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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-20-2003 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the respectful comment Chemwatcher.

See, the reason we debate so much on here is because, well, the chemtrail theory has so many holes. If the chemtrail theory actually made sense somewhat, I would have no problem letting you go on your way. When you have a theory with no problems, then you very well could have a correct theory. But as soon as I got here, I noticed the entire theory was based on flawed logic, namely regarding how long contrails persist.

Im not here to bug you, or irritate you, Im just here to show you that this theory has some problems. If you can retool the theory, and fill the gaps, only then you will have a hardcore, non-refutable theory.

I see so many times chemmies spouting somthing off, then I try and explain that what they just said has some flawed logic, and then the chemmie starts whining and crying telling me I am ruining the site.

That is not my goal.

If you had a good theory, us debunkers would be out of business. But, as you can see by the sheer number of debunkers, somthing in your theory is not correct, and it gives us somthing to feed on.

Just step back and look at the theory as a whole. If you find a flaw, remove it, and try to find the correct piece to go there.

Cheers.

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-20-2003 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NW41Heavy:
"So do you believe in a World just like pilot? Do you also think in the box?,and do you also think being in a box means your right?"


What is that supposed to mean? I follow procedure strictly like a pilot, but i am paid to think outside the box and adapt to any situation logically, quickly, smoothly and safely.

You've got a whacked out conception of pilots. What other profession could I have to leave later than planned without paying for my gas and oil b/c the place had closed when myself and the passgers arrived... and leave a note on the door saying I would call them in the morning to pay the bill for plane...without getting in trouble?

Happy Easter to all- remember what it's about.


I mean phx.pilot not pilots in general,I have several pilot friends, and their very concerned also... sorry for the misunderstanding...PEACE AND HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!!and yeah SOME TIMES WERE ALL WACKED,IT JUST DEPENDS ON YOUR POINT OF VIEW!

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
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posted 04-20-2003 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Thank you for the respectful comment Chemwatcher.

See, the reason we debate so much on here is because, well, the chemtrail theory has so many holes. If the chemtrail theory actually made sense somewhat, I would have no problem letting you go on your way. When you have a theory with no problems, then you very well could have a correct theory. But as soon as I got here, I noticed the entire theory was based on flawed logic, namely regarding how long contrails persist.

Im not here to bug you, or irritate you, Im just here to show you that this theory has some problems. If you can retool the theory, and fill the gaps, only then you will have a hardcore, non-refutable theory.

I see so many times chemmies spouting somthing off, then I try and explain that what they just said has some flawed logic, and then the chemmie starts whining and crying telling me I am ruining the site.

That is not my goal.

If you had a good theory, us debunkers would be out of business. But, as you can see by the sheer number of debunkers, somthing in your theory is not correct, and it gives us somthing to feed on.

Just step back and look at the theory as a whole. If you find a flaw, remove it, and try to find the correct piece to go there.

Cheers.


WELL HERE WE GO AGAIN,I CANT TELL ANY BETTER THAN ITS NOT ALL ABOUT PROVABLE THEORIES TO ME WHAT CAN I SAY???AND AS FAR AS CHEMMIES AND WHINERS WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE WILL TAKE YOU AS FAR AS GHANGING THE OPPOSITIONS MIND??WHY DO YOU SPEAK SO DEROGATORILY ABOUT THE VERY PEOPLE THIS SITE WAS CREATED FOR, how do like being called a Connie. Maybe you would get more ears to heed your therories if you didnt insult other people either??DONT YOU EXPECT GREEF HERE IT IS CHEM CENTRAL NOT CON???I am glad we had a moment to actualy feel each other it shows me we are not so far appart inside and to me thats what its all about anyway, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE AND UNTIL MY HEART SAYS DIFFERENT ILL STAY WITH MINE,AND YOU CAN HAVE YOURS THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE ISNT IT?? PEACE AND HARMONY FOR OUR WORLD AND HER PEOPLE!

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, just chill out.

