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Sore Throat
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posted 04-27-2003 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For all those with their head in the sand (or up other body orifices), who live in a perpetual state of denial that their own government would covertly, secretly, spray the atmosphere with harmful substances.
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http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?s=1250476

Earlier this year news that the army would conduct bio-terrorism tests in central Oklahoma sent a near panic through some communities.

Clouds of clay dust and other substances were dropped to see if weather radar could detect a bio-terrorist attack. The army was up front and told those concerned what they were doing and promised there was nothing to worry about.

But it hasn't always been that way when the army was testing the atmosphere.

Oklahoma City and a local solider endured a secret exposure.

It was in the 1950s and America was in the height of the Cold War.

The United States and the Soviet Union were locked in a deadly race to produce the most powerful nuclear bombs. A cartoon turtle taught the children what to do in case the Soviets attacked.

Air raid drills were staged in every classroom and city across America. Little did Americans know they were already under attack -- by America.

"The human populations didn't know, the local governments didn't know, this was a secret army project that went on for 20 years," said author Leonard Cole.

The U.S. government was preparing for germ warfare by secretly spraying biological agents on its own citizens. The tests were conducted in 239 cities, including one of Oklahoma's most prominent communities.

"Among the hundreds and hundreds of tests that the army did, Stillwater, Oklahoma was targeted," said Cole, an expert on the Army's development of biological weapons. In some cities reports indicate Americans actually died because of the testing.

Government records show florescent particles of zinc cadmium sulfide were released in Stillwater in 1962.

"Cadmium itself is known to be one of the most highly toxic materials in small amounts that a human can be exposed to," Cole said.

Could Oklahomans have been made sick by that all those years ago could they still have lingering effects from it?

"If there were concentrations of it enough to make one sick, you could have serious consequences a person over a period of time could have illnesses that could range from cancer to organ failures," Cole said.

There was no medical monitoring of the population exposed to the particles and Payne County health officials have no records to show the affect, if any, on the people in the Stillwater area.

But different secret exposure tests would forever change the lives of other 0klahomans.

Arnold Parks of Oklahoma City loves to work in his yard. But he does it on painful legs and with aching arms, not to mention a bad heart. In 1965 Arnold was in the army when he was told he was going to be a test subject for some new medications.

But when he recently was given access to his medical records from 1965 he was stunned to learn those "medications" were anything but.

"And it states right in there on this date they gave me VX, on this date they gave me Sarin, on this date they gave me LSD," Parks said. "I was angry. As a matter of fact, I came unglued."

It hasn't been medically linked yet, but Parks now believes the small doses of the nerve agents Sarin and VX have affected his arms, legs and heart over the years.

"The VX they gave, it was a pill. And I asked the guy after I took that, you know, I asked him what was that? He said, 'Thats the new pill for polio.' "

And what Parks wrote down as terrible dreams during those two months of testing he now knows were hallucinations brought on by the LSD. Some of those hallucinations involved murder.

"Some of these hallucinations got a little bit scary," he said. "I think I had about four and the only one that was OK was the one that I watched this movie, it was a love story on TV. But there was no TV in the room, so I couldn't have watched that movie on TV. So it was all an acid trip, basically it was a trip but the other three was the killing things."

Parks believes after more than 35 years it's time the army made good for what they did to him. But, he's resigned to the fact that some things won't change.

"Pay me compensation," he said. "I want that and I would like to be treated. But I don't think they can treat this."

A spokesperson for the Veteran's Administration said once there is a medical link confirming the testing is to blame for Park's ailments, then he has a case. But, they say, not until then.

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-27-2003 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For all those with their head in the sand (or up other body orifices), who live in a perpetual state of denial that their own government would covertly, secretly, spray the atmosphere with harmful substances.

Man, Just because we dont believe in chemtrails, doesnt mean we believe that the government is a heavenly body, that can do no wrong.

Again, using my analogy I used in a previous thread:

A scientist says that since water is wet, water must cause cancer. When someone says that water doesnt cause cancer, the scientist says that "Oh, you must be one of those people who doesnt believe water is wet, huh?"

See whats wrong with that? One opinion (government is evil) is NO BASIS for believing in a theory (Chemtrails)

It is a HORRIBLE way of determining things.

"Oh, our government is evil, so chemtrails MUST exist!". Bah, give me a break.

I may think my neighbor doesnt like me, but that is no basis for believing he is trying to burn my house down.

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Sore Throat
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posted 04-27-2003 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not bad, PHXPilot.

19 minute response, including the time it took you to type out your cogent reply.

I'm in TOTAL agreement with you. Such disclosures in not way PROVE the point of present day ChemTrails.

What it DOES PROVE is that our government is willing to conduct such programs in secret that can cause significant harm to it's own popultion.

And it is for that reason that we have a perfectly good reason to be concerned and skeptical of their denials.

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posted 04-27-2003 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What it DOES PROVE is that our government is willing to conduct such programs in secret that can cause significant harm to it's own popultion.

And it is for that reason that we have a perfectly good reason to be concerned and skeptical of their denials.

And I am in total agreement with you there.

But many people seem to believe in chemtrails soley because they think the government is evil. Im just saying that you should believe in somthing PURELY because the evidence supports it. Not because of an opinion or completely unrealted facts.

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Sore Throat
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posted 04-27-2003 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might point out PHXPilot, that secretly spraying zinc cadmium sulfide into the atmosphere that innocent people were forced to breathe is hardly "unrelated" to the concern over ChemTrails.

Perhaps you could explain your "logic" of just how such events are totally "unrelated".

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PHXPilot
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posted 04-27-2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHXPilot   Visit PHXPilot's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats not quite what I was getting at.

In my mind the unrelated opinion is that "the government is evil".

Chemtrails either exist or they dont. Whether someone thinks the government is evil or not does not change the overriding fact of whether they exist or not.

If you suddenly change your mind and believe that the government is evil, it does not suddenly make chemtrails exist.

That is what I meant by "unrelated".

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Sore Throat
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posted 04-27-2003 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intesresting PHXPilot, that you are the first one to bring the term "evil" into this discussion to describe our government.

Very interesting.

But since you have brought us there, in YOUR value system, are you saying that intentionally exposing innocent, unsuspecting US citizens to harmful substances, is NOT an "evil" act?

How would you characterize this FACT?

"Collateral damage"?

No different than the dioxin in Agent Orange or the depleted uranium used in our munitions (in breach of international law)?

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the professor
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posted 04-28-2003 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah that agent orange is a bitch.

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