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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001

posted 03-29-2003 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My what a 'MESS' this place had become. To anybody trying to wade through the 'white noise' generators here... Find out YOURSELF what's going on. I've had this page up for sometime now. You can't see the hyperlinks here but if you goto the URL they're embedded for support of what's said. This is where the information led ME. I've since continued to document and enhance this information in daily newsletters.

CHEMTRAILS - The TOOL of GENOCIDE! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/2196


ERYTHROCYTES: POSITIVE VISUAL IDENTIFICATION http://www.carnicom.com/bio7.htm
Positive visual identification of erythrocytes, or red blood cells, is now apparent from the microphotographs which are presented on this page. The samples shown are taken from atmospheric testing in Santa Fe, NM using the methods of electrostatic precipitation as described earlier. The magnification achieved on this most recent analysis makes the case quite clearly that biological components are now a regular feature of the atmosphere that we all breathe. This is in addition to the saturated level of particulate matter that has been documented at an equal level of veracity, along with the obvious degradation in visibility that is now all too apparent. Crimes of the highest order are being perpetrated on the citizens without their knowledge or consent. The citizens of this country must confront this issue in a public and vocal forum with urgency.


The material below supports the following interview:
an Interview about Chemtrails with Larry Lawson
Link: http://www.fourthbranch.org/lawson2.asf


Beginning In November / December 1998 many people began seeing a new sight in the skies above. White trails from jet planes that STAYED in the skies instead of dissapating and disappearing as normal jet CONTRAILS had done. Also, attention was drawn because many trails were laid down in 'X' patterns, tic-tac-toes, parallel rows and other PATTERNS. Many websites and digital photos of these 'CHEMTRAILS' popped up on the internet along with speculation for thier purpose. This has grown to THOUSANDS today along with numerous complaints to government AND MEDIA officials that have routinely been IGNORED.
Here is but one important example:
Letter to Joseph Farah - Page 1
Letter to Joseph Farah - Page 2
Letter to Joseph Farah - Page 3
Letter to Joseph Farah - Page 4
Letter to Joseph Farah - Page 5


Distinction between CONtrails and CHEMTRAILS
First, the distinction between a normal jet contrail and a CHEMTRAIL. As a jet burns jet fuel, it produces CONdensation or water vapor. Many government officials have been told to dismiss CHEMTRAIL complaints as jet condensation. This is proven to be yet another one of thier LIES for several reasons. Normal jet CONtrails disappear shortly behind the jet as the water vapor mixes back into the atmosphere. CHEMTRAILS REMAIN visible in the atmosphere and actually fan out to turn the whole sky into a powdery blue/white haze in appearance. This material is NOT dissapating or being absorbed back into the atmosphere. Also, you can often see planes flying at the SAME altitude and environmental conditions yet some leave CHEMTRAILS and others do NOT. More importantly, material ejected from these planes is reaching the GROUND and under the right conditions can be seen by the naked eye. More on that later. It's also been visually determined using higher power scopes and binoculars, that the planes that started this spraying were MILITARY jets! Specifically Air Force KC-135 TANKER planes and NAVY Tacamo planes were identified. Today we're also seeing all white planes that resemble commercial jet liners. It's also interesting to note that the NAVY had filed the PATENT on contrail powder generation and they're closely tied to the CIA. Sightings are in several western countries.

As to the PURPOSE for these CHEMTRAILS, unfortunately human GENOCIDE comes up as the ultimate goal. I'll support this by showing 2 effects of CHEMTRAIL spraying. The deliberate dissemination of BIOLOGICAL material and WEATHER MODIFICATION by causing DROUGHT. Both of these suit the AGENDA of the U.N. and globalists for removing 9/10 of the population from the United States with the appearance of PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. By that, I mean achieving an ILLEGAL goal with what APPEARS to be a 'natural disaster.' PLAGUES and DROUGHT. The U.N. has already mapped out the areas they'd like to see CLEARED of human habitation in a BIODIVERSITY MAP. Also, rich globalists like Rockefeller, Ted Turner and others have an ideology that includes CULLING off humans to help the earth mother GAIA. These ideas are even written in a stone monument in Georgia called: The Georgia Guidestones. Sick twisted mural paintings depicting a dying populace overseen by russians wearing gas masks can be seen at the Denver International Airport which is also thought to be sitting on top of a secret underground NWO (New World Order) control base. Many of these globalist and U.S. leaders are LUCIFERIAN in their beliefs. Current U.S. leaders have been asociated with the Bohemian Grove in CA which has been videotaped has having a SATANIC like sacrifice and ceremony there. We're talking George Bush Sr. AND Jr. AND Dick Cheney and others here folks! So if you don't think these people are CAPABLE of MASS MURDER..... YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!

BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS
It is interesting to note that the oldest satellite photo of obvious CHEMTRAILS is over the GULF WAR theater in 1991. MANY soldiers came back from that war SICK and many DIED. One effect noted by many after seeing heavy spraying is that MANY people get seriously ill with flu-LIKE symptoms. MANY HAVE DIED!!! I first saw my first trails in February 1999. Shortly after this, my sister was quarantined in a hospital for MENENGITIS and thought she might die. Her boyfriend got PNEUMONIA. Her son got a serious EAR INFECTION. Her daughter got a 104' fever. A farmer down the road got a respiratory infection. I started to get one and knocked it down in 3 days by taking large amounts of colloidal silver. MANY OTHERS GOT ILL IN THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME. Since these sightings, material resembling 'spider web' had been observed falling from the sky. This material had been collected by people and many labs REFUSED to identify what it was. One concerned citizen, Clifford Carnicom had started a website on CHEMTRAILS and did some personal analysis of these fibers. He found by STAINING some with an iodine dye, that some type of BLOOD CELLS were attached to these sticky fibers. Once stained these could be seen under a microscope. Soing searches on the internet, I found one site that mentioned being able to SEE fragments of these fibers under a BLACKLIGHT. Interestingly enough, not just any blacklight but only the fluorescent tube type. The bulb type would not work. Since I've had one of these since I was young, I decided to try this easy experiment. I was AMAZED to find these tiny threadlike fibers on my hair, hands, arms and clothing. I tried various control tests to make sure this was coming from outdoors and wasn't just some 'dust' or something. REPEATEDLY after heavy CHEMTRAIL spraying I was able to collect this 'PARTICULATE' on dark clothing. Additionally, I was able to see this material on various persons and their clothing. Most was seen on their hair and their shoulders bolstering the conclusion that this was 'raining' down on them. Clifford Carnicom found a method of SEEING this particulate in the daytime. I also have found that by using a maglite flashlight on tight beam, or a spotlight, you can see virtually a CLOUD of this 'particulate' whizzing around on still nights after spraying. I even caught a 1" fiber and confirmed its 'sticky' properties. These are simple methods you can do YOURSELF. It's very interesting to watch people's reaction when they SEE these fibers on THEMSELVES. It makes the whole thing a bit more REAL for them. Logically, if there are BLOOD CELLS attached to these fibers and you're breathing them in, they probably have a cumulative effect. The more you breathe, the more easily your body can be OVERWHELMED by them. Like being over run by the Chinese. Also, with this 'DELIVERY SYSTEM' operating intact, almost any disease or illness that can be contracted through the AIR can be disseminated. HOOF and Mouth for animals perhaps? Did you hear this was DELIBERATELY stolen from a British BIOWARFARE LAB and then the whistleblower mysteriously comitted SUICIDE? Then appears to have been DELIBERATELY spread in the U.K. by the British Army. OR possibly something faster and more LETHAL for humans will be sprayed.