WHY DO YOU SPEAK SO DEROGATORILY ABOUT THE VERY PEOPLE THIS SITE WAS CREATED FOR, how do like being called a Connie.

I couldnt care less if you called me that, honestly. My skin is not so thin that "connies" is going to throw me off my rocker.

And how am I speaking derogatorily?

I CANT TELL ANY BETTER THAN ITS NOT ALL ABOUT PROVABLE THEORIES TO ME WHAT CAN I SAY???

So what your saying is that your fine believing in a theory that obviously has problems with it?

There is a difference between "unprovable" and "Not Proved"



[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 04-20-2003]

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Jeanie
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551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 04-20-2003 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pilot#####You say you are not here to bug us, maybe not but you ARE here to lie to us. Just came in from working in my yard for a few hours.###TODAY WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORSE CHEMTRAIL DAY I HAVE EVER WITNESSED IN THE PAST SIX YEARS. It began early morning and is still going strong now at 7 P.M. No way in hell is what I heard and saw normal plane traffic.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Jeanie on 04-20-2003]

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.###TODAY WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORSE CHEMTRAIL DAY I HAVE EVER WITNESSED IN THE PAST SIX YEARS.

Lets change that to: ###TODAY WAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST CONDITIONED DAY FOR CONTRAILS I HAVE WITNESSES IN THE PAST SIX YEARS.

No way in hell is what I heard and saw normal plane traffic.

And you believe this....why? So, you think you HEARD somthing different from how normal traffic sounds? Why do you think this was not normal?

This is what I mean by "assumptions".

You saw streaks in sky: Must be chemicals
Saw many aircraft: Must be more than normal

Facts: Assumptions

You cannot find truth that way

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Jeanie
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posted 04-20-2003 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know what I saw? So don't comment on what you didn't see. You wouldn't know truth if you tripped over it. I suppose that's the end of the rain we should get.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jeanie on 04-20-2003]

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you think you HEARD somthing different from how normal traffic sounds? Why do you think this was not normal?

How about you try to reply to this

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-20-2003 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PHXPilot:
Again, just chill out.

[b]WHY DO YOU SPEAK SO DEROGATORILY ABOUT THE VERY PEOPLE THIS SITE WAS CREATED FOR, how do like being called a Connie.

I couldnt care less if you called me that, honestly. My skin is not so thin that "connies" is going to throw me off my rocker.

And how am I speaking derogatorily?

I CANT TELL ANY BETTER THAN ITS NOT ALL ABOUT PROVABLE THEORIES TO ME WHAT CAN I SAY???

So what your saying is that your fine believing in a theory that obviously has problems with it?

There is a difference between "unprovable" and "Not Proved"

[/B]


