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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-21-2003 04:29 PM
   
And these silly chemmies NEVER address the FACT that the government DID those things long ago. To small extents, and most times in foreign lands. I mailed a letter yesterday. Does that mean I am mailing a letter now? Past does not equal present. 
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 03-22-2003 03:08 AM
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I mailed a letter yesterday. Does that mean I am mailing a letter now?Past does not equal present.
-PHXPilot
Rather silly analogy, as the odds are that you will, in fact, mail another letter some time in the future. Besides, your example is a mere “snapshot” of a benign action. How about a serial killer? You gonna trust that person to not kill again just because he/she hasn’t happened to kill for a period of time? Time has little, if anything to do with it...
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-22-2003 08:31 AM
Quakker, I think you missed the point. My mian point was that, although somthing has happened in the past (and barely), does not mean that it is currently happening. Sure, authorities have admitted to spraying chemicals out of aircraft a few times, in other countries, but that is not evidence to suggest it is currently being done over our, and their own, heads.I may mail another letter in the future. The Serial Killer may kill again. Does that mean that they are both being carried out right now? Time has little, if anything to do with it... Time has much to do with it. "It has happened in the past" does not equal "it is happening right now."
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 03-22-2003]
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 03-22-2003 11:07 PM
You have a very promising future as a politician, PHXPilot.
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001
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posted 03-23-2003 03:23 PM
"Depends on what your definition of 'is' is."From the guy who said: "Seeing is not believing..." Nothing is what it seems with debunkie PHX eh? Don't take the time-of-day from this guy without checking your watch folks. That is, if you believe what YOU see....
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Molliani
Senior Member
Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 03-23-2003 06:14 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PHXPilot:[And these silly chemmies NEVER address the FACT that the government DID those things long ago. To small extents, and most times in foreign lands.] The FACT is PHX, that YOU don't have to BELIEVE in chemtrails for CHEMTRAILS TO EXIST.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-23-2003 06:38 PM
The FACT is PHX, that YOU don't have to BELIEVE in chemtrails for CHEMTRAILS TO EXIST.And you dont have to stop believing in chemtrails for them not to exist. You thinking they exist does not make it so. The overwhelming "motto" im getting from most of you is "I see ___, so it must mean that ____ is happening". What im trying to teach you is that yes, you do see long lasting contrails, but your assumption of chemicals is faulty, in my opinion.
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Molliani
Senior Member
Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 03-24-2003 01:01 AM
[QUOTE] Originally posted by PHXPilot:[And you dont have to stop believing in chemtrails for them not to exist.] Now you get it !! The existence of chemtrails is NOT dependent on whether or not you believe they exist.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-24-2003 04:55 PM
Exactly.Just because you think contrails are made of chemicals doesnt mean they are. And just because I dont think contrails have chemicals in them doesnt mean they dont. Thats what evidence is for.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-24-2003 09:04 PM
"I was interested in this: they keep arguing that it is possible. And that's true. It is possible. They do not appreciate that the problem is not to demonstrate whether it's possible or not but whether it's going on or not."-Richard Feynman on the topic of debating the existance of UFOs.
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001
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posted 03-25-2003 08:12 AM
Our resident PRETEND PHX expert here has mis-represented some things.. (SURPRISE!) First off debunkie, the facts and programs the U.S. has admitted to are neither LONG ago nor small potoatos operations in other countries. The Air Force's own website states their objectives as using the weather as a 'force multiplier.' To create droughts and floods to be used against enemies. Most anti- gubment conspiracy types like YOU fail to allow people to come to the conclusion that THEY are the enemy! A good example was seen down in Texas several months back when CHEMTRAILS were stopped over Texas then the resulting rain clouds were SEEDED and floods resulted. The unmittigated gall of the media to assert that it was just COOINCIDENCE that a flood happened after seeding is typical of how far brain cells have fallen in this country.Similarly the CROCK argument that CHEMTRAILS are CONtrails. Again, and again... These trails dissipated PRIOR to late 1998. The physics of the atmosphere to reabsorb moisture hasn't changed. Because it's NOT MOISTURE that we're seeing! Polymer filaments are being emitted and SEEN for hours on end. These filaments are at the heart of most CHEMTRAIL operations whether for weather modification or biochemical dissemination. GOOD PHOTOS are seen of both at carnicom's website and others. Wake yourself from the 'white noise' slumber that PHX pretend pilot debunkie has got you in.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 03-25-2003 04:14 PM
These trails dissipated PRIOR to late 1998. Why in the heck do you keep saying this? There are hundreds of photos showing long lasting persistent contrails as far back as the 40s, when aircraft started flying high enough to produce them. I will go find and post all of these photos if you wish.
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msu94
Senior Member
Tucson, AZ
206 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 03-25-2003 07:05 PM
I used to be involved in cloud seeding around the San Antonio area, and it sure is not going to result in floods. Do you know how cloud seeding actually works? If so, then how does it make flooding conditions?
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