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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2003 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extremely heavy aerosol activity over the Tampa Bay area yesterday (5/6/03) provided me the opportunity to do a little research on radar returns created by these trails.

Some photos taken by Garfla of yesterday's mockery of nature:
http://community-2.webtv.net/tampagar/TAMPABAYTRAILS/index.html

Keep in mind that regular contrails do not create any radar signature. Nontheless:

Pointing to "birdie feet" on their scopes, the radar technicians showed Dickie particles appearing "as concentrations of dots" in the radar-tracked plumes."
http://www.willthomas.net/spraytankers.htm

Seeking to confirm or deny this phenomena I checked the NWS short base reflectivity returns at the time of the activity. There were no naturally ocurring cloud formations during this time period...

This certainly appears to be the same anomalous 'concentration of dots' that were reported by radar operators in Canada during CT activity.

The NASA contrail forecast showed negative for contrail formation, of course. This is at the recommended 225 mb level, but the forecast showed negative for any mb level in this area.

So, what we have here is a conflagration of anomlies stacked on top of each other:

1. Dozens upon dozens of persistant, dripping aerosol trails that bear aboslutely no similarity to normal contrails.

2. Said trails occuring under conditions that make even garden-variety contrail formation impossible.

3. Weather radar returning a signature "concentration of dots" that has been reported by operators in Canada during aerosol operations. This signature does not match a 'ground clutter' return in scope, configuration, or from what I can tell, intensity.

If anyone is interested in researching this curious phenomenon further, tapping in the zipcode for the target area here will provide you with a wealth of radar and satellite data:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/radinfo/radinfo.html#everything

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003

posted 05-07-2003 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those pictures on the first link
look very familar to the spray that milatary jets where laying down today.
it seems to turn into clouds.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 05-07-2003 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
an aware friend dropped by today
and we discussed what you just happen to have here
a fully bustable case to prosecute
and we discussed Poco Locos case as well
the evidence is overwhelming
"but the glove don't "wan't" to fit the hand"
seems to be the aluminum filled "brain"
althiemers manuver required?
gaz ont ietz

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Chem11
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1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2003 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To re-iterate: This signature does not match a 'ground clutter' return in scope, configuration, or from what I can tell, intensity.

1. Ground clutter typically appears as a disk-shaped pattern on radar, as evidenced by the following examples.

http://www.accuweather.com/iwxpage/paws/ex1.gif

http://www.mankato.msus.edu/weather/wx_WALTER/Modules/Radar/MPX_clearair_AP.gif

Furthermore, the National Weather Servive radar processors filter out ground clutter based upon their lack of movement and Doppler velocity (which is zero). While I doubt that any filtering system is 100% reliable, it should be noted that even commercial radar manufacturers promote 'clutter-free' radar sytems:
http://www.baronservices.com/html/the_radar_advantage.html

Of course, a single return isn't what I'm ultimately interested in. If these kinds of returns are the norm and not the exception during aerosol activity, than I think it would be safe to assume that there is something being added to the mix up there that is returning a radar signature that is getting by the ground clutter filters (probably because it isn't ground clutter).

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posted 05-08-2003 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heavy aerosol activity once again today in Tampa. Today's radar signature is definately not stationary and almost identical to the radar signature on 5/6/03:

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1883&action=searchdbdisplay


I'm not sure if the the following url is archived or will update in real time, but I wanted folks to see the loop in action. Ground clutter is, of course, stationary... meterologists will look at the loop to determine if the return is stationary ground clutter or something airborne.


http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.ktbw.shtml

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Chem11 on 05-08-2003]

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