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Topic:   What made you first believe in Chemtrails?

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-24-2003 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Reason i Belive in Chemtrails is Beuase I Have Seen Them In Real Life.
Also New Bill HR2977 Names ChemTrails As An Exotic Weapon!!! If it passes, chemtrails would be banned! http://home.earthlink.net/~byronsworld/HR2977.html

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 04-24-2003 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it was because i keep crossing
De Nile

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 04-24-2003 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not so new ConspiracyMan

>>2001October 2, 2001

It never passed.

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-24-2003 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeh i know
i diddnt think that bill would pass.
i just thought it was interesting.

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-24-2003 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it was because i keep crossing
De Nile

it ain't...just a river...

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ChemCaptain
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United States
495 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-24-2003 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChemCaptain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conspiracy: Posts like "I believe in them because I've seen them" is not at all what I am looking for in this thead. Everybody has seen 'trails' in the sky, it's a matter of what made you first believe they were chemicals, and not "contrails" as commonly believed.

Edit: Reading that bill, it is not a bill to "ban chemtrails", while it is mentioned under definition, it is a bill to ban space based weapons above the united states, which would never pass.

If there was a bill specifically "banning the governmental use of chemicals being sprayed over the United States with the intent to harm it's own citizens", it would bet it would pass.


[Edited 5 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 04-24-2003]

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-24-2003 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the reason i belive they are diffrent cuase i saw a webpage with picture of a plane with a contrail flying near chemtrails
which where thicker and looked diffrent.

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ICU812
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Edmonton, Canada
100 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-24-2003 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ICU812     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I became aware that something unusual was happening around 97'/98'. Started to notice more Kc's flyin' over my city. Thought it was pretty cool.

Been workin' outdoors for twenty years with 60000 hrs of observation time. yup, 3000 hrs a yr. outdoors, lookin' up (and down). (PHX, you ever get outdoors?)

Been plane nuts, growing up near a big ol' mil base and next to an airport. Knew what a 737 was before a toilet, yucky.

Wasn't really convinced until watching spray operations from my vantage point....... behind the radar at the control tower, finding AL and Ba in unusual amounts in precipitation, gaining alliances within the military and meteorological organizations, researching 1000+hrs of atmospheric science mumble, reviewing hundreds of publications at the university and seeing the interest the topic gets from so many self-proclaimed experts that really don't seem to understand how far we've come in climate engineering.

and I do it for the chicks too, right Lulu.

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ScaredForTheFuture
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Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it bothersome that here in SO. CA the weather has predicted rain.. and rain.. and rain.. and rain... and for months and months and months now each and every friggin time the rain is postponed.. and postponed.. and postponed...

And everytime it was to be "rain/65^" it ends up being "sunny as all hell/75^+". Over and over and over for months now.

Hell, I get my sources from weather.com and fom all local news. Can they ALL be wrong day in and day out, week after week after week?????????????

And I have to laugh my ass off when the radio guy says "increasing clouds and probable rain" when I'm looking at the sky and there isn't 1 fooking cloud out there!!!!! This happened TODAY. And it happens every day. Something is absolutely happening to the weather, chemtrails or not, and this "something" is very unnatural and unhealthy for US and for our Mother Earth.

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ChemCaptain
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United States
495 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-25-2003 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChemCaptain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scared-

First off, the weather men are always wrong! Everybody knows that (Just joking!)

Second, most these places get their news from one or two sources, so if everybody is saying rain, and they all got it from one source- if that source was wrong, they'll all be wrong. The radio channels that say "Rain"- they don't have their own meteoroligists, they just read a script

Weather prediction isn't exact, weather is unpredictable in many cases, just the way it is.

I think some people here understand that its possible for there to be something bad going on with weather- they haven't denied it. You say your self, chemtrail or not, they simply say that it isn't because of chemtrails.

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Feelin Kocky
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Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>something bad going on with weather-<<

What do you mean?

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Feelin Kocky
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Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>I get my sources from weather.com and fom all local news<<

Yikes!! No wonder the forecasts suck. Try these guys. http://www.nwsla.noaa.gov/

I never get a forecast from anybody but the NWS. They are much better.

F.K.

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Leave No Trace
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4 posts, Feb 2003

posted 04-25-2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leave No Trace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange-

No response from the "pilot" crowd to
ICU812's reply above. Maybe a "radar"
expert will join the forum and add their
explanation to whatever he may have seen.


