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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-07-2003 01:39 PM
  
I think I've found Saddam Hussein's chemical stash! They're in the skies over the Inland Northwest today. There are chemtrails on top of chemtrails. Is this biochemical warfare against the American people and the land upon which we reside?All I had to do this morning was look up to see five spray planes spewing out the miles long trails. Two were flying parallel to each other, while one other was flying toward the two. There are the stringy, ribbon-like trails, and also the thick trails which expand out into the puffy or cottonball-like clouds. As I drove along, I observed more and more spray planes spewing out their miles long chemical trails. It is about 12:45 in the afternoon, and the spray planes have been at it all morning long; only a hint of blue sky is left. What our day would have been like without these trails: gorgeous billowy white and gray clouds against a deep blue sky. Oh, and I would not be smelling and tasting chemicals in the air I breathe.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 04:46 PM
They're in the skies over the Inland Northwest today. Airplanes in the NW??? Incredible! *faints* Is this biochemical warfare against the American people and the land upon which we reside? No All I had to do this morning was look up to see five spray planes spewing out the miles long trails. And thinking that these are 5 airliners on their way to their destination is wrong....how? Two were flying parallel to each other, while one other was flying toward the two. This is weird...why? I drove parallel to the guy in the car next to me today. I also saw a guy driving the opposite direction. WEIRD!! There are the stringy, ribbon-like trails, and also the thick trails which expand out into the puffy or cottonball-like clouds. Oh yes! Thats exactly how chemicals act when you pour them out of a plane at 30 thousand feet and 500kts! Oh, wait. No its not. ...gorgeous billowy white and gray clouds against a deep blue sky. Cant you see?!?!? Those are chemicals too!!! I saw clouds today in one part of the sky, and none in the other, so they must be part of a government plot!! And I didnt see them yesterday, but I did today, and they were making the shape of bunnies! CONSPIRACY! Oh, and I would not be smelling and tasting chemicals in the air I breathe. Oh no, that couldnt be from the thousands of pollutant sources surrounding your home. It couldnt be from diesel trucks, oil in your driveway, or the chemicals in bottles all over your house, could it? No, it has to be from the..CONTRAILS!!!
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Fibromaniq
Senior Member
Right behind you Red
41 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 06:21 PM
OH YES, THERE WE GO AGAIN, pilot. As I wil continue to remind everyone, esp. you Pilot, there are definately normal contrails. Thats how they get away with it, how they conceal it, and why we must make an effort to separte the chemtrails from the contrails.
Ellyn - Chemtrails: there is sometimes a sweet chemical smell to their payloads; some of them have unique hues;
Also, try to figure what commercial traffic is in the skies, and then see if the contrails match - if they are not part of the commercial airplane traffic, take a closer look and make notes. Thanks Elyn, for making this post. Please do not be dissuaded by our local "disturance" We keep him around to balance the thoughtfull postings, with the merely displeased-at-the-whole-idea posts common to PHX Pilot.
Why he does so much work for something he does not agree with as having any value speaks volumes about what his motives are. An official debunker has no reason to be posting here unless its to get us to quit making these accusations against our government/etc. Why is that so important to PHX? - one answer may be that he is afraid of what may turn out to be the truth, so he debunks. He, like most people, could not tolerate the reality of chemtrails, and what chemtrail's presence says about how our governments are not interested in our well being, and what their plans for OUR future are.
But the rest of us are willing to look the beast in the eye, reveal the crimes against us, and make a better world.
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-07-2003 07:35 PM
I'am glad to see some others have figured out that sad little boy.He needs a very long nap.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 07:57 PM
I spend just as much time here as I do at badastronomy.com talking about how silly the "planet X" idea is.Im not saying that what you guys see is wrong. It is quite right. But then you make the assumptions. That is where you lose it. You see two trails in the sky = true
This proves chemtrails = false You smell chemicals = true
They must be from contrails = false You see a racetrack contrail pattern = true
This must be an intentional spray pattern = false Contrails last for many hours = true
This proves they arent normal = false You guys HAVE to learn that there are humongous flaws in your little theory. You refuse to acknowledge them. 1. Aircraft could not hold enough chemicals to create these chemtrails 2 Even if they could, this is not what it would look like. I know everytime I pour fuel out of my plane, it creates clouds.  3. There are not enough aircraft available to carry out these sprayings all over the country. But you guys wont care if there are problems, the government is BAD goshdarnit. And that means they MUST be spraying.
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-07-2003 08:16 PM
Oh how wrong you are fakepilot.Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds. Wake up folks phx pilot tells nothing but lies and half truths.
