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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-20-2003 11:27 AM
   
Hi Ratman, Glad you made it in OK. I was waiting for you to ask your questions. I'm not sure what tests poco loco, or other members have tried on the fibrils.Prof, wonder if that's the same spider problem mark sky has? 
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-20-2003 12:39 PM
This would be an appropriate time for Mike Castle to comment.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-20-2003 06:20 PM
Well under the circumstances I'm willing to take a bet were talking about the same events probaly around the same time, not else out there to explain it.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-21-2003 02:51 AM
Just got through visiting Rense.com and found this most interesting update to the filament research. I must say the fibrils that were originally posted at this forum by Poco are looking more suspicious than ever. Here’s the link from Rense.com and a few quotes from the Morgellons site. They have some excellent pictures posted there.
http://www.morgellons.org/index.html The Morgellons Research Foundation is a grassroots organization, dedicated to finding the cause of an increasingly prevalent skin disease of unknown origin. The greatest number of reports of this disease, to our foundation, have come from California, Texas, and Florida.
This skin disease is believed to be caused by an organism which has been difficult to identify. We are attempting to isolate this organism and determine how it is able to cause the intense itching, stinging and disfiguring skin lesions which are the main symptoms of this disease.
The most striking feature of this disease is the presence of fiber-like objects as well as clear filament-like objects of unknown origin within skin lesions. The filaments and various fiber-like objects are considered to be the major clues to the cause of this skin disease.
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A working hypothesis is subject to change as research continues and facts emerge. Objective scientists form new hypotheses when old ones are no longer supported by current research findings.
Physicians and scientists are beginning to investigate the lesions of people with this disease. The fibers from the lesions are being studied to determine their origin.
This foundation has received no funding and has done this research based on the kindness of scientists, laboratories, physicians, and concerned individuals.
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How can be these unknown fibers be described?
The unknown fibers associated with skin lesions can be described as coenocytic (aseptate), smooth-walled, branching, filamentous objects. The fibers have been analyzed by FTIR (Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy) and have been identified as cellulose. Since true fungi are not able to synthesize cellulose, we are currently focused on the Oomycetes class of fungus-like organisms.
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-23-2003 12:31 AM
For what it's worth, I've been informed there is a facility at Tucson, Arizona set up to collect atmospheric particles down to 2.5 microns to be sent to Triangle Park, S.C. (maybe N.C.) for analysis.Evergreen appears to have a fleet of modified Boeing 707's at their Evergreen Air Park (formerly Marana Air Park) located minutes n/w of Tucson. Do we have a contact in Tucson? Hey Mike Castle, cat got your tongue?
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 07-23-2003 01:04 AM
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-23-2003 12:31 PM
Morgellions said "Since true fungi are not able to synthesize cellulose, we are currently focused on the Oomycetes class of fungus-like organisms."I can tell you that "the Oomycetes class of fungus-like organisms" includes organisms known as "water molds" such as Pythium and Phytopthora. The recently identified "Sudden Oak Death" pathogen has been named Phytopthora Ramorum. It acts like no previous Phytopthora, in being spread by airborn spores, AND effecting unrelated plant species such as, Bay Laural, Big leaf Maple,Buckeye,Redwood, Douglas Fir, Coffeeberry,Huckleberry, Honeysuckle, Madrone,Manzanita, Rhododendron, Toyon, Camellia, and of course all kinds of Oaks.
We noticed these plants dieing locally maybe 7 years BEFORE we ever noticed chemtrails.
Officially the disease was noticed about the same time as chemtrails were unofficially noticed.
PS "water molds" are so named because they were always associated as a water born disease~ not transmitted via air
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-28-2003 11:25 AM
Here is an interesting tidbit. A person I know recieved about 20 mosquito bites on their legs. 3 of these swollen bites had black "specks" in them, right in the center.
Looking with a 10X hand lens, they were found to be fibriles. Dark (almost black) blue. One was a tangle of threads, one was a sincle fibril. It resisted (bent away from) the tweezers. All this was after a bit of "scraching at the bites". There did not seem to be fibrils anywhere else on the legs.
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increase 1776
Senior Member
Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 07-28-2003 04:22 PM
I'd check into Evergreen Air before doing business with Howard Hughes old Company.These guys are not the ones to do any serious research,especially if you're paying the way.Just do a background check first.Have a couple of people check into the Company. I remember the Univ. of Wash. has the necessary planes and equipment from their weather studies.