DELIBERATE DROUGHT (Weather Modification)
Since I began reporting on CHEMTRAILS in newsletters from February 1999 on, I've noticed something repeatedly and consistent. Here in Indiana where I live, whenever we'd have the probability of RAIN in our area, CHEMTRAIL activity would noticibly increase. Additionally, the appearance of the cloud 'structure' would CHANGE different from what I'd ever seen before. One of my many 'hobbies' as a kid was reading books on meteorology and I saw many photos of cloud formations and the names given them. NORMAL rain bearing thunder clouds had a dark gray and 'bumpy' appearance to them. Clouds would move overhead having this appearance then CHANGE! The bumpy appearance would flatten out looking like a watery lake above. Also, the dark grey color would LIGHTEN and the whole sky became a homogenous one color light grey/white in color. REPEATELY this would yield only a very light rain. Indeed I wouldn't call it rain so much as a 'misty drizzle' which would yield very LITTLE water. Over and over and OVER this would happen. Those that got the newsletters I sent would receive reports of these 'drizzles' as they happened. Gradually I noticed more and more DROUGHT stories appearing on the internet. As the farmers in Klamouth Falls Oregon took their plight before a court, it had become clear to me that these DROUGHTS were DELIBERATE EVENTS. An FAA official confirmed that planes had to be moved to allow MILITARY planes into his area. The purpose he was told was WEATHER MODIFICATION. Shortly thereafter, heavy CHEMTRAILS were sighted in his area. Interviews were heard on Jeff Rense and Art Bell shows. Prior to Sierra Times and other stories on the farmers plight, a satellite photo showing CHEMTRAILS being sprayed into oncoming storm fronts appeared. Another series of satellite photos showed specific CHEMTRAIL 'grid' patterns over Portland Oregon itself. Other stories and hearing stories of wells drying up HERE makes 2 plus 2 equal FOUR!! The farmers NEED to be INFORMED that their plight was caused INTENTIONALLY! And WE need to SUPPORT THEM!! Now of course the big news is all the FIRES in Arizona and other states DELIBERATELY SET by FEDs!!! People are being BURNED OUT OF THEIR HOMES for the stinking U.N. and their heinous Desertification Treaties! It's been no accident that meters have been put on wells. Alex Jones reported that FEDs want to get on Texas farm grounds to mark wells with GPS coordinates. Heritage Rivers act. The World Bank wanted to start a WATER BANK. Doesn't all this seem a bit OBVIOUS?? The danger of people being driven off their land by WILDFIRES is now a greater risk also.

Photos of a rainstorm being modified:
Death of a rainstorm Photo #1
Death of a rainstorm Photo #2

Death of a rainstorm Photo #3
Death of a rainstorm Photo #4


What can you DO about it??
COUNTERMEASURES for the BIOLOGICAL aspects CAN be taken. It's no accident that the U.S. government has restricted importation of GAS MASKS. However, the visible size of the biological material means it CAN be filtered out. Your KNOWLEDGE of its existence means you should LIMIT your EXPOSURE whenever you can. I know it's summer and nice outside, but these creeps are REALLY TRYING TO KILL YOU! And if you're elderly or more suceptible to respiratory illness, you're at greater RISK. In your home, a good HEPA air filter WILL trap this particulate. Try using it in your bedroom at night as you sleep. Don't try to clean the whole house with it. If you HAVE to be outdoors, I personally use an air respirator filter from Lab Safety Supplies catalog. Even a simple paint respirator filter from an auto parts supply or hardware store would work. Get extra filters. Many people have reported that COLLOIDAL SILVER helps alleviate infections and symptoms.

Many people have already written government and media officials. The best approach is to BYPASS conventional media and talk to your friends neighbors and relatives DIRECTLY about CHEMTRAILS. Print stories and photos off the internet for them to see. Leave some around to be 'found' by curious people. There are literally THOUSANDS of website addresses on CHEMTRAILS. Simply use a search engine like: http://www.google.com and enter the word: CHEMTRAILS See where it takes you. There's also a 2 hour VIDEO on CHEMTRAILS available from Free America at: Phone: (505)-423-3250 Texxe Marrs and Joyce Reilly and others are selling it also. Typical cost is $25 and is NOT copyguarded. Copies ARE encouraged by owner. I personally pass out a FLYER to people and have put a SIGN on my cars. It's amazing how curious people are and read them with different reactions. Adding a website for them to view helps like: http://www.carnicom.com is the best in my opinion. Beat up on the media for NOT reporting this story. WHAT COULD BE BIGGER?? THANK those that DO!