AGAIN DONT ATTEMPT TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO PAL,PERIOD OK!YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT IT HAS ABSOLUTLY NO AFFECT,SO KEEPEM FLAPPING,I JUST DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK,DONT YOU GET THAT..ITS PRETTY SIMPLE!!!
AS FAR AS THE SKIN THING THATS NOT THE POINT ,ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME YOU HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART FOR ALL OF US WHEN YOU CALL US NAMES,IM NOT A CHEMMIE IM A CONCERNED CITIZEN LIKE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS ARE, BUT I FORGOT THERE IS NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT,MY ASS SORRY BUT THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IS ,BULLSHIT!!!WE ARE BEING SPRAYED,JUST LIKE TODAY,BUT NOT IN YOUR WORLD HUH!! THIS IS LAST TIME I WILL TALK TO YOU,I KNOW I KEEP SAYING THAT,THEN YOU JUMP ON ME OR SOMEONE ELSE AND I CANT HOLD BACK FROM POSTING TO YOU,BUT IM THROUGH W...A...S...T...I...N...G...MY TIME WITH YOU! YOU DONT BELIEVE FINE,DONT,BUT DONT TRY TO SELL ANYBODY YOU ARE'NT HERE TO BE A PAIN IN THE BUTT,YOU LOVE IT,IT DRIPS OFF YOUR POST ALONG WITH YOUR CONTEMPTUIOUS ATTITUDE TOWARDS WHAT MAKES UP 99.9%OF THE PEOPLE ON CHEMTRAIL CENTRAL,YOU TRY TO COVER IT UP WITH YOUR SAME OLD FACTS AND RETORTS,AND "YOUR INTEREST IN STRAIGHTENING US NON FLYERS",BUT WE DONT WANT YOUR HELP,YOUR ADVISE OR YOUR VIEW,THEY SIMPLY DONT BELONG HERE AND NEITHER DO YOU. IF YOUR REAL INTENTIONS ARE TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT,THEN WY DO YOU ALWAYS EMBROIL YOURSELF IN SO MUCH ARGUEMENT THAT THE VERY POINTS BEING DISCUSSED FADE AWAY INTO DARKNESS.WHY DONT YOU OPEN YOUR OWN SITE,HOW MUCH BETTER COULD IT GET YOU CAN TELL THE WORLD WITHOUT WAISTING EVERONES TIME INCLUDING YOUR OWN,BUT IS'NT THAT THE REAL POINT YOUR BORED AND LIKE TO DEBATE,SO COME HERE TIE UP THREDS LIKE THIS ONE,DOES ANY BODY EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THE TOPIC WAS...NIGHT SPRAYING,THE ONLY TALK OF NIGHT SPRAYING WAS THE ORIGINAL POST. AND FINALY ...LAST...TIME...I...FEEL...80%...OF...WHAT...I...SAY...ABOUT...CHEMS, GOT IT GOD I HOPE SO!!NOT EVERTHING IS ABOUT A DEBATABLE ISSUE,PROBLEM RIDDLED OR NOT YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND A PERSON WHO IS GUIDED BY OUR HEARTS DO YOU...TO BAD ITS THE GREATEST SENSORY EQUIPMENT WE BEEN GIVEN. GOOD LUCK,GOOD LIFE,I WILL ONLY RESOND TO THE PEOPLE I CAME HERE TO DISCUSS WITH AND THATS ALL THE REST OF US....YOU JUST FELL OFF THE EARTH...BYE CONNIE...SENSE YOU DONT MIND....

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Chemwatcher, I'll leave you to yourself now.

Good day.

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chemwatcher
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phoenix,az,usa
87 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-20-2003 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemwatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jeanie:
Pilot#####You say you are not here to bug us, maybe not but you ARE here to lie to us. Just came in from working in my yard for a few hours.###TODAY WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORSE CHEMTRAIL DAY I HAVE EVER WITNESSED IN THE PAST SIX YEARS. It began early morning and is still going strong now at 7 P.M. No way in hell is what I heard and saw normal plane traffic.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Jeanie on 04-20-2003]

HI JEANIE thanks for jumping in I've been playing with pilot for a couple of days now and my fingers are worn out! Its amazing what he pops off about and has no idea what hes talking about huh?,dont you see thats just what he wants,simply to dabate,not to solve any thing,just tie everything up,to pull you away from your shareing of info with the others here,cloud and confuse,divide and conquer,why else would he be here ??masochisim,i think that would be a GIANT YESSSSSSS.BUT I dont want to play the insult game either Im going to take the advise from many others here and not respond to someone WHO THINKS HE CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOUR SEEING FROM HIS LIVING ROOM,AND WERE SUPPOSED TO DROP TO OUR KNEES AND LISTEN TO THAT DRIBBLE...OH MY WHAT CAN YOU SAY BUT ....EASY ON THE MEDICATION BUDDY... ATLEAST UNTIL THE HALLUCINATIONS SUBSIDE,LOVE YA HUN!!PEACE AND LOVE FOR OUR MOTHER EARTH AND HER CHILDREN!

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its amazing what he pops off about and has no idea what hes talking about huh?,

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Aha, you kill me Chemwatcher. *chuckle*

Ah, thanks for the laugh.

