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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude


Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 04-26-2003 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His point is.. there is no such thing as chemtrails. nothing in our skies has changed. Everything looks the same from when i was a young kid.. and i grew up going up in the skies all the time and staring at them all the time. I dreamed of oneday carving those numerous wispy trails through the skies.

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Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-26-2003 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me, but this thread is not about any idiotic and pointless contrail vs. chemtrail debate; if you don't have anything meaningful and on-topic to add, perhaps it would be best not to say anything at all.

Thanks for the additional information, Poco. I'll see what else I can dig up...

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-27-2003 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dave gets testy !

the statement you need to qualify is this one...which is my interpretation to YOUR implication...

are you saying that for 4 years chaff has been sprayed daily across this land dave ?

well...chemboy ?

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freesabri
New Member


lebanon,oregon,usa
1 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-27-2003 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freesabri   Visit freesabri's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lulu:
The following pictures were sent to me today, and I think they deserve further investigation. The photographer is Larry Meyer ( gcgems@harborside.com ), he used an Intel Video Microscope at 60x. All pictures were taken this year, in March/April, Central Oregon Coast.

From Larry ~

Verrrry interesting Larry!


Ballpoint pen tip with fibrils


Fibrils in comb 2


hi, I'm new to the forum. I live in Oregon.Last week my boyfriend and I Notice that they were spraying really heavy at night so we decided to see if our blacklight would detect anything. We used it on ourselves before we went out side. We were out there for about 10 mins. ( We could even taste it in our mouths it was so heavy) After we went back inside we couldn't believe what we saw! We had these fibers all over us, We couldn't see without the black light. Also our eyes, nose, throat, ears, bottom of our feet were all a bright green color. We could see it up our noses and down our throats. It was really scary. After being out there we have developed a back cough. Has anyone else tried this? The fibers looked like the pictures posted by larry.

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-27-2003 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I had some time to look around for a few more pictures of skin parasites. Here’s a web site that had some really similar looking samples as those posted by Lulu at the beginning of this thread. This particular site has lots more where these came from.
http://www.skinparasites.com/gallery/page_01.htm


I thought the similarities were quite scary.

http://www.skinparasites.com/gallery/nuspa0052.jpg


http://www.skinparasites.com/gallery/nuspa0107.jpg

http://www.skinparasites.com/gallery/nuspa0009.jpg




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Poco Loco
Senior Member

Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-27-2003 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poco Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catnip57: Very interesting. I'm going to foreword these to an area Dermatologist who has seen specimens I provided.

Two area MD's have cultured infections possibly originating from contact with the "fallout" materials presented here. I'll keep them informed as well.

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increase 1776
Senior Member


Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-27-2003 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for increase 1776     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received this e-mail. Subject: FTIR analysis of fibers



Hi,

I met with an FTIR researcher this past Friday. He was very kind and agreed to look at the fibers from skin lesions and to perform Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy on them. This is basically a way of getting a molecular fingerprint of a substance.

He determined that the fibers are composed of cellulose.

The graphs of the lesion fibers and the graph of known cellulose fibers were an identical match. There was no doubt at all. All of the peaks for specific chemical bonds lined up perfectly.

He analyzed several different fibers from three different people with this unknown skin disease. One of the things determined to be cellulose was a "fiberball" or "fuzzball" from a person who has had this disease for many years.

When he sends me the data, I will post it to the Morgellons website. The website will undergo some changes within the next few weeks to reflect all of the new info.

Here is some basic info on FTIR:

"By interpreting the infrared absorption spectrum, the chemical bonds in a molecule can be determined. FTIR spectra of pure compounds are generally so unique that they are like a molecular "fingerprint". While organic compounds have very rich, detailed spectra, inorganic compounds are usually much simpler. For most common materials, the spectrum of an unknown can be identified by comparison to a library of known compounds"
FTIR - Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy http://www.wcaslab.com/tech/tbftir.htm

He did not have to search long for a match, just a few seconds. The graph of the skin fibers was similar to the graph of starch, but identical to the cellulose graph.

