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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-17-2003 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kheyphos:
The weather, does it look the same as 10 years ago? And the clouds? Pretty like the ones of the last decade?... Want a scientific explanation?

Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes! The weather this weekend was incredibly different than last weekend, therefore the government must have altered the weather sometime during the week.

It's like you're telling ghost stories sitting around a campfire. Somebody says "Did you hear that?" and suddenly everybody around the campfire starts hearing the owl, branches rubbing and creaking, a distant howl... those noises weren't there a minute ago... everybody's scared, except the guys who've been camping before.

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-17-2003 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
But why do you think his proposals on global warming would not be implemented, if they are judged cheaper than the alternative of reducing dependency on fossil fuels?

Not would not, have not. There is NO evidence that his plan has been implemented. The "plan" that you say has been implemented is far too large for there to be no credible evidence.

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 03-18-2003 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capt Walker sir does this mean that all those photographs I see of insane skies in the United States are fakes? I mean I don't know. All I have to go on from "real life" is what I see here in Greece, which is much less dramatic.

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-18-2003 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
Capt Walker sir does this mean that all those photographs I see of insane skies in the United States are fakes? I mean I don't know. All I have to go on from "real life" is what I see here in Greece, which is much less dramatic.

By insane you mean odd looking? Weather and clouds are odd looking. Like I said, just when you think you've seen it all...

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 03-18-2003 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This photograph to me looks like something nasty happening in some country like Iraq.

Is your message that you relish seeing death and destruction in the United States the same way that you relish seeing death and destruction in Iraq?

Anyway, you haven't answered the question. I asked you if you think all the photos of surrealistic and menacing skies in the US are faked?


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X marks the spot
New Member


13 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-18-2003 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X marks the spot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "Captain" refers to himself as a "Logic infuser". That is just a liars term for "Bullsh-t artist", or "Cover-up specialist".

He's the type of liar that would continue to tell you everything is just dandy, as they drag you and your family off to some "safe" haven. He would continue to to lie to your face as they dig a hole for your final resting place.

He's just another one of these DENY ...DENY... DENY... pukes.

His intent is NOT to change any of the convinced "chemmies" minds. He knows better. He knows, that THEY know. No, his intent is to disuade as many people visiting this site as possible from believing.

Look at the fierce determination of this "newbie". Look at what this idiot has already done in ONE month of posting.

Really, does any one have ANY doubt that this creature is just one of the persistant, L-O-N-G—T-I-M-E debunkers, simply using another name?

I don't.

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A deceived person does not know that they are deceived. If they did, then they wouldn't be deceived. A deceived person may be sincere, but sincerely wrong.

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Feelin Kocky
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Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-18-2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice CB pic, Capt.

F.K.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-18-2003 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This photograph to me looks like something nasty happening in some country like Iraq.
Is your message that you relish seeing death and destruction in the United States the same way that you relish seeing death and destruction in Iraq?

Good golly, you are insane. Its a photo of a Cumulonimbus cloud reflecting the sunset! This just goes to show how many of you lose sight of what is actually happening around you because of your blinding accusations of everything. Im a government agent, the cloud photo is a nuclear weapon that shows how CW wants to blow up the world, etc...

Contrails are Contrails, and that Cloud is a Cloud. Just pull the hatred lens from your eyes and see if you can understand that.

(Hey, Ive tried being nice and co-operative and it wasnt accepted or wanted by the folks here. Now your going to have to deal with me in a slightly less than wonderful manner.)

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halva
Senior Member

Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 03-18-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Threatening people via internet isn't a very smart thing to do.

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-19-2003 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
Threatening people via internet isn't a very smart thing to do.


Yes halva, from PHXPilot to BJM to Captwalker to George Bush to Hussein. The Cro-Magnons have to resort to threats, since their logic is flawed and they can't convince anyone of their far-right ideas, save themselves. They have to point guns at us to make us think like they do.

