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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-09-2003 02:54 PM
   
5445 views and counting several hundred per day...naw no interest at all...wish the lurky loo would speak up 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-10-2003 12:22 AM
PM=Private Message--right below Help Desk on main forums page when you are logged in you will see Messages...check that area out 
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-11-2003 11:46 PM
Dr. Burton, Medical Toxicologist, advised me today he will be unable to help! My personal physician advises Dr. Simpson considered the possibility this matter is all in my head. Remember that he "couldn't see the fibrils at 100x"; the same ones shown at the beginning of this thread, photographed at 60x.I think I am back at square one. Wish I had some of the time and money back.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-12-2003 09:00 AM
That is crap poco!! Did Dr. Burton give a reason as to why he was UNABLE to help!!??
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emfx13
Moderator
Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002
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posted 07-12-2003 11:17 AM
That does bite!!sorry to hear this poco.
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
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736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 07-12-2003 02:39 PM
emfx13Email not working. Suggest contact via members email here. ST
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-12-2003 09:19 PM
What a crock? I'm getting so tired of getting the same old run around with physicians and chemical analysits. Don't any of them have even a shread of curiosity in this mattter... are they all so blind? Sorry but I've seen this attitude too much now from those that are supposed to be able to help and it just makes me soooooo mad. So now that I've blown off some steam... don't give up Poco... there has to be some doctor or somebody out there that is willing to go the distance in finding out what these materials are. There just has to be. Don't ever think you've wasted your time or money either... You've been very brave and motivated to go as far as you have. You've run into the proverbial "brick wall"... like a few of us around here have. I have too many stories of disappointment myself and they would take too long to retell here.
Would it help for a few more of us to talk to these physicians and let them know of our concerns? Or are they going to jump all over you for handing out their phone numbers? Sheesh!
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 12:07 AM
Thanks for the words of encouragment. I really think calls to Vicky Bode at the Tucson PD Forensic Lab and to MD's Simpson and Burton might help. They all need to know a large group wants answers.Really would like to have one of you articulate members impress upon Vicky Bode at Tucson PD that a serious crime is involved. If these people are doing their job, they already know what the unknown is simply because it is contaminating everything. It's everywhere, certainly including their crime scenes. Has anyone checked with Will Thomas or Dr. Begich for input?
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-13-2003 12:53 AM
Poco.. have you tried to contact some of the uncontrolled media like Coast to Coast: George Norray or maybe even Jeff Rense with your information about the fibrils? Along with pictures and also the responses you've received so far from the people you've tried to get help from?.... These two individuals might be able to put you in contact with a physician or lab that is willing to look at your specimens. Or they might know people who can at least help to accomplish that goal.Another thing I should ask here.. Have you thought about sending some of those fibril samples to the Morgellons foundation? Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a match with what they are finding in patients with the skin rashes and similar disorders.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-13-2003 05:23 PM
http://www.rense.com/general39/chem.htm Hey Poco... way to go! You were planning to do this all along now weren't you 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-13-2003 11:56 PM
Interesting Mars developments happening... 
Glassy Martian Rock Fungus
http://www.marslife.com/glassies.htm http://www.marslife.com/predict.htm Hopefully Mike will let me know the magnification of these pics.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-14-2003 12:08 AM
Up to 7171 views now Larry...that's a lot of views in the past 4 days, especially today. Thanks to Kim for bringing this to Jeff's attention
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-14-2003 12:11 AM
WOW and the most popular thread on the entire site here!! Beats out the others by a landslide.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/popular.cgi Good one Catnip and thank you Mr. Rense
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-14-2003 12:39 AM
Glad I could help out here...
This topic is really getting interesting now... I just got through visiting some of the pictures at the Mars life web site... Wow!
Looks like we're connecting a few dots here hopefully. Maybe we should get some more information from the gentelman who has grown some of these "creatures" in the petri dishes.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-14-2003 08:53 AM
Agreed Catnip! Good to explore various possibilities on the unexplained fibrils. I am waiting to hear back from him (micromike), and hope to get as much information as I can regarding his very interesting pictures!
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-14-2003 09:29 AM
Larry, have you considered sending a specimen to Mike Castle?? quote:
My background is that of a Professional Chemist, specifically a Polymer Chemist.
http://www.rense.com/general39/vat.htm quote:
I read and observed with much interest the recent micro-photo's sent to me by Kim Weber of the Polymer filaments recovered off the South Oregon Coast. This same group of photo's and article appeared on your web-site.
You are accurate in the comments regarding Clifford Carnicom's study and investigation of these materials. I have also been looking at this strange aerosolized filament technology for about three years. What I have found, after receiving samples retrieved around Seattle, WA., is a cationic reaction polymer that has an unidentified bio-active material within it. My first opinion is that this is the biological control agents released by the Federal DEA to destroy and further control marijuana growing across the United States and certain portions of Canada. We have found that these bio-control agents are genetically mutated fungal forms that have been mutated with viruses and they purportedly find and kill any plants containing THC, the active ingredient.