I had been told by another researcher that this was cellulose, but my jury was still out. This cinches it for me, but still leaves the obvious question:

What in Hades is making this cellulose?
Mary

PS
I suggest to those of you who doubt this finding, consider finding an FTIR lab who will analyze a few of these fibers from you. They will likely charge a fee, but it may give you good information for your own individual situation, which will help our entire group. Please do not use fibers from your environment, no matter how suspicous they are. Please be certain they have come out of your skin.












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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-28-2003 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just read the last two posts here and thought I should take a look at what Cellulose is. Here are a couple of sites I found while doing a google search.


http://www.sbu.ac.uk/water/hycel.html

Source:
Cellulose is found in plants as microfibrils (2-20 nm diameter and 100 - 40 000 nm long). These form the structurally strong framework in the cell walls. Cellulose (1. E460)is mostly prepared from wood pulp

Functionality:

Cellulose has many uses as an anticake agent, emulsifier, stabilizer, dispersing agent, thickener, and gelling agent but these are generally subsidiary to its most important use of holding on to water. Dry amorphous cellulose absorbs water becoming soft and flexible. Some of this water is non-freezing but most is simply trapped. Less water is bound by direct hydrogen bonding if the cellulose has high crystallinity but some fibrous cellulose products can hold on to considerable water in pores and its typically straw-like cavities; water holding ability correlating well with the amorphous (surface area effect) and void fraction (i.e. the porosity). As such water is supercoolable, this effect may protect against ice damage. Cellulose can give improved volume and texture particularly as a fat replacer in sauces and dressings but its insolubility means that all products will be cloudy.
1. Swelled bacterial cellulose (ex. Acetobacter xylinum) exhibits pseudoplastic viscosity like xanthan gels but this viscosity is not lost at high temperatures and low shear rates as the cellulose can retain its structure. Where individual cellulose strands are surrounded by water they are flexible and do not present contiguous hydrophobic surfaces.

http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e26/26a.htm

1. Cellulose is composed of linear chains of covalently linked glucose residues. It is very stable chemically and extremely insoluble. In the primary cell wall consists one glucose polymer of roughly 6000 glucose units, in the secondary wall is their number increased to 13 - 16000 units. Cellulose chains form crystalline structures called microfibrils. A microfibril with a diameter of 20 - 30 nm contains about 2000 molecules.
Crystalline and non-crystalline sections alternate. In crystalline ones forms the cellulose three-dimensional lattices due to the formation of the highest possible number of hydrogen bonds. This high degree of organization is not achieved in the other sections, called paracrystalline. Crystals polarize light. By studying cellulose between crossed polarisators can the main orientation of the microfibrils be determined. In the primary wall do they occur in every possible orientation (disperse texture). During the development of the secondary wall are they deposited in layers (as lamellas). The microfibrills of each layer are parallel to each other (parallel texture). Their orientation changes from layer to layer. Often, especially in very strong cell walls (like those of cotton) are the microfibrills arranged screw-like around the cell's axis. In such cases changes the turning angle from layer to layer (screw-like texture).

I thought it was most interesting the part that talked about cellulose having the ability to absorb water... It made me wonder... could it perhaps be another thing they’re using to control rainfall?

quote:
While organic compounds have very rich, detailed spectra, inorganic compounds are usually much simpler. For most common materials, the spectrum of an unknown can be identified by comparison to a library of known compounds"


It will be most interesting to find out if indeed this cellulose comes from an organic source. Which causes me to ask the question... if it’s not an organic source what’s the source of this material? Who’s making it ?

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Poco Loco
Senior Member

Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-29-2003 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poco Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were to name a Lab and technician who has failed to respond, which of you would be willing to e-mail a note of support?

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 04-29-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be interested in contacting the lab and asking why no response...

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-29-2003 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd sure take a moment to encourage the lab to get back to you, Poco. On the other hand, you might be better served by people who are willing to get involved... Somebody on this board has to know somebody with the credentials and equipment for a solid analysis....?