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NW41Heavy
Negro with an Attitude


Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 04-25-2003 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Wasn't really convinced until watching spray operations from my vantage point....... behind the radar at the control tower, finding AL and Ba in unusual amounts in precipitation"

Watching spray operations behind the radar at the control tower, eh? Please..more detail. How did you see these spray ops in the TRACON? Or were you in the tower?

Unusual amounts of precip? I thought this was a desertification process? Other people seemed to be convinced that this is to diminish rainfall, not accenuate it. Do you blame all this weather in the south on chemtrails?

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Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!

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Leave No Trace
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4 posts, Feb 2003

posted 04-25-2003 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leave No Trace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was probably in both the tower cab AND
down in tracon, either way, radars nonetheless. And his reply says unusual amounts of barium and aluminum IN the precip-
NOT unusual amounts of precip.

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 04-25-2003 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fk; Will you give me the gov. weather web site for the east coast? Thanks

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Jeanie on 04-25-2003]

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Feelin Kocky
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Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you go to http://srh.noaa.gov/ you will get a map of the whole us and and just click on the area you want and go to the individual NWS office to see the forecast for that region.

F.K.

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Feelin Kocky
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537 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feelin Kocky   Visit Feelin Kocky's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>Maybe a "radar"
expert will join the forum <<

I am an expert in weather RADAR. What do you want to know?


F.K.

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concerned mom
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Palm Springs,CA
39 posts, May 2002

posted 04-26-2003 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for concerned mom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I caame to the so.Cal. P>Spngs dessert from L.A. for various reasons 1 of them was cleaner air. Summers here turned out to be like the devil. ......,the rest of the year-wide open crystaaal blue sky-somedays w/pillowy white clouds that you just want to crawl up on and snooze. and of course NOOO SMOG!!! Being that I hate the summer-I would spend the rest of the year praising the beauty of the Desert paridise! a few years ago I noticed the haze.During the winter.I would ask"this is the winter the most beaautiful time here. where is my crystal clear sky?,havent you noticed its been getting yuky. Next year-"ok whats going on? ans. its smog rolling in from L.A. No! I lived in smog all my life. Thats not smog. zero prec. thats not fog. heard an Art Bell show. Chems. started paying attention cuz by 12/2001 The trails were spewing all over.IM sane, could not understand ,that there would be a strange negetive reason so I went with the wheather theory. Now that I have educated myself and know that not all have a loving conscience like me. Some dont care if they hurt others. I learned some nasty secrets about Aids&Eboli;and how man has experimented on man,I decided to at least review the other theories. All I know is it has affected my health. I know that- because difficut breath and nastier than ever Broncitis seemed to follow suit. By the way theres too much that ssupports the Chem for me to ignore. Im at the stage now of wanting answers to whaaaat its forĄ Because the other theories follow the "Agenda that im experiencing. Im not t going to talk about that unless someone like Thermit ect. is here to back me up. thaantoodloo

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is it has affected my health. I know that- because difficut breath and nastier than ever Broncitis seemed to follow suit.

I used to have severe asthma until a couple years ago, when it suddenly went away. I would think that with soooooooo many chemtrail believers having such horrible breathing problems, my asthma would have gone out of control and killed me. But it didnt. I have had no ill effects from what you call "chemtrails". I can actually breathe easier. But for some reason chemtrail believers are running around gasping for breath.

The placebo effect?

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NW41Heavy
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Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 04-26-2003 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NW41Heavy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering your breathing problem hypothesis... My asthma went away in the early 90's. But! Cats are a conspiracy of the government, since anytime I am around them, I begin wheezing again. Cat-trail central maybe?

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Dude, that guy has a black belt in redneck!

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 04-26-2003 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PHX and Heavy: Do you get paid salary or by the hour for attempts to confuse and debunk? Just wondering, Oh and insults will get you nowhere.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and insults will get you nowhere.

Posted by Jeanie: One would have to be half witted, retarded, in denial, or dead not to know what's going on......

Who wants to count up the insults there? We, apperantly, are "Half-witted", "Retarded", "In denial", and "dead".


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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 04-26-2003 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would be the best one to know if the shoe fit's. Oh I forgot to add to that list, liars.

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PHXPilot
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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you dont have anything productive to add here Jeanie?

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