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 08:20 PM
im not sure where to start except to say its seems like most people who dont believe about the covert op of chem trails are suffering from complete ignorance!!!!!dont these people educate themselves about what is or isnt posible. i live in phoenix ,where it is currently mid to upper eighties,where contrails cant suspend for longer than a few seconds before returning to a gas from a solid, yet for the last two days weve been sprayed like bugs. starting in the morning ,streaks,x`s narrow,wide creating a complete cirus cloud layer!!!!!! in arizona!!!!, im supposed to believe these are ice crystles lasting all day!!!!! not to mention,many of the plains observed were below 15000 feet contrails cant form that low ,not in az anyway.so i guess we will just keep trying to share the truth until they believe, many times the truth is met with much opposition until they see the light!dq.------------------
tiredofbeingsprayedman
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-07-2003 08:31 PM
Oh my god...Talk about making phx pilot look like a total idiot!That was great.
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 08:34 PM
Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds.Do you have any clue how long that would last if you released it at the rate needed to create these contrails?!?!?!? You are hopeless.
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-07-2003 09:37 PM
phxpilot where do you live again, phx,oh really , thats funny i live there, are we supposed to believe that we have ice crystles hanging in our air all day!!!!!!!!in phx az huh? hot air temp,low humidity,and you pilots must have rear view mirrors on your plains to see your own trails cause your not the first pilot to self proclaim yourself expert on contrails. why dont you try checking on air traffic youll find there is no plains posting flight paterns where the trails are, no record of the planes spraying chems, really no record huh! if these are regular flights why dosnt any claim to have flown these flights? as far as the fule thing again im supposed to believe they are dumping fule right over the top of our cities, really, i do believe its not normal to dump directly over cities insted of over less inhabited areas.anyway today it was mid eighties in phx and we were covered in "cons" all day,oh really,all day,in phx, contrails,oh yeah little ice crystles getting larger and larger spreding through the day untill it formed a cirrus cloud layer, same thing yesterday only worse,but amazingly the prior week and one half with more humidity and cooler temp,good conditions for contrails and nothing but the real thing,long,short,narrow,wide some fast dissipating, some slow but ALL DISSIPATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no trails, no X`s,no circles,no fake clouds, just beautiful puffy clouds,no funny weblike,streaky, look like they are raining down particals with rainbow like auras clouds. in closing im 46 years old and worked as a framer,contractor and can tell anyone who cares to listen "I HAVE NEVER SCENE THESE FUNNY TRAILS FROM PLAINS OR THESE WEIRD STRINGY WEB-LIKE CLOUDS" until about five years ago [being a carpenter i watched the sky always praying for rain you know]also check with the CDC.AND YOUL FIND THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE FOR DEATH IS NOW LOWER RESPITORY DISEASE.mabey people like phxpilot wont believe untill he or someone he loves gets sick and or dies from the chems as i have.i pray for us all as things wind tighter in this world. the truth will set us free! but we must work for it.dq ------------------
tiredofbeingsprayedman
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 01:22 AM
as I live and breath, I was just saying to my friend,we had not been sprayed much scence the war started [which was about two weeks no spray longest break we've had scence I've been watching], then the last two day's it's been back to insect status for us in phoenix and we thought and said those exact words to ourselves.keep the faith we'll get our beautiful skys back!
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chemwatcher
Senior Member
phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by everetteyes:
I'am glad to see some others have figured out that sad little boy.He needs a very long nap.
AMEN TO YOU ALL,i'm new here it's so nice to read your comments and thoughts , people are so afraid of the posibility that our"government" could "do such a thing" it's hard to see what you refuse to accept! thank's and keep up the good work spreding the word
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-08-2003 11:37 AM
The Inland Northwest is receiving more massive spraying today. When I went out to get my newspaper early this morning, I said to my neighbor, "I you want to see the beautiful blue sky, you had better look at it now." It is now about 10:45 a.m., and the spraying continues unabated.
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 12:39 PM
everetteyes wrote: "Oh how wrong you are fakepilot.Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds.
Wake up folks phx pilot tells nothing but lies and half truths."
Ok.. you're a moron and know nothing about this. Have you ever executed a fuel dump in a heavy jet? No??? So it's time for you to shut it and listen to someone who knows what they are talking about. A standard fuel dump from an airliner like the DC-10 drops 6000 pounds per minute, and that doesnt even create a lasting cloud, just a white mist that dissapates quite quickly. For everetteyes, this small rate of 6000 a minute would extinguish his 356,000 pounds in an hour. If any of you have seen a fuel dump pipe, it is only about an inch in diameter. Quite amazing actually.