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-30-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Poco... if you need some more people to send an e-mail to that lab I'd be happy to send them a letter. It's sad to say this but there seems to be a reacurring problem with labs being willing and or punctual about doing analysis on these unknown specimens that chemtrail activists send in.

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Poco Loco
Senior Member

Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-30-2003 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poco Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Specimens were accepted by a State Forensic Crime Lab this afternoon. After a few days I'll let everyone know how to contact their technician.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-01-2003 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poco Loco... I think that the small fibrils are the same thing as loookinup's "sky sparklies". Without scientific confirmation, I guess there is no way to determine if the fibrils are the same substance as the looonngggg strands that mark sky has done so much research on.

As far as seeing the small stuff,I'm with chem11. They are almost invisible to the naked eye, but not quite. I can see them on reflective surfaces. Car windshields are covered with the stuff. And it doesn't wash off. It can be seen on the outside of windows, and some metal surfaces. I can also see the colors of the fibrils in bright sunlight.
(Anybody remember the post from mark sky a few years ago on Mutant Women? I have very good color vision!)

For anyone who is new to this topic, here is an interesting thread from Carnicom's board:
http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=52.topic

Also:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000972-2.html

mark sky's thread is very long, but well worth the read, including visiting the linkds he has provided. There is info on the long webstrands as well as the fibrils.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-01-2003 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the ez board link pen posted....
quote:
looookinup wrote: <microfilaments 'fibers'! They are NOT fibers. One look under a microscope
will confirm they have NOTHING TO DO with fibers--fibers/lint look like
dusty, twisted bundles of ropes under magnification-- and it discredits the
material because sheeple automatically assume "oh, lint". Lint NOT!

Manufactured, flattish, extruded, barbed, thorned, translucent,
electroreactive filaments completely invisible EXCEPT under long-tube
ultraviolet light.


How many here have tried the black light experiment to see if anything could be found? I haven't owned a black light since the 70's, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I was wondering about picking one up to try to see any of these fibrils or filiments or if it would be a waste of time. It seems to me that without a microscope it would be hard to determine what your seeing with a black light.

I will also volunteer to send an inquiry email to a lab if you think it is necessary to light a fire under them.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-01-2003 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patents search using the keywords fibril & cellulose gave me this:

Encapsulation of discrete quanta of fluorescent particles -
US Patent # 6,528,165 March/2003

...Cellulose Encapsulation
Approximately 1073 grams of tertiary amine oxide such as N-methylmorpholine-N-oxide in water (76% NMMO, 24% H.sub.2 O), 16 g of cellulose (DP=625, 5% moisture content) and 1.5 g stabilizer, e.g., gallic acid propyl ester, are prepared in a container and heated to above 72.degree. C. This solution is stirred for approximately 15 minutes and about 100 g of water is then separated under vacuum. After water removal step a clear cellulose solution is obtained. Alternatively, 554 g of NMMO/water mixture (83% NMMO), 0.8 g stabilizer and 11.3 g cellulose are prepared in a container and heated to approx. 95.degree. C. while being stirred simultaneously. After approximately 30 to 60 minutes a cellulosic solution is obtained. In this procedure it is no longer necessary to separate the water.
Fluorescent microparticles are added to cellulose solution containing a sufficient amount of cellulose so that encapsulated solid particles during dispersion exhibit at least a monomolecular layer of cellulose over the entire surface. Encapsulated microparticles are then formed from the liquid dispersion by spraying method as disclosed for example in U.S. Pat. No. 5,895,795, incorporated herein by way of reference. The viscosity of cellulose plays a role so that it is possible to control the shape of the discrete microcapsules by adjusting the viscosity, e.g., by varying the concentration of the cellulose employed. Also by means of other additives the form of the particles obtained during the spray process can be influenced. Thus, it is possible to produce discrete shell-coated particles with a spherical, granular, rod-like shape, etc. ...

US Patent # 6528165

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Poco Loco
Senior Member

Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003

posted 05-02-2003 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poco Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work everyone. I think we may be getting somewhere. There's something all of you can do to help me.