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halva
Senior Member

Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 03-19-2003 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately "far-right" doesn't help very much because there are far-right ideas on both sides of the chemtrails argument. At the moment I have someone called Jay Reynolds trying to persuade me that William Thomas is a liar and/or fantasist. Where does one start?

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-19-2003 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
Unfortunately "far-right" doesn't help very much because there are far-right ideas on both sides of the chemtrails argument. At the moment I have someone called Jay Reynolds trying to persuade me that William Thomas is a liar and/or fantasist. Where does one start?


Start by realizing who these people are. Jay Reynolds and Just a Thought are probably compiling personality profiles on all of the dissenters on this board. Of course, we are counter compiling them, and know who they are. They sneak and hide in Rumpus Room area. Typical. Afraid of the Light. Like the Vampires they are.


When I say FAR right I mean just RADICAL, not conservative. There are conservatives on this board who think Bush is an idiot and think chemtrails exist. I run into RADICALS on the left also.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-19-2003 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Threatening people via internet isn't a very smart thing to do.

Where did I threaten anyone? I dont remember typing "I am going to kill you all in your sleep". Maybe I did and the government just erased it.

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 03-19-2003 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pilot, your image is progressively deterioriating. Initially I had you for some professional, with a brain, and well-informed.

But finally you are coming over more and more as an idle adolescent.

What you wrote was: "Hey, Ive tried being nice and co-operative and it wasnt accepted or wanted by the folks here. Now your going to have to deal with me in a slightly less than wonderful manner.)"

The implication is that your interventions will become more effective through your being "aggressive".

At some point I am going to start ignoring you.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-19-2003 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pilot, your image is progressively deterioriating. Initially I had you for some professional, with a brain, and well-informed.

And I tried hard to keep that image. But all you guys did was cuss at me, call me a nazi, completely ignore anything I brought forward, cuss at me some more, whine, cuss some more. After a while I lose the urge to look professional to you guys. It wont cause you to look at anything any different. I brought professional, techinical info forward many times, and what was the response? "spare us your technical bull****" Well fine then. I get sick of your constant crap. But you guys keep saying you "want to find the truth" so I give you the other side of the coin, but you just kick me in the crotch again, and again, and again. After a month of that, I start to deteriorate. Its hard to stay professional and respectful when the people you are discussing it with cant even keep themselves together.

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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE

heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-19-2003 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not that you don't try to chase the truth, as you call it. You constantly insist others are wrong and your completely right which, to be honest, some are tired of. I know I've been less than nice towards you at times but I don't resent you. I think you're just someone who isn't convinced and yet, has an obsession. I have changed my stance recently after educating myself more about jets and contrails, and can tell you it's great knowing that every plane isn't dumping but I've seen other tactics that till my grave I will swear I witnessed a spray operation, actually quite a few, I will say that your more pleasant to speak with than others.

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-19-2003 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appretiate your input PHXPilot, and hope you will continue to post your thoughts here.

>>you guys<<

There you go again

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Lulu on 03-19-2003]

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-19-2003 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You constantly insist others are wrong and your completely right which, to be honest, some are tired of.

Im trying to take the high road now, but I cant let this one slip by. Please forgive me. This is one of the most hypocritical statements I have ever heard or read. You mean to tell me that everyone else on this board DOESNT insist others are wrong and they are completely right??? This is one of the staples of the chemmie community! How can you say this when, whenever I bring up a hole in your theories you come back with "you are ignorant", "you are stupid" "Whats wrong with you, you F***** Nazi." "How can you be so stupid". Yeah, im the one insisting im right.

Please forgive that rant, but I couldnt let it go. Honestly sorry, but I had to get it off my chest.

I think you're just someone who isn't convinced and yet, has an obsession. Well, I find it hard to be convinced of somthing that is so weakly supported. I dont buy into things just for the hell of it. If someone says "they are spraying" I dont reply with "by-golly your right. They must be spraying because people say they are". I was told they were spraying, but I went and did research. And I cant find any reason to believe they are spraying. There are too many holes.