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 10:20 AM
Lulu: I communicated with Mike Castle (Ohio) several years ago when the very first fibrils (different from todays materials) were common. If memory serves me, he was involved in getting these into CDC licensed labs. This was about the time they started to refuse samples for analysis. I believe at this time a lab identified Human Parvo or other pathogens in a specimen and that brought everything to a halt. Mike dropped out of the picture shortly thereafter according to my contacts at the time. I'm very pleased to see him active again.A longwavelength ultraviolet light source and a low power binocular microscope will allow anyone to collect specimens for analysis. It's everywhere, even on the surface of our paper money....under the ink! Mark Sky can provide a microphotograph of same.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-14-2003 12:49 PM
Quote:We do know that these polymers are of a crystalline morphology, are very friable and break into millions of small fragments in the atmosphere, are inhaled and in some cases are bio-active causing serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin. The filaments are lyophillic or are oil soluble (upper epidermis oils melt the polymer fragments and are absorbed into the skin).Hmmm...I read this from Mike's post and now I'm wondering... is this the same thing that is causing and or contributing to Morgellon's (Elliot's) disease? I wonder what these fibrils are doing to our lungs...with all the concern about GM plants ... what does this stuff do to our DNA? Is anyone else starting to feel like a lab rat here?
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ohwarriorgoddess
New Member
14 posts, Jun 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 02:31 PM
Mike Castle's email: ekimcastle@yahoo.com
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 07:34 PM
What is human parvo? and emfx mentioned something about the fibers looking metal, a magnet would probaly tell you if anyone can get more samples.
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-15-2003 12:49 AM
Prof: Parvo is a nasty viral disease similar to that common in canine. Opaque black somewhat metallic looking fibrils are not magnetic.Group: You would think (at least I did) that taking this stuff to Oregon Health & Science University at the referral of a top dermatologist would yield more than the following from their recommended medical toxicologist, Dr. Burton: "Larry, Dr. Burton said you need to call the Company that is producing this mystery chemical to find out what the name is. Also, if it is an enviromental release, you can call the DMV. Otherwise Dr. Burton can not help you. Good luck." Hey, that's the ticket, we can simply call the company thats producing the mystery chemical! God help us!
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-15-2003 03:04 AM
LOL... ha!... maybe you could ask them for some suggestions as to which company they THINK is making this stuff. If we knew the company we wouldn't be asking them for their help... what a run around!
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When I was doing a bit of research for the topic about the School kids with the rashes I ran into some information about Parvo in humans. It is somehow linked to another childhood disease called fifth’s, which is not that uncommon. It is quite contagious. Here is a link you can read to learn more.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/parvo/parvovirus.html
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-15-2003 02:33 PM
>>Larry, Dr. Burton said you need to call the Company that is producing this mystery chemical to find out what the name is.<<Yeah, right! What a joke Larry...too unbelievable!! MicroMike says the pics of glassies were taken 40 to 45 power with stereo zoom microscope. He seems like a nice guy.
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ratman
New Member
Grapevine, Republic of Texas
2 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-19-2003 07:12 PM
Hello again,
I emailed Lulu last week to ask some questions concerning chemtrails. I don't know if she happened to pass them on to those of you who are studying the "fallout" or not. So I will ask the same questions or some similar. Now also, we here in the Republic of Texas (yes the Republic) have had an ongoing discussion as to whether or not there was something actually of substance to the chemtrails reports. Now it appears that there is. However, down here, in places such as Dallas, and Houston, there has never been anything said about the items you seem to have discovered up there on the Oregon and Washington coasts. Only discussion has been about what sorts of stuff they been spraying and what kinds of aircraft they have been using in the process. Some black helicopters have been observed for instance. I unfortunately have to say that I have wandered around staring at the sky like a turkey looking for thunder on occasion looking at contrails wondering whether or not they were actually chemtrails or just normal aircraft contrails at any old time of the year.
Subsequent to my reading of this forum, I thought to ask..... what kinds of studies have you done to these "creatures" that you have caught on ballpoint pen points and in plastic baggies? It is one thing to just say they crawl around, grab at or bite at your fingers etc. but it is another to actually subject them to scientific scrutiny. Have you tried burning these substances to see whether or not they will burn as with a match, bunson burner flame, etc? How do they react to acid, (HCl, H2SO4) stuff like that? Have you done anything like that or subjected it to study the composition of the substances to see of what it is comprised and therefore have an idea as to what it is likely to be and as suggested by the "learned ones" to subsequently ask after who makes the stuff why they are doing so?
Ratman
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-19-2003 11:36 PM
I don't know about anything biting for say but we have been exposed although not since last november. I did however pick up a couple news stories about the same incident happening in Texas right around the same time. I'm particularly talking about the web strands. I have had exposure but not in the physical sense unless there were particles small enough to inhale, this stuff was everywhere and at first I didn't think anything of it until my neighbors thought it odd. Spiders in my area don't balloon in the winter time so I don't buy that story. We were experimented on by biological gelatin material that when tested by a few locals up in Oakville Washington there were known to be a celluler structure that contained blood cells. Other than speculation and from whats already been determined I can't tell you much more. The stuff I saw was thicker than a spider"s webbing also.
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