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 07-28-2003 06:02 PM
Mark: That's an amazing story of the mosquito, fibril connection. And just how may I ask, did the masters of evil manage that one? There's just no end to the wonders of this evil world. The resistance by the fibril sounds like alien implants I've read about. 
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-28-2003 10:11 PM
Hi Jeanie~ it appears that it would not be too hard to do
see page three of http://www.davismosquito.org/mosquitoes/mosquitoes.htm
"House Mosquitoes also serve as vectors of filariasis in tropical areas of the world."
the link i like the most is this one
http://web.ksl.com/dump/tv/stories/Jun98/file17134246.htm
it draws the connection between the "wetlands" of Salt Lake City Utah and 5 million mosquitos per acre
the wetlands of salt lake city?
have you ever been to salt lake city?
did you see their famouse "wetlands"?
i hear they are more fantastic than the wetlands in Death Valley
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-28-2003 10:34 PM
never one to hide
see for yourself http://morgellons.org/Microscopes.html
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
x
736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 07-29-2003 12:04 AM
 This stylish and innovative computer microscope harnesses the power of your PC, to encourage creative exploration of the world around you. State-of-the-art video imaging provides a new view of your environment at magnifications up to 200X. The microscope consists of a base stand and a detachable microscope with USB cable attached. There are two light sources, one in the sample platform tray and another in the microscope itself. The digital camera and illumination lamps draw their power from the USB port, so no external power source is required. The bundled software package provides an easy-to-use interface with excellent graphics and audio clips. Capture single images, make movies and perform time-lapse photography with a single click of your mouse. You can even share your discoveries with friends via e-mail.
One of but many examples of what this microscope can do. Great find Poco Loco !
http://www.jdr.com/interact/item.asp?itemno=PGB-270101&promo=2187
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-29-2003 12:10 AM
poco loco "found" it
i am just the slow learner
willing to buy it
harrpy hunting
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suckingeggs
Senior Member
344 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 07-30-2003 08:38 AM
Perhaps a Heteropolymer System?The Heteropolymer System: "Biological Double-Sided Tape" EluSys' Heteropolymer System is a monoclonal antibody-based technology designed to enable the body to use its own red blood cells to efficiently remove and destroy a wide variety of blood-borne pathogens, toxins and autoantibodies. The HP System uses a proprietary bi-specific monoclonal antibody (the Heteropolymer) that binds both to the target pathogen and to red blood cells like a piece of biological double-sided tape. The red blood cells carry the Heteropolymer-pathogen complex to the liver, where it is destroyed. The HP System can be engineered to be active against anything that circulates in the bloodstream. The HP System is modified slightly for autoimmune diseases: Instead of two monoclonal antibodies that are chemically attached, one monoclonal antibody is linked to an antigen that stimulates the immune system to produce the target autoantibody. The Antigen-Heteropolymer (AHP) binds the autoantibody to red blood cells for removal and destruction in the liver. Preclinical studies have shown that AHPs can remove from the blood antibodies similar to those produced in people with SLE. The AHP agent under study, ETI-104, is a monoclonal antibody to a receptor on the red blood cell cross-linked to double-stranded DNA. Experiments demonstrate that the HP System can clear even substantial levels of a variety of pathogens and autoantibodies from the bloodstream within an hour. Other experiments have shown that EluSys' Heteropolymers may prevent pathogens from ever reaching appreciable concentrations in the blood when injected before exposure.
