posted 04-23-2003 02:00 PM            

the predictable reaction from the :use U all "sourse"
my tax dollars at waste
looks similar doen't it?
About Morgellions
"The Morgellons Skin Pathogen Foundation is a nonprofit organization founded for the purpose of funding basic research into the etiology of an increasingly prevalent skin disease of unknown origin. The greatest number of reports of this disease to our foundation, have come from California , Chicago and Long Island.

This skin disease is believed to be caused by an organism which has been difficult to identify. We are attempting to isolate this organism and determine how it is able to cause the intense itching, stinging and disfiguring skin lesions which are the main symptoms of this disease.

The most striking feature of this disease is the presence of fiber-like objects as well as clear filament-like objects of unknown origin, on or within skin lesions. The members of our foundation are clear in their conviction that the clear filaments and various fiber-like objects are the major clues to the cause of this skin disease.

posted 04-23-2003 11:10 PM            

assuming they are not textile, what is the believed intent of these fibers ?

what would be the delivery system for these fibers ?

we can start there.

posted 04-23-2003 11:35 PM            

EWG is petitioning US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Christine Todd Whitman to investigate DuPont for withholding the study from the Agency and is asking her to fine the company if it broke federal law. The study, which has never been submitted to EPA, became public only last year as the result of a class action lawsuit brought by 3,000 West Virginians living near the DuPont plant. They allege that PFOA pollution from the facility contaminates local tap water and threatens health.

The EWG petition comes on the eve of an EPA announcement that is expected to require expedited health studies and chemical data on PFOA from DuPont and other manufacturers — and similar information from companies that produce other members of the family of chemicals called “perfluorochemicals” (PFCs). EPA officials have expressed mounting concern over PFOA because it has been found to contaminate human blood pervasively and does not appear to break down in the environment. In 2000, EPA forced a chemical cousin of PFOA off the market. Known as PFOS, it was the original chemical ingredient in 3M’s Scotchgard products. PFOS has also been found almost universally in human blood, does not decay in the environment and is considered toxic.

posted 04-24-2003 10:17 PM            

I realize your insinuation in your "bet the ranch" I know what system it is...a comment reflective of a alternative science carnicon zombie...the old agent thing eh...

and actually yes I do have a good idea of the delivery system...it's called CLOTHES !

to eliminate it our nation would need to become nudists...

I thought you were here to field questions...

since you are into tail chasing I'll let someone else waste their time on you...

eureka ! I found it in my dryer's lint screen...

posted 04-25-2003 05:53 AM            

Hey seeker, how's your eyesight?

posted 04-25-2003 09:59 AM            

Penumbra: I'm curious to hear a description of what you are seeing. The "stuff" I've photographed is not visible to the naked eye; you have to cough it up. (There are other collection methods) Another unknown here on the Oregon Coast is visible to the naked eye and has been described in detail by Mark Sky. I'll ask him to direct you to locations where you can do a visual comparison.

posted 04-25-2003 10:28 PM            

Was not that:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/horizon/images/horizon4.jpg

Apparently it is actually this:

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?template=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1871&action=searchdbdisplay

More can be found at:
http://chem11.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1051300094

"maximum visibility to aid in the visual acquisition of aircraft target vehicles and the like." Radar sensitive chaff (mica and silica) in the chemical mixture permits tracking of chemical agent dispersal patterns in the atmosphere. As well, polymers (chemically synthesized compounds of very large molecules) are included to absorb water vapor for cloud formation. These compounds have a dual function, however, as they can be utilized as a dielectric, capable of sustaining an electric field and transmitting electrostatic force.

posted 04-25-2003 11:10 PM            

Smirk all you like, both are (barely) visible to human eye; neither are 'microscopic'. And they are being intentionaly injected into the air you breathe (and not by American Airlines).

These are the facts.

I was on the fence myself when people began reporting the fiber fallout. Could have been from anything, I figured. But when someone shows you a picture of the damn things stamped, for all intents and purposes, with PROPERTY OF THE USAF on them, you'd have to have rocks in your head the size of Stonehenge not to see the connection.

posted 04-25-2003 11:18 PM            

or type silicosis in any search engine. I do know from working in surgery that silicosis is bad juju. You don't want silica particles in your lungs.

posted 04-25-2003 11:43 PM            

>smirk<

posted 04-25-2003 11:44 PM            

You're not making any sense, Greg... and it's a moot (nonsensical) point anyway.

If military organization A admits to spraying fibril B over civilian population C, then the arguement over whether submitted evidence D is a perfect match for B is meaningless if A, B and C have already been established (if you're arguing that such wide-spread spraying of fibers is or isn't a reality, which is what I thought was being discussed).

If the thread is actually about your level of visual acuity, my apologies.... but somehow I didn't get that impression.

posted 04-26-2003 12:37 AM            

I would favor a ban the domestic tests of chaff resolution...

there's plenty of places to do potentially harmful tests...

are you saying that for 4 years chaff has been sprayed daily across this land dave ?

you better qualify your statement....

NO ALTERNATIVE SCIENCE EITHER !

posted 04-26-2003 03:39 AM            

""Chaff tends to make clouds look like they're capable of producing more precipitation than they really are. Sometimes, we're not absolutely sure what is and what is not chaff. It's like the old commercial, 'Is it real or Memorex?'. (I feel your pain, my brother - Chem).

Haffer said he'd just like to know when and where the big chaff dumps will occur. "We've tried to get some idea from the military, but they've been reluctant to share that with us," Haffer said.