We have a great local AM station that is open to discussing chemtrails and just about any controversial topic you can think of. I brought up the recent microphotographs day before yesterday and directed listeners to Chemtrail Central. There are many "wide awake" listeners in this stations audience. The program I want to bring to your attention is from 8 to 9AM Pacific Standard Time. This morning started out with the first clear blue sky in a month; it has rained the entire month of April here on the Oregon Coast. The "Springer" salmon are running and everyone was excited to have a nice day. Nice up until about 8:30AM that is. I called to inform doubting listeners that they could step outside and view a single massive chemtrail from horizon to horizon. The host, the stations "meterologist" was starting his first day with a new talk show. HE WASN'T SURE WHAT I MENT BY A CHEMTRAIL! I no sooner hung up than the next caller informed the audience I am a fool. "Just contrails and mares tails we've been seeing for years, chemtrails are a hoax" he informed the audience. The host let it go at that even though I had described the "Control the Weather by 2025" agenda, told of aerosol patents, and told the audience where they could inform themselves about this beyond speculation activity.

It would be great if some of you would call in tomorrow (usually there is no wait) and confirm this activity is real and well understood. I really would value the support. The station is KWRO, AM-630 in Coquille, Oregon. The phone number is (541) 396-2141. That's 8 to 9 AM, PST.

BTW, the blue sky was gone by 11AM. Rain is forecast for tomorrow. You could cut the fallout with a knife!

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-04-2003 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note to FLKook
definately get the "equipment"
At Radio Shack they have the 20 Watt Flouresesent Black lite for 30$
I got mine on sale for 20$
Do not get the incandesent "light bulb" type
because they have the wrong wave lenght
and you wont see anything
Then hop over to the "Dollar Store" for a 1$ hand lens.
The plastic two lens 5X plus 5X lens is pretty good and much better than the larger "reading lens"
They are used for looking at bugs "Entomology"
Then over to K Mart for a plastic rapted black tee shirt (check shirt for fibrils with light after opening, then don the shirt,
and go outside to "collect samples"
let us know how "colorful" the shirt gets
PS, don't forget to look at the inside of the shirt with the black light as soon as you take it out of the bag, and after you wear it...


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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2003 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do Mark. I would have just run out and got the cheapest bulb I could find, (clue as to my fiscal mindset) Won't be able to run this experiment till probably next weekend. Will let you know how it turns out.

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increase 1776
Senior Member


Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000

posted 05-06-2003 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for increase 1776     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more patent number worth reading #631



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United States Patent 6,315,213
Cordani November 13, 2001

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Method of modifying weather


Abstract
A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain.


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Inventors: Cordani; Peter (1374 N. Killian Dr., Lake Park, FL 33403)
Appl. No.: 598660
Filed: June 21, 2000

Current U.S. Class: 239/2.1; 239/14.1; 252/194
Intern'l Class: A01G 015/00
Field of Search: 239/2.1,14.1 252/194

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References Cited [Referenced By]

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U.S. Patent Documents
2903188 Sep., 1959 Hutchinson 239/2.
3608810 Sep., 1971 Kooser 239/2.
3659785 May., 1972 Nelson et al. 239/2.
3690552 Sep., 1972 Plump et al. 239/14.
3896993 Jul., 1975 Serpolay 239/12.
4096005 Jun., 1978 Slusher 149/18.
4600147 Jul., 1986 Fukuta et al. 239/14.
5174498 Dec., 1992 Popovitz-Biro 239/2.
5357865 Oct., 1994 Mather 102/361.
5441200 Aug., 1995 Rovella, II 239/2.

Primary Examiner: Anthony; Joseph D.
Attorney, Agent or Firm: McHale & Slavin, P.A.

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Claims

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What is claimed is:

1. A method for artificially modifying weather by seeding a rain cloud comprising:

forming an aqueous solidifier material capable of retaining over three hundred times its own weight in water, wherein said aqueous solidifier material is a cross-linked aqueous based polymer; dispersing said material into a suitable cloud formation, wherein the wind generated by the storm causes said solidifier to mix with rain to form a gel like substance;

said gel like substance being of sufficient weight to precipitate to the surface below thereby diminishing the velocity of the cloud.

