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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA 1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 11-23-2003 06:08 PM
I noticed the new pics of the web strand stuff and the stuff I was in wasn't as thick. More stringy and fine not to mention how did this end up in a car? I still hold to what I saw as NOT being from spiders.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 03:45 PM
Yikes looky what Mark Sky found hiding in his mustache!60x Mustache Fibrils 11-25-03 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 03:57 PM
These two sent in by Larry Meyer: "New style(non-uv reactive) red fibril with old style (highly fluorescent) mass. From the carpet of a heavily contaminated home."11-24-03 New & Old @60x A rock hard mass of matter from the eye of a 5 week old baby was broken to reveal the fibril encapsulated within. 11-24-03 Eyematter, Baby @60x 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 10:17 PM
From Mark Sky ~ "Photomicrographs at 10 X of matter found on us, the same fibers are on screen in both photos but different ones are visible under different light.Top picture is under Blacklight from above and shows a glowing blue and red fibril, but not the third fiber, to the right are the tips of a swiss army knive tweezer for size reference. Bottom photo is with visible light from above, the red fiber is visible, and the fiber invisible under blacklight is visible, but the blue fiber has almost completely disappeared except for a slight white light reflection. All these fibers were plastic like."

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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-08-2003 10:00 AM
More indication these unknown fibers create much irritation, from Mark Sky ~"I have had a small scabby "rough spot" on the side of my neck for the last 15 months. It will not heal up and is slightly itchy; two nights ago I picked at it and placed a bit of the surface material on a slide under 60x magnification. I used both top visible illumination and top UV illumination and saw these two fibers." Fibers From Neck Scab 60x UV VL 12-7-03 10x and held (the microscope is able to be used pressed up against your skin) photo of the scab on my neck. In the lower left corner you can see the weave of my t-shirt fibers, the dark and white lines are the hairs on my neck regrowing after a trim on 11/6/03. Scab 10x 12-7-03 Mark, please let us know how this wound heals now that the unknown, irritating fibers have been removed. Thanks! 
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 12-08-2003 05:54 PM
This just came in yesterday from Clifford Carnicom, He is finding blue and red fibrils in sore tooth / gum tissue He explains his problem, proceedure, and shows photomicrographs.UNUSUAL MEDICAL FINDING Clifford E Carnicom - Dec 07 2003 http://www.carnicom.com/med1.htm Also for reference see http://morgellons.org/
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 12-08-2003 10:18 PM
double post~see below
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 12-08-2003 10:22 PM
just a little "gravy" from the recent past on top ik credit to Clifford Carnicoms sight for the wiggling shards of light photo posted hereSaved and transferred from Page 20: Chemtrails 'Fibrils' ='UV Microfilaments' pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtra...5144.topic It won't format any better--sorry! LKU << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
Author: looookinup (7/23/01 10:02:54 pm) 'Fibrils'='UV Microfilaments' These very interesting observations were made by moondog, a chemistry professor, who posted a lot here, then took over a year 'off'. Well, he's back, hooray!-- and here is what HE has to say about those glowing blue UV microfilaments. (I also vote to call them 'fibrils' - the term seems to describe them physically, according to moondog, and also gives an appropriately mysterious, creepy, alien 'feel'. like 'tendrils'...LKU) --------------- This are from two recent posts of moondog, buried on another thread "Spotlights On the Planes" pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtra...5137.topic << Loookinup: The fibers do not appear to be textile. They are resistance to concentrated HCl, H2SO4, and HNO3. Textiles, depending on the acid, will dissolve if polyester or polyamide, although some are slow. All the ones (textile) I tested that did fluoresce under UV lost their fluoresce immediately in the acid because surface-applied dyes are very oxidation sensative. The textile fibers all dissolved later, with cotton the slowest, from what I recall. None of the textiles survived all three conc acids. The fibers we are finding are virtually unchanged after days in acid, and they do not lose fluorescence at all. Sounds sci-fi, but they may just be polyethylene or polypropylene with a fluorescent dye in the extruded melt. Very cheap, very common, but NOT textile, in general. Textiles use natural fiber (dissolves slowly) or polyamide or polyester fiber (dissolves quickly). Polypropylene is used to make containers to store conc acids, in fact. Many of the fibers have the little pearls in them down one side, like a normal power cord with one side containing pebbles every three or four pebble widths. Might be deliberately impregnated on one side only, might be just the fragments we looked at. Don't know. I think others have gone farther than I did a year ago, such as Gary. Haven't seen the fish-hooks [the 'new' black ones that-PocoLoco described?] yet.