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ArmageddonOuttaHere
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16 posts, Aug 2002

posted 03-29-2003 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArmageddonOuttaHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was curious if anyone has notice a decrease in trail activity since the Iraq war has started. Unfortunately I work at a different place now and do not have the sweeping views of the skies that I used to.
I did notice an intense amount of trail activity around March 9th in the South Snohomish county area of Washington but was not sure if this was a major deployment from Whidbey naval air station or not. Theoretically if these contrails are just from commercial or military aircraft, it seems like there should be less activity now.

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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT

Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002

posted 03-29-2003 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for everetteyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings from Everett WA,
I only wish that the trails had slowed down or stopped over my house but it is not to be.
The traitors in the sky continue to work over Snohomish CO.It's great to hear from another local yocal.How long have you been awake?

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ArmageddonOuttaHere
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16 posts, Aug 2002

posted 03-29-2003 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArmageddonOuttaHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last summer, I had a job where I was outside pretty much the whole day. The place where I worked was pretty open and had some incredible views. One day, out of the blue (so to speak)I looked up and saw that the whole sky was covered with trails in every direction imaginable. When I started seeing again, I took a camera with me to document what I saw. I got some good pictures, but not ones of all the really bad days. Haven't seen much lately except for earlier this month..mainly because its been raining for quite a while!
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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-29-2003 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seems like there should be less activity now.

No slow down over the north east.

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-29-2003 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No slow down here.... I've seen more trails in the last two days than I have in several months. If anything there's a definite increase for some reason. This time of the year the skies should be a pretty blue but it's basically a mess out there.

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Griswald
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North Central Washington
2 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-29-2003 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Griswald     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Catnip57, the spraying around here has been so very heavy. Go to bed weezing and wake up coughing. My doggies eyes are red and their noses are running. One of my dogs just had pups and the poor things noses are running - it is so sad.

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everetteyes
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Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002

posted 03-29-2003 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for everetteyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Griswald,
How far from Winthrop and the Methow valley are you?My parents live at the north end of the valley,

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Griswald
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North Central Washington
2 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-29-2003 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Griswald     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just west of the town Tonasket, south of Loomis.
This area is called "The Sunny Okanogan" but lately there has been less blue sunny skies then there should be.

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bigjoe
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Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 03-30-2003 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anything, the activity here in the northeast has actually increased since last summer.

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increase 1776
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Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-30-2003 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for increase 1776     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have experienced an increase in spraying since the Iraq slaughter started.Today I saw the largest, single, chemtrail to date, for this member.Where are all these pilots coming from?,USSR,China,Israel,or just Pilots for Hire.Independent contractors from,mmm...Caryle Group,Wackenhaut,etc.

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-30-2003 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When there arent any contrails/chemtrails (as you call it)- it's called LOW HUMIDITY.

I fly at high altitude quite often and see aircraft putting out trails.... nope.. no fart control chemicals. And they sure as hell arent spraying anything... if they were really spraying, they would do it at low altitude because winds aloft are so strong the stuff would be carried hundreds of miles, if not around the world before settling down.

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-30-2003 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody but you debunkers seem to know what they are talking about.

Take a hike!!!

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-30-2003 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>When there arent any contrails/chemtrails (as you call it)- it's called LOW HUMIDITY.<<

Really Heavy? Explain this then please ~

Originally posted by Lulu ~

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Trails seen all day long persisting for hours, drifting S/E, yet I checked every altitude for RH using ADDS and no readings were above 40%, most below 30%. So therefore there is something in the atmosphere which causes trails to persit regardless of the RH readings, or they are CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!! Of course, further study is warranted....

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000876.html

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-30-2003 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what hi-alt charts are these that you check "all of them?"

500mb? 300mb? Hi-alt sig wx prog?

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Megatherion
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5 posts, Oct 2001

posted 03-30-2003 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Megatherion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chemtrails Destroyed !
How to Build A Cloudbuster to disperse Chemtrails and Improve the Weather http://tomegatherion.blogspot.com/

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-31-2003 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The charts I used were founds here ~
http://adds.aviationweather.gov/projects/adds/flight_path/

And, in fact, I checked readings at 10,000, 14,000, 20,000, 24,000, 30,000, 34,000, 40,000, and 44,000 feet.

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Feelin Kocky
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Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-31-2003 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just remember, ADDS incorperates RUC model data which has a terrible dry bias. It also uses the ETA models which, in my experience has a dry bias at upper levels.

The best way to check conditions is by looking at upper air plots from Rawinsonde observations.

F.K.

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001

posted 03-31-2003 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I myself have noted a direct correlation between approaching weather fronts and the amoung of CHEMTRAILING done ahead of them. I live in SW Indiana. If we have a large front typically inbound from the West NW, we see heavy spraying anywhere up to a day BEFORE the storm arrives depending upon wind speed. Again you can SEE the effect the polymer filaments have on the thunderheads. They literally DISSOLVE! Last night we saw some thunderheads dissolved here in IN but they were selectively targeted rather than the whole sky layered up. You can see the bottom of the thunderheads looking like white hair falling down as they are modified.

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-31-2003 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hitech- interesting you mention that- which helps prove my point even further.

Before fronts pass through, you will always have more moisture and cirrus clouds up at altitude. Upper level cirrus is a tale tale sign of an approaching front. Contrails are very prone to occur in these conditions- and will last much longer. A little food for thought- maybe the government isn't after you?? Maybe these things really are innocent aircraft travelling along our federal airway system?

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Billy_D
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Hayward, CA, USA
19 posts, Nov 2002

posted 03-31-2003 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy_D   Visit Billy_D's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd have to agree with catnip, i'm here on the west coast and have definately seen an increase since te iraq conflict started

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 03-31-2003 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which brings me to my next point.. I SUCK AT TYPING!!!! Sorry about the typos, fellas.

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Don't fake the funk on the nasty dunk.

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 03-31-2003 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>Sorry about the typos, fellas.<<

No problemo girlfriend!

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Broward
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
8 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-31-2003 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Broward   Visit Broward's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, quite heavy even with clear skies in the Keys and South FLorida.
Here:

Look for the haze, not the 'natural' popcorn clouds.
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/EVENTS/EG21.GIF
Weather modification it is, but at what expense?
Human, environmental?

PS, where's the 'log out' option on this thing?
Hmmm.

Think globally act locally.
Put flyers up at parks questioning the trails!
Gorilla glue or ductape works fine especially on metal stop signs.

How ya like me now?

Dodging SARS,
peace!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Broward on 03-31-2003]

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-08-2003 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
finaly people to talk to, yes,yes,yes,they have it's not just your area or your imagination. here in phoenix we've had the longest brake I can remember scence they started spraying.BUT unfortunatley they have started up again and are hosing us good, complete cloud cover all day yesterday and into the night.thankfully mother nature didn't co-operate and blew it out by mid day today.no telling what they do as we sleep! have you all sceen the petition for chemtrail disclosure it's a great piece of evidence for the purpose of applying pressure to our "eleced officals"

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tiredofbeingsprayedman

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-08-2003 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeanie:
Nobody but you debunkers seem to know what they are talking about.

Take a hike!!!


again a pilot that so sure there's no spraying going on are these guy's in a gray-matter challenged club or what,they always say somthing stupid like this guy come to phoenix and watch planes go buy so low and slow you can almost see the pilots kinda blows you hight and speed theories

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