2. The method of claim 1 wherein said dispersion of aqueous solidifier is from an aircraft traversing the cloud.

3. The method of claim 1 wherein said dispersion of aqueous solidifier is from the surface below.

4. The cross-linked aqueous polymer of claim 1 wherein said polymer is a cross-linked modified polyacrylamides.

5. The cross-linked polymer of 1 wherein said material is between 50 and 4000 microns.

6. The method of claim 1 wherein the amount of said aqueous solidifier needed is precalculated based upon the size of the storm and the absorption properties of said aqueous solidifier.

7. The methods of claim 1 wherein said aqueous solidifier is biodegradable and nonhazardous.
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Description

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FIELD OF THE INVENTION

This invention relates generally to weather modification and in particular to the use of polymers to absorb aqueous solutions capable of modifying a weather situation.

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

Hurricanes, tropical storms, typhoons, and the like weather patterns can cause severe damage to land, buildings, and living creatures. The resulting damage from even an isolated event can be billions of dollars as evidenced by Hurricane Andrew.

Cloud seeding is a known process for artificially modifying the weather by injecting a composition into a cloud for formation of an ice freezing nuclei. Silver iodide is a well known substance used for cloud seeding. Ice freezing nuclei have the effect of creating rain, reducing hail, and possibly preventing rain by overseeding.

U.S. Pat. No. 5,174,498 discloses a cloud seeding material useful for seeding supercooled clouds in order to augment rainfall. The material used in seeding is defined as a aliphatic long-chain alcohol.

U.S. Pat. No. 4,600,147 discloses a cloud seeding method of inserting liquid propane from a rocket. The liquid propane is used to generate large numbers of ice crystals in supercooled clouds.

U.S. Pat. No. 5,357,865 discloses yet another method of cloud seeding. This invention includes the use of a pyrotechnic composition such as potassium chlorate or potassium perchlorate which act as nuclei for precipitable water drop formation.

U.S. Pat. No. 4,096,005 discloses a pyrotechnic cloud seeding composition comprising silver iodate and a fuel from the consisting of aluminum and magnesium.

Thus, the prior art teachings are directed to methods of creating rain. What is lacking in the art is a method of lessening the wind velocities of a storm.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

The instant application discloses a method of modifying weather by seeding storm clouds with a polymer. The storm clouds are seeded by dispersing a superabsorbent polymer into the cloud in sufficient quantities to cause a large absorption of water. The reaction of the water with the polymer creates a gel-like substance that precipitates to the surface. Thus, causing an internal constriction with the cloud to lessen storm velocities.

A superabsorbent polymer is a resin capable of absorbing water up to several thousands times as its own weight. These superabsorbent polymers are prepared from water-soluble polymers, but have cross-linking structures which render the polymers water-insoluble. By taking water-soluble ethylenically unsaturated monomers which readily undergo vinyl polymerizaton, such as acrylamide, with the use of cross linking agents, a polymer can be produced that is of uniform small size, has a high gel capacity, is highly insoluble, but highly water swellable i.e. a superabsorbent polymer. (Gel capacity refers to the property of the water swollen polymer to resist viscosity changes as a result of mechanical working or milling.)

Superabsorbent polymers can be dehydrated to a powder. When the powder is added to an aqueous solution and agitated, the polymer is able to absorb many times its weight of the water molecules and a gel-like substance is formed. Superabsorbent polymers are particularly suited for uses where rapid sorption of aqueous fluid is desired or for uses where the swelling properties in water are employed.

Accordingly, it is an objective of the instant invention to present a method for artificially modifying weather wherein a polymer is used to cause wind dissipation by heaving weighting condensation with the clouds.

It is another objective of the instant invention to present a method for seeding a rain cloud with a cross-linked polymer such that the wind of the storm provides the agitation for the reaction of the polymer with the water.

It is an additional objective of the instant invention to present a method for modifying storms such that the solid end product is biodegradable and nonhazardous.

