logic infuser
99 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 03-17-2003 09:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
the fact that Edward Teller has prepared a study advocating the spraying of the entire planet with aluminium oxide and there is much evidence the proposal is being implemented. Do you deny the existence of Teller's study?
Halva, I wouldn't agree that there is "much" evidence, matter of fact is there any? ALL of the "evidence" that I've seen posted is easily put into question. There hasn't been a single piece of credible evidence yet.
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