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Topic: What made you first believe in Chemtrails? | Topic page views:
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 07:57 PM
  
Simple question, maybe can clear up some things for me. Please give no more information than that  
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-23-2003 08:09 PM
Oh joy...another Captain on board. Please get the ball rolling. Do tell us why you first believed in chemtrails, or are you here to amuse yourself?
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:14 PM
Wow Lulu, that was pretty hostile off the bat. I'm not a "Captain", it's just a username!You didn't exactly answer my question, I want to know how each individual person first came to believe in chemtrails. I do not believe in chemtrails, and am just trying to understand.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-23-2003 08:14 PM
that's a legitimate question...asked it myself 3 years ago got 25, 30 replies...be interesting to compare data... of course myself I got into chemtrails for the chicks...
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:19 PM
No, seeker, thats what airplanes are for  And, I dont believe in chemtrails.
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:23 PM
I'm sure everybody has figured that out by now PHX.Am I gonna get any legitimate replies 
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:25 PM
I'm sure everybody has figured that out by now PHXWell, I would sure hope so.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-23-2003 08:48 PM
Hostile? really? well I apologize then...I saw something I'd never seen before in 2000. Figured these new sights to be chemtrails. Haven't seen any since last summer. Too much info?
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:49 PM
Ok. Since you asked.Nobody told me a damned thing. I figured out by myself that these lines in the sky weren't right.. that they had a pattern of appearing on ugly hot/dry days... that they covered large sections/or the whole sky... that once blue skies would turn into a complete blanket covering within hours. It was then that I started internet research.
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 08:50 PM
Please point that research out to me please.
F.K.
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:03 PM
Don't wanna turn this thread into Debunker zone Faeelin, I actually do want answers  Scared- You didn't really answer my question, I mean, what made you believe that what you saw was Chemicals? If the military is spraying, why would they do it on only hot/dry days? I would think that it would fit more with a weather anomoly than spraying if the apperance of Chemtrails is often dependant on how the weather is. Please clarify, I'm not trying to flame you or anything! Just 2 cents. And Lulu, thanks for answering . I want to know what made the connection between those trails in the sky being chemicals though? What arose suspision in them? Edit (for spelling errors and: ) Did the trails you dubbed Chemtrails look different from the trails you normally saw Lulu? Since you seem only have seen the chemtrails over a limited time, which I find more interesting than the reports of trails every day.
[Edited 4 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 04-23-2003]
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MSPpilot
New Member
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
6 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:13 PM
Scaredforthefuture: It can be hot and dry on the ground, but 30,000+ feet up it's cold, and conditions are usually humid. Lots of times, you'll have contrails in those conditions. Then, contrails sometimes disband forming what appears to look like a cirrus cloud. Just one contrail alone can make a huge, miles and miles wide band! If you get a few aircraft leaving contrails that disband, then you get the "blanketed" sky.
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MSPpilot:
Scaredforthefuture: It can be hot and dry on the ground, but 30,000+ feet up it's cold, and conditions are usually humid. Lots of times, you'll have contrails in those conditions. Then, contrails sometimes disband forming what appears to look like a cirrus cloud. Just one contrail alone can make a huge, miles and miles wide band! If you get a few aircraft leaving contrails that disband, then you get the "blanketed" sky.
Your wasting your breath. Many here do not seem accept this fact. F.K.
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:26 PM
Hey MSP/FK.. If you are debunking in my thread it's only going to scare away anyone who will tell me why they believe what they do, knock it off will ya  .
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PHXPilot
Your Mode C Veil is Showing
Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:28 PM
BTW, I found some photos from the 60s, 70s, and 80s showing contrails similair to the ones you guys call "chemtrails" today.
So your "I have never seen them before" argument is disregarded.If you want me to post them on this thread, just say the word. PS: Sorry Chemcaptain
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 09:30 PM
I didn't realize that was an issue- I've seen trails all my life. This is why I made this thread, so I could clear up my confusion.Again, I'll ask the question started by this thread- What lead you to your current believing of chemtrails? What clicked that made you say that those trails were chemicals? How do you *personally* differenciate contrails from chemtrails - that's an arguement that really confuses me.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 04-23-2003]
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-23-2003 10:07 PM
This is a really lame probe
but hear goes
"once upon a time i was gazeing into a vernal pool and
i saw a faiery shrimp
and it trolled me to look up
into the sky
so i looked up there and there were patterns
like a chest board
so i came here and read a bit
then i decided to go over and see why the airplane industry is doing it yet
they are going broke because no one is flying
but these jets are flying over where no passengers ever whent
sigh~~`
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker
537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 10:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ChemCaptain:
Hey MSP/FK.. If you are debunking in my thread it's only going to scare away anyone who will tell me why they believe what they do, knock it off will ya .
Wasn't trying to debunk anything. Just trying to make a point to follow up your statement. F.K. ~~~ Will now shut his pie hole
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 10:32 PM
Hey Cap, good question, I first heard of chemtrails in 97 while researching black helicoptor conspiricies. My first reaction was what a bunch of paranoids, kinda how I veiw the alien crowd and most democratic socialists. Fast forward to late 2000 and I was driving around and noticed very irregular flying patterns with total white out of trails and thought holy shit this IS really happening.\\I however don't often align myself with others in opinions or the way I think, I make my own conclusions based on what I've learned myself.I do believe spray ops happen to a degree and this could be reasons for patents on various agents and also the web strands during winter that I've witnessed coming in from the Pacific with highly irregular routing and such. I will state though it is hard to be taken seriously by some because others get a fanatic frenzy over this and intern look and make anyone else joining the cause to be looked at as a bunch of whackos that need to be locked up.
I think some here will agree on that last statement. Hope that helps ya Cap.
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 10:34 PM
Thanks for the reply Prof, that's all I wanted How do you define irregular patterns? It's kind a personal definition I guess (strange to one, normal to others). I remember lazy days rock climbing being at the top of a cliff watching the old birds (planes) flying over leaving their trails. To me, those trails are something fun to watch. Excuse me while I say it again, thats why I'm lookin' for info, looking to understand an obvious leap of misunderstanding between people who believe chemtrails exist, and those that do not. I find it interesting one group of people can find something beautiful while another find it frightening. So please keep answering, people, if you can. Maybe we can figure some stuff out
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 04-23-2003]
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-23-2003 10:59 PM
>>Did the trails you dubbed Chemtrails look different from the trails you normally saw Lulu?<<This was the first time ever seeing "trails" Captain in 2000, a low dripper as they say. The gut made the connection I had no part in it.
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 04-23-2003 11:07 PM
Really lulu? That surprises me! What does low dripper mean? I have seen trails going through the sky since I can remember, not every day of course. What country do you live in if you don't mind me asking, is there normally a lot of air traffic over the area?
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-23-2003 11:51 PM
I live in lower Canada, BC to be exact, home of plentiful lumber and water for you nice American neighbours. Only witnessed persistent trails known as chemtrails from 2000 to 2002 summer, weird I know. Low dripper--more like a skeletal low dripper N/S took me by surprise. Low in elevation, looked to be dripping, oozing, bleeding...
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-24-2003 12:05 AM
Low dripper--more like a skeletal low dripper N/S took me by surprise. Low in elevation, looked to be dripping, oozing, bleeding...must have been some good chit !
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-24-2003 12:06 AM
you know it seekermon the best
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