http://elusys.com/about_news_pr.php?article=20[/URL]
http://dipc.ehu.es/dipc/Physics_meets_Biology/abstracts.pdf Neutron scattering in soft condensed matter. D. Richter Institut für Festkörperforschung, Forschungszentrum Jülich, Germany The concept of "soft matter" subsumes a large class of molecular materials, including e.g. polymers, thermotropic liquid crystals, micellar solutions, microemulsions and colloidal suspensions, and also includes biological materials, e.g. membranes and vesicles. These substances have a wide range of applications such as structural and packaging materials, foams and adhesives, detergents and cosmetics, paints, food additives, lubricants and fuel additives, rubber in tyres etc. In spite of the various forms of these materials, many of their very different properties have common physicochemical origins such as a large number of internal degrees of freedom, weak interactions between the structural elements and a delicate balance between entropic and enthalpic contributions to the free energy. These properties lead to large thermal fluctuations, a wide variety of forms, sensitivity of the equilibrium structures to external boundary conditions, macroscopic softness and various metastable states. Neutron scattering techniques play a unique role in the study of both the structural and dynamical properties of soft matter systems. Among the advantages presented by these techniques, two are of crucial relevance in the soft matter field: the suitability of the length and time scales accessed by neutrons, and the capability to manipulate the contrast by specific deuteration of any constituent of the system. Neutron scattering is the only tool for unravelling the molecular morphology and motions in soft matter systems at the different relevant length scales. In this talk we will revise some relevant examples of the application of neutron scattering techniques to soft matter systems.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 02:19 PM
We got one of these little scopes yesterday at Radio Shack (they had 3 in stock) for $10
It has a light that lights up the sample, and two knobs to control focus and microscopic magnification. It takes 2 AAA batteries for the light. I picked a "sleeper" out of my eye and it had a red fibril in it, great good morning before coffee. So these things work and are very portable and easy to put in your pocket.
They come with a carrying case.
a very "best Buy"
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 05:45 PM
Mark; Do you have a product number? In case it's not in stock it can be ordered. Thanks
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 11:23 PM
yes it is Radio Shack # 63-1133 [AKA 630-1133] "illuminated microscope"
it claims to be 60X to 100X, but i dont know if it is that good
but you can see the hairs on your arms looking like big timber
while the fibrils are MUCH finer
the whole unit is about 1" X 2" X 31/2" in size, it seems to be well built by Tasco in china for Radio Shack
you can press it on to your skin and dial it into focus fairly easily
the light is very good at illuminating the area you want to look at
the hard part is the fact that useing microscopes is "backwards" in that your hand wants to move it one way while the thing you want to look at goes the other way
this is true of any microscope
it is best to start at low magnification and center this first
then dial out to a higher magnification
recenter the object and refocus
you just have to get used to it
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-01-2003 12:06 AM
I'm familar with the microscope shown by Sore Throat and can recommend it for our work. It's sold as a toy but is quite suitable for our work. The crude plastic focus rack gear is it's weak spot but the electronics are great and images can be captured and saved directly into your computer from which they can be "sent" and shared.Here is how to use this microscope to show us what your local fallout looks like: 1)Comb your hair using a fine-tined comb for several days.(Walmart cat flea comb, $1.99) 2) Use a toothpick or other sharp pointed tool to carefully remove a almost invisible matted layer of hair and fibrils from the tines close to the body of the comb. It won't look like much until magnified. 3) place this material on a glass microscope slide or any small piece of flat glass and cover this with another piece of flat glass. Window glass will work just fine. 4)This microscope will allow you to select illumination from above or below the subject. Use lower illunination for fibrils. 5) Focus the microscope at 60x and click on the option to save the immage you see. It's really this simple to use this inexpensive scope. Look foreword to seeing what other parts of the Country are dealing with. Be sure to print/send/show what you find to everyone you meet. Let them know it's in their childrens eyes and lungs, on their wash-cloth,imbeded in their pillowcase. Suggest that an astronomical amount of money and jet fuel might be involved in the likely unconstitutional distribution of these probable pathogens. Consider showing what you see to members of your local chapter of Better Breathers. Find them through you local Hospital. (Show it to the Respiratory Department while you're there.) Ask your Chief of Police (The local main man in charge of the protect and serve department) if this might be an act of terrorism and what he bases his answer on. Can't wait to hear/see what you discover.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 09:44 PM
Price and availibility
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I searched the following sites for price and availibility
Toys are Us and Gamestop had the scope for $49.99 with Free Shipping, they were the cheapest, and were in stock for shipping.
www.target.com
www.circuitcity.com
www.compusa.com
www.compuvisor.com
www.jandr.com
www.gamestop.com
www.fao.com
www.toysrus.com
www.hammett.com we also looked at "eyematter" and "lung sputum" this morning with the little $10 Radio Shack unit
YEP~ the threads are there
green, red or black
some of the greens turnned black when focusing the lens
often seen as "chopped" pieces of fairly straight lenghts, or in tightly bundled clumps that resemble dirt unless "teesed" apart with a pin, one had the axulary stubbs where side branches had been connected.