I have changed my stance recently after educating myself more about jets and contrails, and can tell you it's great knowing that every plane isn't dumping

Great to hear. Thats what I came here to do.

but I've seen other tactics that till my grave I will swear I witnessed a spray operation, actually quite a few

Well, thats somthing that only you can decide for yourself. After you do all the research you possibly can, then you will have to decide whether it truly is a spray op. I cant help you there.

I will say that your more pleasant to speak with than others.

Well, thats what I hope to leave you with, but sometimes its hard to keep my posture.

Again, sorry about the first rant.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-19-2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>you guys<<

There you go again

lol, Lulu, I cant help it. When I need to speak to all chemtrail believers I cant keep saying "all chemtrail believers". Its too long. So I say You Guys. I dont mean it in a deragatory way, its just plural for "you". Thats all.

I mean, I call my friends "you guys" all the time. Example: *laughing* You guys are wacky"

I dont mean anything by it.

Which should I say?
1) You guys are wacky
or
2) You, who are not me but seperate individuals, are wacky

See? #1 is easier.

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-20-2003 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about you girls are wacky just to be gender friendly?

>>You mean to tell me that everyone else on this board DOESNT insist others are wrong and they are completely right???<<

Not me Pilot, I only insist that Larry Lawson is wrong...

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-20-2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This photograph to me looks like something nasty happening in some country like Iraq. Is your message that you relish seeing death and destruction in the United States the same way that you relish seeing death and destruction in Iraq?

Uh, no. This is a photo of a cloud, it's actually rather beautiful and has nothing to do with destruction. I feel bad that when you see a photo like that the first thing you think of is something evil. How sad for you.

Anyway, you haven't answered the question. I asked you if you think all the photos of surrealistic and menacing skies in the US are faked?

Forgive me, I thought I did. My point of posting the picture was to show you that nature is incredible and sometimes surrealistic. I think that photos can be faked, but the ones that I think you are referring to are probably very real. Strange contrail patterns, ice rainbows around the sun or moon, ripples of high level clouds... I've seen them all for many years.

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-20-2003 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by X marks the spot:
He's the type of liar... He's just another one of these DENY ...DENY... DENY... pukes... his intent is NOT to change any of the convinced "chemmies" minds. He knows better. He knows, that THEY know.... Really, does any one have ANY doubt that this creature is just one of the persistant, L-O-N-G—T-I-M-E debunkers, simply using another name?

I'm a "liar" for not believing in CT's? What kind of case can you make for that?

It's not that I think CT believers "know" what's going on, I think that many CT believers are so far embedded in the hatred of everything that goes on in this country there's no hope for them.

As far as being a long time debunker, think what you want, but I've only been reading and posting this year (2003) and I've never posted here under another name.

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-20-2003 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by swamp gas:

Yes halva, from PHXPilot to BJM to Captwalker to George Bush to Hussein. The Cro-Magnons have to resort to threats, since their logic is flawed and they can't convince anyone of their far-right ideas, save themselves. They have to point guns at us to make us think like they do.

Sorry you feel that way, but I haven't threatened anyone, and I think I've even been pretty good about not calling people names (I do think I called hitech dellusional), which is more than I can say for alot of the CT believers here. See, I've even refrained from calling CTB's 'chemmies' because I know you/they don't like it and I respect that I am a guest here. I think I'm just about done on this board anyway, it's far too frustrating having the same discussions over and over and over. I know I'm not going to convince anyone (although 'the professor' has shown a few chinks in the armor recently ) and until I see some clear evidence of a spraying program/mechanism I doubt I'll be swayed. I will however keep an eye to the sky and let you know if I see anything noteworthy.

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-20-2003 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Watch the Skies.... Everywhere"


The Thing.....1951


[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 03-20-2003]

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CaptWalker
logic infuser


99 posts, Feb 2003

posted 03-20-2003 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptWalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swamp gas:
"Watch the Skies.... Everywhere"
The Thing.....1951


[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 03-20-2003]

Man, I'm getting too cliche.

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