Join an online club such as: CHEMTRAIL CENTRAL or CHEMTRAIL TRACKING USA or MESSAGE BOARD

There was a CHEMTRAILS PROTEST RALLY on June 23, 2001 in front of Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
You can organize others.

Whatever you do, DO SOMETHING! We MUST do what we can to STRIP the government's PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY and EXPOSE this heinous tool of the New World Order. Maybe when people fully realize what's being done to them and WHY they'll rise up and throw off this heavy yoke. Until then, things WILL get worse and nobody will escape the effects of FOOD AND WATER SHORTAGES. So I urge you to get educated and involved BEFORE we're under MARTIAL LAW and can do NOTHING!

If you need any assistance or have any questions I might be able to help with, contact me at: hitech@smithville.net
Current newsletters on these and related topics may be seen at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews


I thank Wayne Hicks, and anybody who takes this issue SERIOUSLY and spreads the word.


May God help U.S. ALL!!



Sincerely,


Larry L. Lawson hitech@smithville.net

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-30-2003 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good gosh that was the biggest load of crap I've ever seen. A few quick points before my nap time after two days of spraying chemicals, I mean, making contrails:


"Normal jet CONtrails disappear shortly behind the jet as the water vapor mixes back into the atmosphere."


INCORRECT!! Contrails behind aircraft may linger for hours upon hours after passing due to humidty and temperature conditions. They tend to appear in cross crossing rows in these condtions because air moves at very high speeds in the 30,000 foot altitude range. Airways, though, don't move and are fixed from the ground. Thus, one airplane passes by, and leaves it's trail. The air moves, sometimes a few miles and another goes by, leaving a parrallel trail- repeat. Then add interecting airways- you get my point.


I'd just like to note, if you've ever seen an aircraft dumping fuel- then you'd actually see what a "chemical" looks like coming out of an airplane.


CHEMTRAILS REMAIN visible in the atmosphere and actually fan out to turn the whole sky into a powdery blue/white haze in appearance. This material is NOT dissapating or being absorbed back into the atmosphere.

..... See above answer.

Also, you can often see planes flying at the SAME altitude and environmental conditions yet some leave CHEMTRAILS and others do NOT."

How on earth can you tell an airplane is at the same altitude from the ground? Those aircraft are 7 miles away from you if you are standing right below them, much less slant range distance. You visually wouldnt be able to tell the difference between an airplane at 25,000 or at 35,000 feet.


"More importantly, material ejected from these planes is reaching the GROUND and under the right conditions can be seen by the naked eye."

See my other post concerning winds aloft. Why the heck would "they" dump something up high like that if they have NO CLUE where it will settle?

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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude


Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-30-2003 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing to note, though. There have been efforts in studying weather to try to "make" a cloud produce a rainstorm. It's called cloud seeding. Try searching for it- results were very inconclusive and for the most part unsuccessful.

Contrary to what you may believe- when the airplane flew by to "seed" the cloud, it produces no visible trail.

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001

posted 03-30-2003 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A. computer modeling and testing have allowed these cruds to determine very well where these POLYMER FILAMENTS will fall.

B. Cloud seeding DOES work as illustrated a few months ago when CHEMTRAILS were stopped over texas and THEN... these slime seeded the clouds creating FLOODS! Then they had the gall to ADMIT the seeding but say that the resulting floods were merely 'cooincidental.'

People, these weather warfare techniques ARE being used against U.S. NOW. Those that spew the kind of crap I just read are either willfully ignorant of PART of the problem.

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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing


Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-30-2003 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A. computer modeling and testing have allowed these cruds to determine very well where these POLYMER FILAMENTS will fall.

A week or so ago, I saw a classic example of a contrail that you guys would call a chemtrail. Big, billowy, and persistent and right over the city of Phoenix. Oh, but wait!! After 2 hours, the contrail had been blown all the way out to the eastern horizon where there isnt civilization for hundreds of miles! I guess our crack squad of chemtrail commanders really wanted to poison those coyotes and gila monsters, huh?