what was interesting is that something that appears to be small scab like blood clumps
or perhaps insect like body parts
accompanies this fibril matter that is inbeded a matrix of mucous
i highly recommend you spend the $50 or $10 for one or both of these tools
both are priced WAY BELOW what they are worth
[Edited 2 times, lastly by mark sky on 08-01-2003]
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bigjoe
Weather Observer
Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-02-2003 02:24 AM
I've been following this thread quite closely since it started a few months ago, and would like to join in and share my observations here from the northeast. I took some samples of dirt from my outside window sills while window cleaning last spring, and looked at these samples under a microscope. Along with the usual dirt from air pollution, and lots of pollen, the samples were loaded with countless round plastic looking spikes, threads and fibers of varying lengths. They were all clear, looked plastic in nature, and there was no doubt that they were artificially created. But I want to stress here that these samples, taken from the outdoors, were LOADED with these plastic fibers. Then, as recommended on this thread, I illuminated various parts of my home with a flourescent, "tube" type of black light, and was shocked by what I saw, as I wasn't quite expecting to see so many of these fibers spread everywhere throughout the inside of my house. Obviously, I did this observation at night, and with all the other lights in the house turned off. But what shocked me the most was just the extent that we are being exposed to these fibers. This stuff is virtually everywhere!!! It was all over me. It was on my clothing, on my skin, on my hair... it was all over the furniture, all over the rugs, the light fixtures... you name it and it was there. And as I reported over at MOD, it was even all over my cats, and their bedding was infested with it. The illumination from the black light makes the fibers seem to light up with a bright glow of their own, almost as if they were glowing from within, so you can't miss them when viewing them this way. And around my home, they ranged from as small as specks, to some which were around and inch or more in length. This stuff appears to be everywhere, and there seems to be no getting away from it. So I'm assuming that we must also be breathing it into our lungs.
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-04-2003 02:24 AM
Bigjoe: Good for you! Hope others will do the same. Two comments: Be aware only about 5% of the fibrils are fluorescent.Makes our situation a little more serious doesn't it? Our Chief of Police thinks the fibrils may be from tire wear on the highway and sees nothing alarming in the sky. I see the need for a new Chief of Police! Early on, specimens fluoressed bright powder blue with an occasional bright orange type under long wave-length illumination. On occasion a blue fiber was found with orange spots. Most of the recent material is inert to both long & short wavelengths.Be sure to try the "Mark Sky Black Tee-shirt Experiment" and get back to us.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-06-2003 09:59 AM
>>Our Chief of Police thinks the fibrils may be from tire wear on the highway and sees nothing alarming in the sky. I see the need for a new Chief of Police!<<LOLOL Poco Loco  Thanks for the 3 new pictures you recently sent my way. When one sees these fibrils next to a human hair, it is quite amazing the small size involved!! 
The large fiber at the top of the photo is human hair. Taken Aug. 5/03 Central Oregon Coast. 
Human hair with unknowns. "Same stuff, different days". Taken Aug. 5/03 Central Oregon Coast. 