>> looookinup wrote: <microfilaments 'fibers'! They are NOT fibers. One look under a microscope will confirm they have NOTHING TO DO with fibers--fibers/lint look like dusty, twisted bundles of ropes under magnification-- and it discredits the material because sheeple automatically assume "oh, lint". Lint NOT!Manufactured, flattish, extruded, barbed, thorned, translucent, electroreactive filaments completely invisible EXCEPT under long-tube ultraviolet light. Source, composition and purpose still completely unknown (by Us, anyhow.) And, we each can probably pick at least one hundred off our skin, hair and clothes using a blacklight. (Is that motivation?) >> moondog wrote: << When last left off, back in May 2000, they were called fibers. To me filaments imply a known electrical usage, which may of course be true. As a chemist, fiber just means long thin polymeric material, anything from cellulose lint, such as cotton or wool, to polyester or polyamide textile, to bucky tube "fibrils", which are microfibers with conductive properties. A fishing line is a fiber. I didn't mean to "bundle" it in with lint, although I would guess much of our lint IS these filaments. I like the term fibrils as it implies a synthesized microfiber with conductive properties. Personally, after seeing the "storm" [the roiling amounts of particulate matter visible at night with a highpower flashlight like a Q-Light] the other night, I am inclined to believe that a welcome side effect of these filaments is to cause micro hemoraging in the lungs, and the skin. They seem to have a tendency to hook themselves into everything. A little hole and now you are opened up to whatever they feel like hitting us with. Pure speculation, but this is how silica and other fine particulate causes problems in the lungs, like asbestos. These get in the lungs and cause microscarring as the lung tissue tries to get rid of it. It isn't chemical, just a physiological response to foreign particulate. These could, IMHO, do the very same, especially since most are very tiny indeed. I don't tend to think they are a marker for wind movement of possible airborn spores or toxic dust...been going on too long for that, and is too wide spread and constant. Notice the new ads on TV for "Respiratory Distress Syndrome". Funny, that... What they are made of? I do think they are polypropylene. Just cheap hydrocarbon polymer. The beads in them? I haven't a clue. I feel like I have done as much as I can do at this point with them, given my equipment and chemicals and time. ID the beads and it will tell a lot. IDing the beads is a major operation. How do you get them out of the filament, and how do you get enough to run even sensative tests? I have no idea. IF you were able to get a whole lot of them and get the beads out, you could use atomic absorption to test for various metal cations, but that would imply it was ionic, which I don't know, although I suspect, and it also would imply that these are soluble salts, and if they are barium titanate, which was talked about months ago, they are insoluble. And that kills any solution based ID. This is a tough problem. Anything that dissolves polypropylene will almost certainly effect everything in the filament, such as fluorescing dye and beads. It is a tough problem, all round. Even if we had a pound of this stuff, the resistance to acid makes it all but useless. Find a solvent for polypropylene that is not acidic or basic, and I will do what I can, but honestly I am stumped. Perhaps collecting a lot and then melting them, dissolving the melt in an organic solvent, filtering, and collecting the residue on the filter, which should be the beads! I don't have experience much with polymers, so I don't know a good solvent, but probably very non-polar will do it, like pet-ether. But the heat of the melt will just vaporize and cool it back to the polymer. Well, I just got caught chasing my tail (bark bark). Interestingly, and along the topic of the fibrils, my friend was relatively sure he saw morphological changes in them when they were in contact with saliva! Can someone try to check this? I unfortunately don't have the time right now...>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- moondog (7/24/01 7:35:02 pm) fibrils The term was, to my mind, first used in about 1992 when a new form of carbon was discovered and synthesized: Buckminster fullerenes, after the famous geodesic dome structure. Buck balls, as they are called, are dodecahedra of carbon, like graphite sheets wrapped in a sphere. They can also be synthesized as tubes, like graphite sheets wrapped into a long tube. Graphite conducts due to its electron delocalization, and so it was thought these tubes would conduct. They did. These were called "fibrils", and they are very tiny...only about 20 atoms in width. Seemed like a good term to use for these. Tonight I spoke with my friend who did the saliva experiment, and he said that the fibers, in saliva between two glass microscope slides, after about a week changed. They sort of braided around each other, or else they actually FORMED braids. He said he hasn't done it since, but that it was very disturbing. He is not formally educated in science however, and it is