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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-02-2003 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I took this photo yesterday
Location: (5 miles south of), Yreka CA United States of America
Date: 05/01/2003
Note: Taken about 11 AM PST. This photo shows the sun corona (upper left) and a black line next to the freshly laid white line. It cannot be a shadow, because it is on the sun side of the white line. I have seen these lines extend miles in front of the airplane, so that rules out the theory of the black line being a tunnel the plane made by passing through the haze. I have seen these lines in positions that do not seem to be on the shadow side away from the sun. I have seen them "instantly project" in front of a spray plane like a black beam was just turned on.
Very Puzzeling
Here is another one from last fall

Location: Mount Shasta (just south of), CA United States of America
Date: early 11/2002
Note: A black line extends down to the ground in front of a small chemtrail. There was an actual dark spot on the ground where it hit the ground.


I also remember that in the top photo the black line was at first very near the white trail, but moved off to the left (east) as time went by. I do not know what the wind direction was at that time, it did not seem to be windy at all.



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Lulu
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posted 05-02-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating mark, given the position of the sun!

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Lulu
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posted 05-02-2003 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible that some shadows can be caused by light reflecting off the earth and back upon the cirrus deck? Canex? FK?

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-02-2003 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and here i thought i was getting too much aluminum
seems others got even more
its only "fair" after all...


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bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-02-2003 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

sars away ?

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-02-2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
away(sweat pig bullits)

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
X secretary of alluminum power

doing we;ll while all around
we is doing swell
oh niel?

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-03-2003 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if I mentioned it here or elsewhere (or at all) but about, oh, a month ago I observed a CT and and a tracer. The wind caught the CT and pushed it to the other side of the tracer... the tracer never moved. If it was a shadow, it should have moved along with the CT...

I also observed a tracer 'appear' several minutes before the CT. I was wearing polarized sunglasses at the time, and without them the tracer appeared much fainter. Anyway, I grabbed my buuddy and told him in a few minutes a jet would appear and lay down a trail to where I was pointing. Sure enough, it came along in about five minutes. This was at almost exactly 12 noon.

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Chem11
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1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-03-2003 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS - Soliciting the Flat Earth Society's comments and then posting them here kinda defeats the purpose and new direction of this board, IMHO.

Nice work, Mark.

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bigjoe
Weather Observer

Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 05-03-2003 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've noticed this same phenomenon here in the northeast on a number of occasions too. Never really gave it much thought until now that you've pointed it out, Mark, always thought that they were nothing more than shadows. But now that you mention it... think I'll look just a little bit closer next time.

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bigjoe
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Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 05-03-2003 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. Thanks for sharing this information, Mark. Very, very interesting.

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 05-03-2003 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What good is it, may I ask, to have a restricted area only to have Lulu drag over debunkers comments from some other area?

Solution: Debunkers and Lulu open their own web site...There we go----everybodys happy...

Lulu says""""This was Thermit's call in an effort to please the activists. It is his website to do with as he pleases. Can you respect that?""""

The above was quoted from FREEFORM under New Forum, This is in regards to an area set up restricting debunkers. Obviously Lulu you don't respect it either. Seems to me you like to play both sides of the fence. debunkee speaks with forked tongue.





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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this one seems to be a crack in the haze,
I am looking for "black line" pictures in the database
I don't mind the debunkers comments being brought over here by LULU
as long as they are on the other side of the firewall
I like to see how they precieve the shadow
i found it quite opposite of what i precieved
but i am not afraid of preception
if anyone here has a good "black line" photo, please post it here
also if you have had the chance to observe one
even without a picture, please tell us what you saw
Thanks ms

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
these are not black, but rather interesting none the less, KnewEyes shot

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Black Line by Rick Moors November 2000

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These August 2001 by Valerie Hughs
appear to be shadow gov't at work?
not on topik but right around the corner...


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any "almost" 4 year old can see http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1067&action=searchdbdisplay
not black line but worthy of it

also Fred in Merced

also odd
but also not black line
You notice how the sky must be "milkie" to provide a black line?

Tyhe light shall win rides


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This in from Gary

and "billder"


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this from Dan Rockwell

one from here circa 1999
no black line~ just "pretty"


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This from msswv123 1/01
awesome shot~ and still "alive" ?

oh yes its all normal and you just have to be in the right location to ex plane it
got the picture yet?
Fred from Merced again photos the fracture
of the normal sky
it just depends where you stand
and what "light" you are with

from Tintdude


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-03-2003 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a good rip by "billder" here

can't leave it alone anymore
you all understand?
think it is under iraq? (a rock)
just look up and be aware
at the mess above...
from 11-11-00 DJ look out



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eyesopen
This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2003 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I photgraphed the black line here a while back. I adjusted the contrast to make it show a little better. It wasn't there at first and really appeared to be coming right out of the front of the craft. It looked turned on - I saw the whole thing. I have seen this frontal beam thing once more and it appeared to be from the front of the jet and not a shadow. Both times, including this photo, other jets flew next to the "dark line" jet and they did not have any shadow effect...

untouched photo:

The trail in the middle is from the jet with dark line (beam?) shown here:

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-17-2003 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this just came in from Bob
"Hello Mark, I haven't been here in awhile and don't have permission yet to reply to your thread but I did see something you might be interested in. I have seen my share of black beams in the sky and never had any idea what they were until the war started. Within the first couple of days of the war I was browsing through the news channels for my daily dose of propaganda and believe it or not, cnn showed a clip of a patriot missile test. It showed a ground to air missile flying through the air and the cameras panned out to reveal the classic black beam crossing the sky. Just as the missile intersected the beam a patriot came down and obliterated it. Then the beam just went off. I watched the loop to see if I could catch it again put they didn't replay it. cnn never replays anything of value. Hope this helps. "

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posted 05-17-2003 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark Sky please tell "Bob" that he has access to this main forum now.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-20-2003 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that would be here
"This posting is in response to a previous posting made a couple of weeks ago requesting any new sightings of "tracers" to be posted. I do not have a digital camera, so the best I can do is describe what I saw:
The sighting occured this morning over Rochester, N.Y. at 7:50 a.m. eastern time. There is obviously a major spraying operation going on above right now and it looks like they are going for total whiteout conditions. The sky is an absolute mess. The "tracer" and it's chemtrail counterpart went from southeast to northwest, and upon close examination, this was definately NOT a shadow, as the sky was full of chemtrails under chemtrails/chemclouds, and this was the only one with a tracer. Also, as the chemtrail started to spread out and become "zig-zag" in certain places, the tracer remained perfectly straight, showing no relationship to the chemtrail above it. And finally, even though this was in the morning, the sun seemed to be at the wrong angle to cast such a shadow either from underneath the chemcloud or from above it. Also of note were two large "X"'s. One was created almost directly above downtown Rochester. There's no doubt that this was a deliberate X because the sprayers had been turned on and off, on both pieces of the X at just the right place to prevent any confusion that this might be two overlapping trails. It was a PERFECT X. The other "X" was to the southeast, but one of the jets had not turned off it's sprayer, so I'm not 100% sure about this one. And overall, they've made a total mess of the sky, both yesterday afternoon, and this morning also."
welcome BigJoe

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