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msu94
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Tucson, AZ
206 posts, Feb 2002

posted 03-30-2003 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msu94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now hitech larry, I am giving you another chance to say exactly how cloud seeding causes flooding.

Obviously you would be knowledgeable about cloud seeding if you were to make such statements, so tell us in a logical and scientific manner the process for flooding by cloud seeding.

And see if you can do it without mentioning UN/NWO or the evil Joos.

And you think you can just drop fibers at 30-40,000 ft and a computer will tell you where they will fall???????

Time to go see the airshow today and watch some of those evil satan worshipping military pilots.



[Edited 2 times, lastly by msu94 on 03-30-2003]

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Lulu
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right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-31-2003 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Canadian Pilot stated

quote:
That website makes me laugh....then it gets me really pissed too!!

I wrote up a long post on exactly how contrails are formed. And well, I got banned 7 minutes later.

Oh well. Let them believe what they want to believe.


-Chris



quote:
But All I did was post some facts!

Geez



http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/58835/

Thermit explained that your spam posts were removed and why CP ~

>>quote:
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They removed my post after about 15mins.....

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No that isn't exactly true. The poster spamed the board with at least 3 copies of the same exact post, so the extra copies were removed.<<
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001735-5.html

And not true PHXPilot, we do like facts here, just not spamming. But if you pilots want to play your fantasy game...go right ahead

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-31-2003 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
man larry...that is the longest post you ever done...spam is good...fried spam is better...fried spam and ham...fried spam and ham and cheese !

I'll catch ya lu...

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Lulu
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posted 03-31-2003 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not while there's breath left in me seek

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posted 04-06-2003 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Guido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lulu:
But if you pilots want to play your fantasy game...go right ahead

LMFAO Play OUR fantasy games??? ROFLMAO!!!!

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Fibromaniq
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Right behind you Red
41 posts, Feb 2003

posted 04-07-2003 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fibromaniq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a phoney pose you strike, Pilot. Trying to suggest that you are "making a report", when in fact you have only one opinion, -are you are being paid to do this?

We can keep posting the same response to your same pose - THERE ARE NORMAL CONTRAILS, THAT HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT. Disguised as normal, the NWO can spray in daytime.
please keep in mind that most, if not all, biologicals are sprayed at nighttime, thats the way thetesting was done, and there is no reason to think the plan has changed.
Of course, the majority of chemtrails, and the spraying, is done in daytime, just not biologicals. Daily spray is needed for the Sheild against UV, if thats part of it.

So to continue to put forward the same old arguement ["Hey, they look like contrials, maybe they are not real"] is fairly psycho, even in relation to the charachters we find here [ha!].
But I keep letting PHX take my time and forward thinking with his uni-thought. That is a typical ploy used by the NWO. Nobody has been more obvious doing the work of the NWO - it happens often that unwitting people are doing the work of the NWO just by following standard [media and propoganda] lines of thinking haded to us by the NWO. Soft recruits...

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chemwatcher
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posted 04-08-2003 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well phxpilot, i have an idea! why don't you do as the rest of us have done and go to the countless sites and seemingly endless evidence and read, you telling me you've formed your oppinion without even checking the facts, you have the nerve to attack the people suffering from chemtrails .CHECK THE CDC. THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF MAN IS LOWER RESPITORY!!!!It used to be and all my life has been heart attack!read,read i'll give you some sites to try aerosol coverup,chemtrais,contrails ce.carnicom ect. oh and buy the way i can't tell you how many times i've scene contrails in the same sky, same approx elevation same air space as the huge plumes of chem-spray hum, really ,one dissipates, one stays and grows and grows and stays untill it's blown out of here,and again i'm from phoenix and i just watched this phenomenon the last two day's it's windy today they wont spray on windy day's,pray for the wind!please read and illuminate yourself and your mind ,they are lying to us all!!!!!!!!

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everetteyes
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When your mind and heart tell you that what you've seen with your own eyes is real...................

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