Fibrils UV+-4
"An example of the highly fluoressent material. UV+ at long wavelength; very bright light blue. The colored fibrils generally are UV negative. Once one sees the amount of this material in ones home, they will never be the same!" as quoted from Larry Meyer.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-08-2003 03:24 PM
A very interesting mold report, submitted by Larry Meyer, from PRO-LAB/SSPTM INC. Please note that "Fibrils from a pocket comb grew this garden". Thanks you Larry! Keep us posted on any updates/follow-ups please!!THE REPORT with liberty taken to omit Larry's address and phone number. PRO-LAB/SSPTM INC. 3300 Corporate Avenue, Bldg., 112 Toll Free: 800-427-0550 Mold Analysis Report Larry Meyer Test Address: XXXXXXXXXXXX Reedsport, OR 97467 Received Date: 6/25/2003 Weston, Florida 33331 Client: XXXXXXXXXXXX , Reedsport, OR 97467 Direct Microscopic Examination Report Number: 062503-0197 Reported Date: 6/25/2003 Analysis By: SSPTM, Inc. Alyssa Murray, QAQC Your Results The following fungal descriptions are pertinent to the samples collected. General characterization of mold is made with respect to their most common impact to human health. Many genus of molds have species with varying characteristics. Pro-Lab Number: 062503-0197 Date Collected: 6/15/2003 Collection Location: Sample Submitted: Visual Fax: Phone: XXXXXXXXXX Email: GCGEMS@HARBORSIDE.COM Chain of Custody# 0 Comments: Spore Name Description Alternaria EXTREMELY WIDESPREAD AND UBIQUITOUS. OUTDOORS IT MAY BE ISOLATED FROM SAMPLES OF SOIL, SEEDS, AND PLANTS. IT IS COMMONLY FOUND IN OUTDOOR SAMPLES. IT IS OFTEN FOUND IN CARPETS, TEXTILES, AND ON HORIZONTAL SURFACES IN BUILDING INTERIORS. OFTEN FOUND ON WINDOW FRAMES. IT MAY BE RELATED TO BAKERS ASTHMA. IT HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH HYPERSENSITIVITY PNEUMONITI, SINUSITIS, DERATOMYCOSIS, ONYCHOMYCOSIS, SUBCUTANEOUS PHAEOHYPHOMYCOSIS, AND INVASIVE INFECTION. COMMON CAUSE OF EXTRINSIC ASTHMA (IMMEDIATE-TYPE HYPERSENSITIVITY: TYPE I). ACUTE SYMPTOMS INCLUDE EDEMA AND BRONCHIOSPASMS; CHRONIC CASES MAY DEVELOP PULMONARY EMPHYSEMA. REPORTED TO BE ALLERGENIC. Cladosporium COMMONLY FOUND ON DEAD PLANTS, WOODY PLANTS, FOOD, STRAW, SOIL, PAINT AND TEXTILES. COMMON CAUSE OF EXTRINSIC ASTHMA (IMMEDIATE-TYPE HYPERSENSITIVITY: TYPE I). ACUTE SYMPTOMS INCLUDE EDEMA AND BRONCHIOSPASMS; CHRONIC CASES MAY DEVELOP PULMONARY EMPHYSEMA. REPORTED TO BE ALLERGENIC. Epiccocum A COMMON ALLERGEN FOUND IN PLANTS, SOIL, GRAINS, TEXTILES, AND PAPER PRODUCTS. SECONDARY INVADER OF DAMAGED PLANT TISSUE. COMMON CAUSE OF TYPE I ALLERGIES (HAY FEVER, ASTHMA). NO CASES OF INFECTION HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN HUMANS OR ANIMALS. Hyphae PIECES OF FUNGAL ORGANISMS THAT CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED AS TO WHAT GENUS THEY ARE FROM. THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED ALLERGENIC AND ARE INDICATIVE OF ACTIVE GROWTH IN THE SAMPLING VACINITY.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-08-2003 03:26 PM
REPORT continued...The above information was compiled by PRO-LAB/SSPTM Inc. from the EPA "A Brief Guide to Mold, Moisture, and Your Home" and the NYC Dept of Health " Guidelines on Assessment and Remediation of Fungi in Indoor Environments", at the request of and for the exclusive use of the client named on this report. This document is not a legal mandate and should be used for informational purposes only. Currently there are no Federal regulations for evaluating potential health effects of fungal contamination and remediation. This information is subject to change as more information regarding fungal contaminants becomes available. For more information: visit http://www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/index.html or www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/ei/eimold.html. This document was designed to follow currently known industry guidelines for the interpretation of microbial sampling, analysis, and remediation. Since interpretation of mold analysis reports is a scientific work in progress, it may as such be changed at any time without notice. The client is solely responsible for the use and interpretation of these recommended action guidelines. PRO-LAB/SSPTM Inc. makes no express or implied warranties as to such use or interpretation. PRO-LAB/SSPTM Inc. is not able to make and does not make a determination as to the environmental soundness, safety or health of a property from only the samples sent to their laboratory for analysis. The Client is hereby notified that due to the subjective nature of fungal analysis and the mold growth process, laboratory samples can and do change over time relative to the originally sampled material. PRO-LAB/SSPTM Inc. reserves the right to properly dispose of all samples after the testing of such samples are sufficiently completed or after a 7 day period, whichever period is greater.
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