posted 04-26-2003 04:09 PM            

Again, this is NOT a reason to believe in chemtrails. You should believe in chemtrails because the facts and evidence point to it. You should NOT believe in chemtrails because the government is evil.

posted 04-26-2003 07:06 PM            

If you are referring to my comments, I did not mean for there to be any "flaming". And I do not believe there was any flaming in my post. Everything I said was true. Using one opinion ("Government is evil") as a basis for evidence in another theory ("Chemtrails ") is a HORRIBLE way of doing things.

Thats why you dont see scientist saying "Water is wet, so this product must cause cancer" Then when someone says the product doesnt cause cancer the scientists say "Dont you believe water is wet???"

Using one totally unrelated thing to prove another doesnt work.

posted 04-26-2003 07:21 PM            

I deal with reality every day in surgery. I know working there has hardened me a bit to guard myself from feelings when we can't save a patient, or when the patient is very young and has been shot or brutally beaten, or broken up in an accident. That's something only people who work in the healthcare environment or EMS service will know all to well. So with that said, once again, I apologize if my post hurt your feelings.

As to what you said about the air, water and the whole planet being polluted I always remember what I heard someone say quite a while ago. I wish I knew who said it so I could give them credit but it was stated:

"Man is the only animal who soils its nest."

Since I heard that I have been doing what I can to keep Mother Earth as clean as I can in our area. If you never respond to this all I can say is I hope you have a nice life.

posted 04-26-2003 09:21 PM            

My next assignment is flying C-130s, so I've taken the time to study them a bit, and I've got plenty of friends in the Herk community flying them now. E model Herks can't climb hardly at all above the mid-20s. H1s, H2s and H3s can, but they can't carry a decent load and make it very high unless the air is around ISA -10 or so.

The bottom line is that turboprops simply aren't very efficient at high altitudes (ie above 25,000 feet). And I have yet to see a chemtrail activist-provided photo showing anything closely resembling a C-130 leaving a "chemtrail". Nearly every photo I've seen yet so far of alleged "chemsprayers" has been some variant of a commercial airliner (Boeing 737/747/757/767/777, Airbus A300/310/319/320, etc).

posted 04-27-2003 02:19 AM            

I'll answer both your statements.

1st, the X-logo is actually propeller, since that squad flies C-130s (that use props), it makes sense in my opinion.

Many people see the X-pattern as something of importance denoting formation flying or such (or some intended pattern? ), but I believe it is simply a case where as aircraft are going to cross paths occasionally with so many planes in the sky. Te X patterns may look uniform, but air traffic control is precise and uniform.

I don't think the chemtrail believers are at all wrong when they see "patterns" in the sky, but it is because of a control system that this is the case.

2nd photo-
Well, "trails" are everywhere there is highlevel aircraft Con_Man, not at all time, It makes sense they would be above an airport, many airports have VORs that are part of the highway in the sky.

posted 04-27-2003 05:54 AM            

Propulsion Type: Allison T56-A15 Turboprop

External Dimensions.
Wing span
132.6 ft / 40.41 m

Wing aspect ratio
10.1

Length overall
97.75 ft / 29.79 m

Height overall
38.8 ft / 11.84 m

Tailplane span
52.7 ft / 16.05 m

Wheel track
14.25 ft / 4.34 m

Propeller diameter
13.5 ft / 4.11 m

Wing area (gross)
1,745 ft2/ 162.12 m2