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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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United States
495 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-25-2003 01:00 AM            

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Nobody has denied the government sprays bugs.

Look at the picture of the (I think) C-130 spraying chemicals, does that look anything like what you normally identify with chemtrails? What is normally attributive to chemtrails on this site are large extreme altitude white trails, it seems. That aircraft is flying very low and spraying a small stream of chemicals.

I'm sure if you got in the direct path of the chemicals and breathed in, it would not be very healthy at all for you- insectisides are poison, so steer clear if you can! I can imagine being sick if you are in direct contact with the trails listed in this thread because of that.

I am still a bit skeptical about chemtrails making people sick though, how can you be near them? They are 30 thousand feet up

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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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United States
495 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-25-2003 01:19 AM            

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Hey, theres no doubt if you got rained on by those pestisides it wouldn't be too healthy for you! They don't often spray heavy residential areas I'm sure, mostly farms/etc. I remember back a bunch of years ago there was a horrible gypsy moth outbreak around here, they posted warnings that sprayings were going to be happening and expained information about what they will be doing/do not come in contact/etc.

Trust me- If you have gypsy moth infestations, you'll welcome all the chemicals they can drop.

That C130 pic is interesting? Do you know what its spraying? It looks almost like a fire or something but I can't tell if that is smoke or clouds below it. Still looks cool.

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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 04:19 PM            

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A concerned reader of CC recently E-mailed me with the reason for the trails the C-130 was producing.

Here is the E-mail:

The C-130 pic has been abused for years by chemmies as "proof" of spraying. You'll find an explanation at my site in the photo gallery.
The trails are from smoke generators using corvus or canopus oil, regular airshow smoke.
The study is here:
http://techreports.larc.nasa.gov/ltrs/PDF/1997/tp/NASA-97-tp3671.pdf

North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 07:06 PM            

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We'll, Im sure that we're all glad you decided to tell us that, Jeanie.

So, do you have a response to the study that I posted?

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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 08:39 PM            

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I like how you read absolutely none of the study CONSPIRACY_MAN.

It was a study done by NASA to determine if the wake turbulance caused by aircraft intereferes with equipment. It didnt say it was at an airshow. It only said they used the same type of oil to create the smoke as they do at airshows. They used the smoke to outline where the wake vortex was located as it left the aircraft.

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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:37 PM            

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Fair enough.

Anyway, I think we have finally figured out what is going on in that C-130 photo after all these years.

Senior Member

United States
495 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:43 PM            

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Besides the fact PHX, Thats probably what it would look like if were spraying chemicals, not big billowing white trails.

I think that is a point I've seen you debunkers make 1000 times while being completely ignored.

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:49 PM            

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Exactly

Contrails often identified as "chemtrails": http://www.airliners.net/open.file/332946/L/
and http://www.airliners.net/open.file/239080/L/

How chemtrails would actually look: http://home.earthlink.net/~byronsworld/C130Formation.jpg

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United States
212 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-25-2003 10:52 PM            

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"One would have to be half witted, retarded, in denial, or dead not to know what's going on......"

Just curious, which one are you Jeanie

Negro with an Attitude

Tallahassee, FL
88 posts, Mar 2003

posted 04-26-2003 12:16 AM            

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not to mention, those are low altitude clouds...those herks are probably no more than 5-10,000 feet.

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Palm Springs,CA
39 posts, May 2002

North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 04-26-2003 09:35 AM            

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***Proud Veteran***Long as you encouraged a comment from me I'll let you have one of my last posts on this forum. You are an absolute disgrace to America. You either don't see, (are stupid) or don't care about lies and corruption in the management of this could be great country. The stupids bring thousands of immigrants into this country and subsdise them while at the same time laying off and eliminating thousands of
job's. www.dispatch.com/news/news01/mar01/629066.ht BS to this article but it supports my point. Our land is fouled, our water is fouled, our breathing space is fouled big time. I used to wonder why the govt. didn't support the farmers, I now understand why and oh yea how about genetically engineered food, and immoral, inhumane experimentation of helpless animals to further their own selfish ends. While we are at it the ridiculous packaging of multi foods totally devoid of nutrition. The media is controlled, the entertainment is disgustingly immoral, our education stinks and textbooks are filled with distortions. The medical profession as regards caring for individuals health is a farce. I live my life based on a golden rule. "Do to others as you would have them do to you" My brother saw active service and luckily survived. The man I loved was killed in one of America's nonsense war's ending his life at 21 and forever changing mine. I could do a much better job managing this country blindfolded and with one arm behind my back, not because I'm so smart but because applying the laws and principals of the bible is what works for the betterment of life for all people. Just in case you don't know it, the day's of the devils henchmen are numbered, ***Look up Proverbs 2:21,22... Put all that in your pipe and smoke it and if if you don't liKE to hear the truth. LUMP IT.

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 10:26 AM            

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except for the FACT that they physically deviate the blueprint of CONDENSATION TRAILS(please PHX GUY I beg you not to ask for evidence

Why dont you want me to ask for proof that contrails arent supposed to act this way? Is that because there is no evidence supporting it?

Why do you want chemtrails to exist? Now, I know you are going to get all defensive now and start screaming that you dont want them to exist, blah, blah, blah, but the truth is that you (and by you I mean many chemtrail believers) go out of your way to ignore basic laws of the universe. You ignore everything that says these are normal contrails. You dont want to hear they are normal. You want to hear that they are chemicals.

If I lived my life thinking I was being poisoned every time I saw a contrail, I would take EVERY piece of evidence and come to a conclusion. Because I WOULDNT want them to exist. I would hope they were only in my mind, and that someone could tell me they are normal. But you do exactly the opposite. You want them to exist.

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Phoenix, AZ, USA
800 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 10:31 AM            

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Charging over the mountain sometimes in dangerously close duos(quite imppresive flying so perfectly formed,such fast speeds,such collosal white trains they don beehind them-the duets are truely my favorite pictures ,I want so much to share.

Like these?: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/289105/L/
and http://www.airliners.net/open.file/287638/L/

Im sure you dont want to hear this, but this is NORMAL. NORMAL. NORMAL.

Im sorry that aircraft dont have a 50 mile seperation regulation, but this is how they fly, and thats how they are going to fly, regardless if you think they are spraying chemicals or not.

United States
212 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-26-2003 01:51 PM            

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Sorry to hear of your loss Jeanie.

It's hard losing someone but if your man was lost in the Vietnam war, then I think it's time for you to get on with your life and cherish the memories.

As far as hearing the truth, I have yet to see any truth that the government is behind these so called chemtrails.

As far as putting something in a pipe and smoking it, I quit smoking pot quite a while ago and grew up, and got on with my life.

"Live for today, for tomorrow is not promised"

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Western New York
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