Double this rate to 12,000 a minute and it only lasts thirty minutes.
One more thing...max weight on a KC-10 is around 600,000 pounds. Empty weight is right around 300K. 365,000 pounds of chemicals (not including fuel) would already put it wayyyyyy over maximum allowable weight. So add in the necessary fuel (capacity in normal fuel tanks is around 200,000 pounds- burns about 20,000 an hour), plus flight crew and airplane buckles under its own weight. Did PHX get slammed??? I think not- because you just got your ass handed to you.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by NW41Heavy on 04-08-2003]
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hitech_46253
Senior Member
Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001
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posted 04-08-2003 12:49 PM
Somebody's executed a dump allright. Between your ears! Ignore all the phony debunkie wannabe 'pilots' you seekers of TRUTH. The government has already ADMITTED to spraying biologicals and it's written into LAW. This SARS is just a precursor to a far more LETHAL variety to DEPOPULATE large areas. You can play games debunkies, but eventually these globalist PIGS may actually kill somebody you care about. IF you care about anything besides YOURSELVES that is!
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-08-2003 12:52 PM
First off dumb$hit I got the number"More then 356,000 pounds" off the air forces own website.And let me be clear I don't think whats going on over WA state is any kind of a fuel drop.I take it your an military pilot?I can see that I have struck quite a nerve talking about the KC-10...Are you nervous?
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 01:00 PM
365,000 pounds of fuel- yes. 365,000 pounds of chemicals plus fuel? nope- that is going to be one airplane that is not getting off the ground. The military increases gross weights of their aircraft above their civilian counterparts (in this case the DC-10-30, which I have experience in) by a little bit. You just got way out of your league when you started talking about a heavy that I am experienced in. Nervous? haha...definitely not. I'm not the one thinking that the government is spraying mind and weather control chemicals from imaginary aircraft. It amazes me when you guys jump all over PHX when myself and him and a couple of the other pilots are the only ones that know a thing about how the airspace system in the US works- myself being the only one that is professional.
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-08-2003 01:08 PM
A Professional?HA a professional spook is more like it.What airline do you fly for again? Or is that part of your imagination also.
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 01:25 PM
I don't fly for an airline there, tiger- at least for now- that should be changing in a month or so. I'm only 22 and will be graduating from college in a month. I fly for a charter operation that flies small jets and such out of tallahassee, as well as teach people how to fly. My dad is a 747-400 captain for a major airline and hooked me up with training in the DC-10-30 and 40 series when he was a captain and instructor on that aircraft. (that should narrow down which airline it is enough just by mentioning those two aircraft side by side). I'm getting paid to do what I love. :-)
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-08-2003 01:40 PM
So you're just a jr spray plane pilot,isn't that cute.Oh for a flock of geese at just the right time or maybe a faulty landing gear.
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 01:50 PM
Everett- What are you talking about? Flock of geese at just the right time? Or are you just going to keep running around that it is impossible for aircraft to hold the amount of chemicals you are talking about? I find that photo edited picture with the MD-80 series aircraft spraying especially amusing. That would last about 10 minutes..... ------------------
Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!
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PDXpilot
New Member
Portland, OR
20 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 03:30 PM
I would very strongly encourage some of the member of this forum to educate themselves on basic heavy aircraft operations before calling pilots on this forum fakes. There has been nothing but evidence to the cotrary.
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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT
Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002
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posted 04-08-2003 04:20 PM
You're tired out routine doesn't fly here.Try spouting your BS to someone who's still sleepwalking.
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 08:07 PM
Everett- you still haven answered me, how can an aircraft drop that huge tonnage of material over any length of time? You're going to have to come up with alot better response than "I saw this on the Air Force website." Proof with technical aspects! Not stuttered attempts at cutdowns... ------------------
Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!
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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude
Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-08-2003 10:34 PM
OK- in response to the previous confusions over the aircraft types that you're looking at- I've come up with a little quiz for all you chemmies! Let's test your NWO spray plane knowledge by playing "Identify that plane!" Tell me what plane it is, and I'll tell you that you're wrong.. I mean- whether you're right or not.  Let's see if you guys really know what you're talking about. Here we go! Image the First:
 http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18023723lg.jpg #2:
 http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18023588lg.jpg #3:
 http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18024352lg.jpg #4:
http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18024407lg.jpg #5:
 http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18024461lg.jpg And the kicker! Numero Six-o!
 http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/39454725058/18024460lg.jpg ------------------
Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!
[Edited 3 times, lastly by NW41Heavy on 04-08-2003]
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