posted 04-18-2003 12:23 AM            

If my loved ones start coming down with illnesses because of these sprayings you had better watch out. Perhaps I can't do anything to you, but I am just a statistic. There are other statistics who are closer to you and to whom you are vulnerable.

Be warned and vanish while you still have time to.

posted 04-18-2003 01:27 AM            

Generally speaking you guys would be better off disappearing now while the going is good for you.

I might not be able to do anything to you personally, but if I am just a statistic then there are many other statistics to whom you are rather more accessible. If anything starts happening to the health of my loved ones because of these secret and illegal activities I know how I will feel like behaving to people like you who speak and apparently think as if you are not of this world.

posted 04-18-2003 08:30 AM            

Some people on here said they wanted me to stay. So I stayed.

If my loved ones start coming down with illnesses because of these sprayings you had better watch out.

So, if your loved ones come down with an illness, you are going to try to track me down and kill me?

posted 04-18-2003 09:50 AM            

I noticed that. I think I may have made a facetious remark myself which could unfortunately have been interpreted as consent. This makes it all the more important to redress the balance. There is too much self-irony and self-mockery on my side of the debate, as if what is at stake is the lives and future of others rather than ourselves.

Your highly personalised interpretation of the reminder I gave you of the enmity you are stocking up for your future enjoyment is typical of what you understand. And of your conception of rationality.

I don't live in the Wild West, and I don't stake all on tracking down my man myself, or asking others to. Society, and history, have their own logic.

posted 04-18-2003 12:47 PM            

If anything starts happening to the health of my loved ones because of these secret and illegal activities I know how I will feel like behaving to people like you who speak and apparently think as if you are not of this world.

damn by my count that's seven personal threats against phx and debunking folks in general...

it's very clear that halva is suffering, not from physical illness...but from a paranoid delusion...

to add making threats of this nature is obviously the last resort of an exhausted mind...

get some help halva....and come back to the discussion when you can steer clear of threatening people...

sounds like something a mod should have said...

;/

posted 04-18-2003 02:46 PM            

What was the whole point of that Crybaby post PHX since you wont answer me in other threads! Only the fence jumpers asked you to stay.

Personally i like your idiot attitude that prevails over everyone else like a sore thumb! For not only do you demand proof of this whole thing but you also comment and fail to show proof of your own points of argument! Which you avoid answerin in other threads!Also i cant for the love of god figure out why this board is supposed to be proving something to PHX cause PHX said so??? Which brings us back to that whole isuue of WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT FOR PHX TO MAKE SURE BAD THOUGHTS DONT GET IN THE HEADS OF 1400+ REGISTERED USERS? #2 IS this your mission from god or gov???

When the fire stops buring and the smoke clears maybe you PHX will actually look at teh data being compiled on this matter, then maybe you will actually look at teh interesting developments in patents having to do with aersol spraying from aircraft,then maybe you can figure out what possible Barium salts could be used for!

posted 04-18-2003 11:23 PM            

Perhaps "debunking folk" cannot be expected to be any better than they are, but we expect our own side to be (better than we are).

And it is a fact that exasperation does sometimes get the upper hand. Debunkers think they are outside the cage laughing at the funny angry animals in it. But they are in the cage themselves.

posted 04-19-2003 09:17 AM            

Having no idea who Halva is or anything else about that name i can see exactly why he would post what he has, the pure ignorance of debunkers to demand some proof but not provide links to their proof [which is all over the net if its scientific data their banking their debunk's on] is only one of many reasons as to why a person would say such a thing! As many of the watchers have said they are guilty of the name calling at times, the sad part is no matter how much trash you debunkers or fence jumpers deal the watchers no matter how outlandish their "conspiracy" may be they will remain more honest then you debunk's will ever! Maybe alot of what is to be read is fiction, not one watcher would be upset if the conspiracy were provin 100% false, but you pilots,Dr's,scientists with all your knowledge and expertise you push on us here you have never managed to put together your own site, much less put together a post compiling all these scientific papers and studies that say so much about the contrail conspiracy....What the hell is wrong are you guys who you say you are, can you not put together a good sound post with the wealth of facts you always preach,cause that would help your cause so much it aint even funny but every #$%&*^& one of you avoid this kind of logic when its brought up over almost 3 years now!So until you do make your own site with all this data, or until you guys get a good post with all this data in it i suggest you lay off the supply us with the chemmie data argument, We will not work on the DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO...but the same could be said about the watchers but mind you they are providing a wealth of info[not all facts mind you] on this broad subject and most of you refuse to even look at it but were supposed to believe what you say without a scientific paper that states the fundamentals of your argument!

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posted 04-19-2003 10:40 AM            

I've been in San Diego. I was supposed to back earlier, but since my tickets were non-rev, I had to wait quite a bit longer. But I guess your going to suggest I take my laptop with me so I can repond to all your crap, huh?

posted 04-19-2003 11:19 AM            

As i said in my first cpl of posts im neither agaisnt or with the conspiracy yet merely a concerned Married father of 2 children! Now dont classify me as you do others and i wont classify you as anything other then what you say you are! The more post you make trying to help others see your point is fruitless unless you provide the backup info your talking about [that whole dont demand proof without providing proof]Hell i had no idea what FAR\AIM was but i found out rahter quickly, and im sure if ppl actually sat down and researched as should be done they would have all teh info of your points but wouldnt do your case alot of good to provide that for them?

posted 04-20-2003 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Oh, I see, well a Polymer is a molecule created by many monomers linked together. So, Im going to have to say, due to logic, that a Polymer Chain is a long, strung out, length of polymer molecules lniked together forming a "chain", if you will.

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Wow, for one that acts so smart i figured you could atleast use one of the best researching tools ever put forth to actually try and find some info for yourself on what a polymer chain might actually be! As usual it figures you wouldnt actually try and research what it is but instead assume what you think is logic, either way your only proving how shallow you really are! Same ole same ole I guess if you use'd a search engine you would have also come upon a cple reasonable uses for one polymerchain!Or maybe you do know what it is but merely ignoring it for a specific reason[Pure speculation LOL].

posted 04-20-2003 06:06 PM            

I searched google for "polymer chain", "Polymer Chain Definition", "Science Glossary", "Polymer Definitions", etc... but none gave a good definition.

So I had to go with what I knew about polymers.

posted 04-20-2003 06:26 PM            

Polymer:
a substance composed of macromolecules.

Macromolecule:
a molecule of high relative molecular mass, the structure of which essentially comprises the multiple repetition of a number of constitutional units.

Chain:
the whole part of part of a macromolecule (or oligomer molecule or block) comprising a sequence of constitutional units between two boundary constitutional units, each of which may be either an end-group or a branch point. Except in linear single-strand macromolecules, the definition of the chain may be somewhat arbitrary. A cyclic macromolecule has no end groups but may nevertheless be regarded as chain. Where appropriate, definitions relating to "macromolecule" may also be applied to "chain".
http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/10/10.491-md/www/CourseNotes/Polymer_CN_Glossary.html
http://www.nmt.edu/~morganp/MC_intro.html
http://www.p2pays.org/ref/10/09949.htm
http://sis.bris.ac.uk/~fr0119/
http://www.mse.utah.edu/~nairn/RSAC/LATDMan.pdf
http://focus.aps.org/story/v9/st2

posted 04-20-2003 10:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Dont I know it

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Yup your just another pilot, cocky as hell and no one can do it better then you eh? same ole same ole, Humble me oh great one the see'er of all Almighty contrail/pilot/meterologist/and everything thing mainstream.