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everetteyes
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posted 04-20-2003 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for everetteyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pilot,
I was thinking of you today as I came up on a tragic auto accident on the highway,what a shame that it wasn't you lying on the side of the road covered in your own blood....I can still wish

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Lulu
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posted 04-20-2003 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a sick thing to say, everettteyes. PHXPilot, I apologize for this callous, insensitive remark uttered by everetteyes...

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posted 04-20-2003 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, dont sweat it Lulu.

I've become quite immune to certain peoples twisted comments here. It used to get to me, because, lets face it, someone wishing you were dead is not very pleasant. But, during my stay here, Ive learned to deal with them. I guess it comes with the territory.

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posted 04-20-2003 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But on another note directed at Everett:

You constantly claim that government is a horrible "Nazi" regime because you think they want to get into wars for oil, not caring for precious human life, haphazardly putting human lives at risk, and that you wont stand for that. You stand for justice and truth.

But what do I see from you time and time again? Wishes of death upon me. Wishes of death upon others like me.

When have I ever wished death upon you? When have I ever wished any sort of ill-being upon you? I come to try to open your eyes to the chance that what you see is NOT poison. is NOT chemicals. is NOT evil. I try to open your eyes and to show you a better and brighter world that you are missing.

Yet you wish I was dead.

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everetteyes
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posted 04-20-2003 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for everetteyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu,
Oh did I hurt your feelings? The queen bee only gets upset when her nest is attacked

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the professor
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posted 04-20-2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I come to try to open your eyes to the chance that what you see is NOT poison. is NOT chemicals. is NOT evil. I try to open your eyes and to show you a better and brighter world that you are missing.

Above statement written by PHX pilot

There lies the problem, when your totally convinced that you are being poisoned and can't do shit about it a mentality moves in and instead of logical reaction you get emotions taking over. I understand how he thinks and for a time I did as well until I found that not every long trail are chemtrails. I will say however I do know that there are or is such a program going on so if any wish to say I'm fence jumping think again. If the people who desire to take action do so logically and refrain from their true emotions you will be taken more seriously, just my observation.
On the other hand PHX telling someone what they are seeing for years in an area your not in sounds condensending.

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-20-2003 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the other hand PHX telling someone what they are seeing for years in an area your not in sounds condensending.

If it does, Im sorry, but thats the way its going to be sometimes.

I have seen every photo you guys have thrown around, and they all look just like contrails. Every last one of them.

So, unless I see some drastically different photos showing something in the sky, I have to say that what you are seeing is contrails.

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HatchetML
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posted 04-21-2003 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HatchetML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you opinion is just like everyone elses, dont mean jack sh#$....

"I try to open your eyes and to show you a better and brighter world that you are missing." - phxpilot

OMG. plz man i knew that was why your here, that sounds just like a hypocrit christian,its plainly obvious your delusional reality of trying to enlighten a few msg board users is sadistic,and evil.

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posted 04-21-2003 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSPpilot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hatchel: You are just getting mad because PHXpilot has showed you off, and you have nothing else to back yourself up with! Kudos PHXpilot, you are the man!

John

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HatchetML
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posted 04-21-2003 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HatchetML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, wow he showed me up in a contest that never was! Im not here to compete, is that your purpose here? I assure you nothing here will make me mad, but instead of run your F box why not contribute instead of disrupt!

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posted 04-21-2003 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why not contribute instead of disrupt!

I know that a few of them have been watching my stay on here, keeping tabs on how you guys respond to things, and I think many of them have realized that "contributing" doesnt really do much. It just makes you cuss at us. And tell us that you wish we were dead. (See Everetteyes posts for explaination)

If we were to bring a 100 page scientific study, researched over 20 years, with the brightest in the country working on it, I would bet 50 bucks that most of you would respond with some sort of crap response, telling us to choke on our dinners or whatnot.

I wish it wasnt that way, but that really seems to be how it works.


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posted 04-21-2003 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HatchetML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again see three trails, your in the wrong to group anyone in here in any kind of catagory! And then judge them, thats sad! But again your proving a valid point of your inablilty to be in reality and have an openmind!

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