Other objectives and advantages of this invention will become apparent from the following description wherein are set forth, by way of example, certain embodiments of this invention.

DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE INVENTION

It is to be understood that while a certain form of the invention is illustrated, it is not to be limited to the specific form or arrangement of parts herein described and shown. It will be apparent to those skilled in the art that various changes may be made without departing from the scope of the invention and the invention is not to be considered limited to what is shown and described in the specification and drawings.

The present invention relates to a method for artificially modifying weather by solidifying portions of a cloud in a storm such as a hurricane, by introducing polymers into the cloud. This method utilizes "superabsorbent" aqueous based polymers, preferably cross linked modified polyacrylamides which can be used in any application where aqueous solidification is permissible. An example of a superabsorbent aqueous based polymer is manufactured by JRM Chemical Inc. under the trademark H-series.

In the present invention, a solid form of the superabsorbent polymer, such as a powder, is introduced into the rain clouds of a storm in a suitable manner, for instance a aircraft may traverse the storm and release the polymer seeds or they may be released from a seeding flare delivered from the surface or from an aircraft. The amount of polymer needed is predetermined based upon the size and severity of the storm along with the absorption capacity of the polymer used. The wind of the storm provides the agitation that causes the polymer to bind with the water forming a gel-like substance. As a result of this method, wind based water storms can be artificially modified.

The use of a biodegradable polymer allows for safe use of the ocean wherein the high salinity of the water will expedite the degradation of the material. Various biodegradable superabsorbent polymers include carboxy-methylcellulose, alginic acid, cross-linked starches, cross-linked polyamino acids and a cross-linked modified polyacrylamides.

In a dry state the preferred polymer may be considered a particle having a diameter less than 4000 microns but greater than 50 microns. In a swollen state the particle may have a diameter greater than three hundred times its weight. In a totally water-swollen state, the particles contain up to about 99.98 weight percent of water and a little as about 0.1 weight percent of polymer. Thus, such particles could hold from ten to thousands of times their own weight. By seeding a leading edge of a violent storm, such as a hurricane, the winds cause a mix of the material wherein moisture is absorbed by the material causing a shearing effect. The shearing effect causes the polymers to absorb, lose, and reabsorb water countless times. During this exchange, the weight of the water being transferred allowing for wind shearing that assists in lessening the velocity of the wind.

The shearing forces are affected by the nature of the interactions between the particles during such collisions. When attractive forces dominate, the particles will aggregate and the dispersion may destabilize.

Example: A hurricane is seeded with approximately 30,000 lbs of a superabsorbent aqueous based polymer by use of a transport plane flying through the leading edge of the storm. Within twenty seconds the polymer will obtain over 70 percent of its absorption capacity or nearly three hundred times its weight. The winds of the storm will continue to disperse the materials causing a form of internal flocculation disrupting the feeding nature of the storm. When presented close to land, the storm will not have sufficient time to reform to its previous strength.

It is to be understood that while I have illustrated and described certain forms of my invention, it is not to be limited to the specific forms herein described. It will be apparent to those skilled in the art that various changes may be made without departing from the scope of the invention and the invention is not to be considered limited to what is shown in the drawings and described in the specification.


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Poco Loco
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Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003

posted 05-06-2003 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poco Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like AEROGEL doesn't it.

"in a swolen state the particle may have a diameter greater than three hundred times its weight"

Huh?

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increase 1776
Senior Member


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604 posts, Oct 2000

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Found this web site tonight.http://www.eastlundscience.com/patentsa.html Looks like alot of good reading,might want to check out.A lot of patents we can relate to.for example "Method and Apparatus For Creating an Artificial Electron Cyclotron Heating Region of Plasma", and Method and Apparatus For Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere, and/or Magnetosphere

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The latest from Larry Meyer, captured on black cloth, videomicrophotograph at 60x.


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Continuing to keep this thread updated; the following were taken with an Intel Video Microscope at 60x, on June 6/03, Central Oregon Coast, by Larry Meyer.



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This one taken at 200x ~

and this one at 300x ~

Larry, have you heard anything further regarding the samples you sent in for analysis?

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