also possible that the slides slid over each other and twisted the fibrils. He is pretty controlled about this sort of thing, however, but I would say the jury is still out on this. Polypropylene or any hydrocarbon polymer should do nothing whatsoever in any biological fluid, least of all saliva, so so this raises questions. Someone needs to try this independently, I think. Again, I don't have time for it this week. BTW, this friend is also the one who thought of the lights on the planes, and not only does he not care if he is arrested, I think he wants a confrontation about these kites. Its a game to him, and he loves to play with their heads. He has been on his roof for the last six nights or so until very early morning, and let me tell you, he sounded terrible tonight on the phone. Raspy, snorting and hacking up thick mucus. He said they blink their lights back at them, and I don't doubt this, considering the obvious responses Friday night. They know he is there. He also said that it looked like they layed out a brown cloud at about 2000 ft which came right down on him. And get this: there were lots of mosquitoes up on his roof! He said they NEVER fly up there, but he got bit and good last night. I am hoping he is ok, but it does raise even more questions, with possibly very unpleasant answers. I think this guy would willingly die for this cause if he felt it would lead to stopping all this. Let's hope, for all our sakes, that that happens later rather than sooner. He is one of the bravest people I have ever known. Thanks for the gracious welcome-back, Loookinup. This is a very busy time for me, but I am happy to add my $.02 worth. My antenna are up, however, and I already sense some trouble. I'm sure my presence here is not going over well with those that want to cause trouble and confusion. I am very pleased with the dilligence of the core of people here, and on the sidelines. And there are a lot on the sidelines, bless their hearts. On a more negative note, I'm very suspicious of some here that I have been noticing for some time now. Their faned politeness glows like a fibril. I NEVER left, so it isn't as though I just met them and they can fool me because I don't know them. Don't fool yourselves. And don't think that if I leave I have stopped working on the problem at hand, or thinking about it, or watching who is trying what devisive tactic. It's ALL part of the game we are finding ourselves in right now. Chess, as it were. The question is: who side are you on? Saw a set of two trails today in a perfect "SS", just like the Nazi symbol, with sharp S's. Don't know how they did it, but it made me shiver. never fear under vine is here click click click into the void the nsa gaspz con troll ing mother of all ops
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-16-2003 11:20 AM
These pics sent from Larry Meyer. Note materials are dissimilar. 200x, illumination from below. Fibrils 12-11-03 A It's still with us. These were collected today. Photo at 200x, illumination from below. Note the segmented structure at the right and the flattened bluish fibril at left of center. Fibrils 12-11-03 B 200x 60x, illumination from below. Fibrils 12-11-03 C 60x 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-16-2003 11:35 AM
Lots of debris on your floors eh Larry?"This is sweepings from the kitchen floor; it's not all dog hair! 200x, illuminated from below. Back in the "early days" I showed the local hospital similar but fluorescent material on the lab countertop and on the ER floor. They were only interested in how fast they could get me out of the building. The Respiratory Dept couldn't be bothered. Next I showed the local Head Start people what was in the carpet the children were crawling around on; I was asked to leave. Hope our audience here is a little more receptive. I do wish we would get more feedback. Coast to Coast last night may have opened a few more eyes. Hope it's not too late." 12-12-03-A Kitchen Floor Debris 200x, illumunation from below. 12-12-03-B Kitchen Floor Debris
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon 54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 06:21 PM
Cann't see much reason to beat this dead horse. If Senior Member halva is correct, and I suspect he is, there are 10 million tons of this material above us. Guess we better focus on filters, cleaning agents (It would be nice to know of a release agent) and health related information.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 06:48 PM
These pictures were recently sent to me from Larry Meyer. It may not be raining cats and dogs, but fibrils are raining down on cats and dogs!"Even our pets are suffering. Black fine comb with cathair and fibrils." 12.27.03a Feline 12.27.03b Feline 200x Segmented brownish objects are cat hair. 12.27.03c Feline 200x 12.27.03d Feline 200x 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 07:08 PM
"Looks like the family dog is in trouble too!"12.28.03a Canine 60x 12.28.03b Canine 60x "?????" 12.28.03c Canine 200x "Study this one carefully." 12.28.03d Canine 200x
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 07:19 PM
12.28.03e Canine 200x "Look familar? I think so." 12.28.03f Canine 200x 12.28.03g Canine 200x 
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-03-2004 02:33 AM
i have this old dog trixie oh well after the fibers, she don't featch so well | |